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Yeah then it bricked my screen which made me brick my pants....


So I switched the iPad off and on then the website said oops looks like the installation crashed maybe if you try again...

Hmmmm I am smelling a great big dirty pile of..........
 
Are you guys updating to 4.0.1 first and then jailbreaking or are you staying on 4.0 and jailbreaking? I know it works either way but I'm trying to figure out if there's any compelling reason to do it one way vs. the other. I'm on 4.0 and wasn't planning to update to 4.0.1 before jailbreaking unless there's a good reason to do it.

In terms of jailbreakability, there's no difference AFAIK. You might as well update to the latest version before doing it, though.
 
please help. I posted this in another thread that I made but no one responded. I am having trouble saving the shsh blobs.

I have my iPhone4 plugged into itunes. I start Umbrella to save my blobs and "Save My SHSH" does not come up. I even did Advance Options and was able to get my ECID#, and the message that comes up is "Sorry - You must connect iPhone4 to obtain SHSH...". It's connected to iTunes. Any help would be great. I am pretty new to this.
 
I always notice people who defend piracy just seem to skip over the millions of people who don't pirate. But yeah, yeah, you're right. We'd all be hunky-dory. I agree.


I didn't put it there, but it seems that I have to state it: I do not download illegally. I have a large music and DVD collection (1000+), but since Napster and Kazaa got shut down almost a decade ago, I don't participate in anything illegal. Having said that, I don't even know where those old data CDs are now as most of my CDs since were purchased to have the music in higher bitrate/better quality, with the booklets/out of respect. In that sense, the record companies might feel that they lost thousands, but I wouldn't have spent thousands if I didn't have the chance to know so many artists then.

Anyway, my point was against the specific argument that if most people were OK with piracy, we'd be still living in caves. No, we wouldn't and there is good reason, why education is mostly state-controlled in most countries. Organised and widespread distribution of knowledge is beneficial to the economy. If it was down to short-term commercial considerations, companies would try to restrict almost all knowledge and development.

I'm not suggesting that everybody should use pirated software and listen to music where the artists and labels are not benefiting. But the industry should give up these poor arguments that our economy and civilisation would be over without protection on intellectual property. With this strategy, they will never win.
 
But I have a real moral dilemma with AT&T. Like the above posters pointed out, how is it moral for them to charge me (exorbitantly) to access my already-paid-for data on a second device? Can you imagine if Comcast charged you for every computer in your house that shared the Internet via wi-fi or hardwired connections? A riot would ensue. Yet AT&T is able to do exactly the same thing without major protest?

There should be a class-action lawsuit over the tethering issue. One, I can't tether an iPad even if I paid for a tethering plan. I have to buy a separate data plan for the iPad. And even if I could tether the iPad, AT&T wants almost as much as for a standalone data plan for the iPad anyway just for the privilege of accessing my already-paid-for data on a second device.

Criminal.

Before I begin, let me say that I agree with most of what you have said.

HOWEVER...

...the issue is that AT&T's data pricing structures are built around assumptions of a certain level of data use, and the fact that you can only reasonably use so much from a smartphone.

A tablet allows just a bit more...

A laptop or "full" computer allows even more...

If AT&T gave a price for all-you-can-eat wireless data that you could use via your smartphone on any device, I can guarantee you it would NOT cost $30/mo (or even the monthly rates of the current tiered structure).

It would more likely be at least double that, because it would be supporting hundreds of millions of dollars in network upgrades to handle the increased traffic.

Sure, there's a "because they can" and profit-motivation aspect to why AT&T charges more for tethering, or for each device. So let's just say regulators ordered AT&T to provide data for any/all devices, and "free" tethering to tablets and laptops. That won't happen, but let's just say it did -- the data plan would promptly jump to about $50/month or more.

There are very real backend costs to allowing more sophisticated devices to share the connection; that's because those more sophisticated devices are going to likely be using a lot more data.

Android 2.2 will begin allowing carriers to selectively disable the hotspot functionality on phones, and every US carrier is going to charging extra for hotspot/tethering functionality. (Yes, I know there are a handful of regional carriers and various historical plans/handsets/etc. that run counter to this, but generally speaking, official tethering/hotspot functionality, even if there are "other ways" you can do it, is generally $30/month more.)

Home broadband providers give you one pipe for many devices because they've build out infrastructure that supports it, and you're paying for it. They only worry about the 1-2% of their customers that are very massive data users. Well, that bar is MUCH lower for wireless carriers, and thus it's easy to restrict it by making tethering/hotspot functionality an additional cost, or recouping data fees from each device.

I know this isn't the answer people want to hear, but it's the truth.
 
I don't think AT&T is stealing from us.

.....

The 3G "pipe" is only so big. You want more bandwidth, you're gonna have to pay for it.

But you're not paying for more bandwidth when you tether. You're paying to access the exact same amount of bandwidth you've already paid for, but from a secondary device.

You don't think that's stealing?
 
There should be a class-action lawsuit over the tethering issue.

