Ohmac - Strictly for customers

[CD3660]

oh geesh, look with your eyes, two people above have confirmed emails from ohmac saying they wont be getting anymore iphone stock in, why are you trying to drag it out?

OBVIOUSLY, ohmac has realized they can't do this anymore

Without a doubt you have a natural talent for irritating people. Perhaps you just don't realise it. I simply asked a question to clarify an obvious ambiguity in Ohmac's emails to customers (no doubt caused by the fact that Phil's first language is not English) but you, in typical fashion, attempt to sneer and pick a fight.

Single-handedly you have already caused the moderators to close down one long-running thread and it appears to me that you have come here to cause more trouble.

You really do not fit in with the spirit of MacRumors as I understand it and it would not surprise me if there were many people who would be glad to see the back of you.

I was one of the greatest critics of Ohmac and I am still very cynical about their source of supply, but you fail to see that! Sadly your relentless desire to grind your axe is breathtakingly ignorant and makes you fail to see the wood for the trees.

Why don't you try being pleasant and reasonable for a change?

 

[bigscotal]

ishopukisfake, this thread was supposedly created for Ohmac customers, and as far as I can tell by your continuing comments, you are certainly not in that category. As was said in the previous thread (now locked), you have had your say, why can't you just leave it at that and move along?

And before you say CD3660 is not an Ohmac customer either, in which you would be entirely justified in saying, at least he is trying to contribute positively to the thread.

To be honest, if things continue as they are, this thread is simply going to descend into another farce which is useful to nobody whatsoever.

 

[dundeecake]

*Sigh*

Here we go again. A angry person who got scammed by a website that could have been called, "Give me your money , you dumb ****".co.uk is trolling again and indirectly calling the people who got an iphone like myself a liar, since he/she/it will not believe me.

I do not care anymore! I got my Iphone from Ohmac and i am sure so did other people who do not come to this board everyday.

Please people, lets go back to the topic.

 

[ishopukisfake]

ishopukisfake, this thread was supposedly created for Ohmac customers, and as far as I can tell by your continuing comments, you are certainly not in that category. As was said in the previous thread (now locked), you have had your say, why can't you just leave it at that and move along?

And before you say CD3660 is not an Ohmac customer either, in which you would be entirely justified in saying, at least he is trying to contribute positively to the thread.

To be honest, if things continue as they are, this thread is simply going to descend into another farce which is useful to nobody whatsoever.

We have come to the conclusion with ohmac, and have had the confirmation that if they did send out any as some claim, they have arrived, and they will no longer be shipping anymore.

If I am abused and attacked by someone on a thread, such as by CD, I may choose to defend my self especially if it is in the face of such glaring pompous hypocrisy.

I have never came onto a thread looking for a fight, but merely to contribute to the thread topic, some others have then attempted to pick fights and spew personal attacks which were totally unprovoked.

Maybe you don't like my posts because they are speaking the simple truth about ohmac, the fact that it is not legit and you could be in the posession of stolen goods which could later be traced.

Bringing this reality to peoples attention is of far greater positive contribution, than someone posting snide sadistic comments and only interested in viewing the thread as some sort of game.

And you must be blind if you think CD's and others posts to me have been in any way positive, they have been utterly malicious and without cause.

The ohmac story is at an end now - we know they won't be attempting to sell any more from the e-mails saying no new stock, and the termination of paypal use, its pretty obvious.

If you have got one from them I am only warning you of the implications, that they could be dangerous to have (probably why someone supposedly sold one straight onto ebay)

If you haven't receive I have ony advised you get a refund as soon as possible.

And also advised anyone considering buying from ohmac not to now, considering the warning signs or dodgy source, no secure payment anymore, and ridiculous waiting times (if true at all)

Why there has been so much abuse and anger at these simple realities is amazing. And that type of abusive conduct is not acceptable on any type of communication forum / community.

 

[ishopukisfake]

*Sigh*

Here we go again. A angry person who got scammed by a website that could have been called, "Give me your money , you dumb ****".co.uk is trolling again and indirectly calling the people who got an iphone like myself a liar, since he/she/it will not believe me.

I do not care anymore! I got my Iphone from Ohmac and i am sure so did other people who do not come to this board everyday.

Please people, lets go back to the topic.

Indirectly calling people a dumb **** is even lower than your objection.
I am not at all motivated by my experience, I am simply posting a view about ohmac, and how people can be so glaringly blind to the danger of their obviously illegitimate source.

It doesn't matter if your an abusive ohmac stooge or if you actually did get a phone from them anyway, ohmac's selling days of the iphone are over.

 

[dundeecake]

Indirectly calling people a dumb **** is even lower than your objection.
I am not at all motivated by my experience, I am simply posting a view about ohmac, and how people can be so glaringly blind to the danger of their obviously illegitimate source.

It doesn't matter if your an abusive ohmac stooge or if you actually did get a phone from them anyway, ohmac's selling days of the iphone are over.

Dude, do you even have the slightest idea how incredibly annoying you are?

Btw: Indirectly calling someone is liar must be ok by your logic.....interesting. I was not calling you a dumb ****, but this website you got scammed by screamed scam all the way! Its 2008!!!

Since you are just posting your precious view, on Ohmac this thread is clearly not for you. Thanks for understanding!

 

[ishopukisfake]

Dude, do you even have the slightest idea how incredibly annoying you are?

Btw: Indirectly calling someone is liar must be ok by your logic.....interesting. I was not calling you a dumb ****, but this website you got scammed by screamed scam all the way! Its 2008!!!

Since you are just posting your precious view, on Ohmac this thread is clearly not for you. Thanks for understanding!

You are pretty annoying yourself - there has been every reason to be suspicious about ohmac and you would know that if you had been following the threads, so being suspicious of people recieving from them is not a surprize. I didnt call you a liar, there is just no way to prove you are genuine, you could be from ohmac.

Regardless - the ohmac saga is now over, they arnt selling anymore iphones and have stopped using paypal and credit cards to sell, which should give you a hint

 

[appledrone]

and all this coming from someone who preaches about buying knock off phones that got scammed trying to buy one himself - priceless

 

[bluenoise]

Yes its easy when you don't have one

I have nothing to do with any of this, but I can't help but comment on your style. I find it pretty abrasive and confrontational, even when you weren't actually attacked. It seems you've made your points, but now you just won't let it go. If it all ends up being a scam, let people get scammed. They've been warned. If you must continue to go after the alleged scammers, contact the authorities instead of blasting people on an enthusiasts' forum.

 

[ishopukisfake]

and all this coming from someone who preaches about buying knock off phones that got scammed trying to buy one himself - priceless

I thought there was a possibility some of these sites could be importing iphones and selling them here legally without contract as handsets.
If I knew, what everyone knows now, that there is no way they could be imports at the price imports are selling for, I wouldn't have gone for one.

The reality is these have to be stolen iphones from somewhere along the line, they cant be imports. I wouldn't buy an iphone knowing it is from a dodgy source, and this is what I have been primarily trying to warn anyone who is coming onto this thread and considering buying an iphone from ohmac.

There is the high chance IF ohmac has shipped any phones out, their serials will be recorded by apple as lost or stolen and later disabled or investigated.
Its for that reason I wouldn't buy one unofficially and I am advising others not to

 

[ishopukisfake]

ohmac is not an official outlet of apple. It is a fact Apple have signed a contract with o2 in britain and are only legally allowing sales of the iphone 3G with a contract at this time. There are only 3 legal and official outlets for the iphone 3G, the apple store, the o2 store and the carphone warehouse store.

No reseller