You think 3G bandwidth is unlimited?

iPhone users tend to use XGB/mo.
iPad users tend to use YGB/mo, where Y ~= 2X.
Notebook/desktop users tend to use a LOT more bandwidth, ZGB/mo, where Z >= 10Y.

Open up tethering, and there will be a LOT more demand on already strained 3G networks. You'll stop whining about tethering, and start whining about the crappy data rates, and the fact that AT&T starts shaping your traffic because your torrent server is crowding out a thousand other paying users. At that point you'll push for "network neutrality", and upon winning get hit with the unintended consequence of paying your fair share.

Face up: you win a class-action lawsuit over tethering and we'll get per-byte metering the next day. Thanks, twit.
 
If AT&T gave a price for all-you-can-eat wireless data that you could use via your smartphone on any device, I can guarantee you it would NOT cost $30/mo (or even the monthly rates of the current tiered structure).

Perhaps you didn't hear the news that AT&T is no longer selling unlimited data plans for the iPhone? So your data usage is now metered. You're paying for X amount of data. You should get to use that finite amount of data on as many devices as you'd like.

You think 3G bandwidth is unlimited?

Did I say that?

Face up: you win a class-action lawsuit over tethering and we'll get per-byte metering the next day. Thanks, twit.

Sorry "twit" (whatever that means), but iPhone data plans now give you per-byte metering already.

:rolleyes:
 
This worked on my iPhone 3G with 4.0.1.

No reboots or errors. Took about 10 minutes.
 
In terms of jailbreakability, there's no difference AFAIK. You might as well update to the latest version before doing it, though.

So upgrading to 4.0.1 has been determined as being completely safe for future jb and possible unlocks (no issues with baseband or anything like that)?
 
most of my CDs since were purchased to have the music in higher bitrate/better quality, with the booklets/out of respect. .

im not debating your post at all in terms of piracy...

but considering that artist make about $1.00 per CD (some more if they are more popular) i fell out of the "doing it for the artist" phase years ago.

your feeding the record companies with album sales.. not so much the band.
itunes is even worse, they make about $.03 per single.


Artist make their money from Touring and Endorsements.

unless the band that you are purchasing music from is physically producing their own cd's and selling them out of vans...

otherwize, the donation youre putting forth to the artist is pretty insignifigant compared to their main income.

if you want to support a band, go see them play, that one-time visit will make them more money than all of their albums you purchased combined.
 
But you're not paying for more bandwidth when you tether. You're paying to access the exact same amount of bandwidth you've already paid for, but from a secondary device.

You don't think that's stealing?

No, I don't - because there's an understanding that with one device you'll use a certain percentage of that bandwidth, and with multiple devices you'll use multiple times that percentage. You're not allocated a fixed fraction of that bandwidth, you're averaged into the expected typical usage with other users; you're sharing that pipe with an understanding you'll play well with others.

If you're using an iPhone, you'll only use so much of that available bandwidth. The device can only use so much, and you'll only use it within certain normal limits.
If you're using an iPad, you'll probably use more of that available bandwidth. Your usage will max out around several SD-resolution Netflix movies a month, a modest Pandora stream for a while, and a bunch of web pages. There's a predictable average & standard-deviation for your usage.
If you're using a tethered notebook, your usage will skyrocket. Considering the "I demand tethering" crowd, it's safe to assume a good percentage will be moving high-res videos, running torrent servers, high-demand games, and other big-bandwidth-hog applications.
Now roll all that together under the iPhone plan.
You're using a he11 of a lot more of that bandwidth than the mutual understanding accommodated.

The unintended consequence of your "dammit I want all my devices under one plan with no bandwidth limitation and no traffic shaping" will be AT&T replying "OK, here you go, use all you want under one bill - and we're charging you per-byte rates."

Do you REALLY want the "water meter" model?
Do you REALLY expect the end game will be any different?
 
This is great - thank you!

BTW, does anyone know how I can actually install apps like Games and Entertainment things? :S - a guide would be great.

click download.. it may ask for a cachpa...

confusing i know.
 
I pad issue with JB

I am trying to run jailbreakme.com on my iPad and it just resets no action whatsoever...just shutting off and back on. Only one cycle but I have tried multiple times with the same result...

Now trying on my iP4 and it appears to be going through... Has anyone done this on their iPad? did it work? did you do anything special?
 
im not debating your post at all in terms of piracy...

but considering that artist make about $1.00 per CD (some more if they are more popular) i fell out of the "doing it for the artist" phase years ago.

your feeding the record companies with album sales.. not so much the band.
itunes is even worse, they make about $.03 per single.


Artist make their money from Touring and Endorsements.

unless the band that you are purchasing music from is physically producing their own cd's and selling them out of vans...

otherwize, the donation youre putting forth to the artist is pretty insignifigant compared to their main income.

if you want to support a band, go see them play, that one-time visit will make them more money than all of their albums you purchased combined.

Pls keep it on thread about JB and not piracy. Its dull. Its bad. Pls dont do it for sake of all the hardworking developers on here.
 
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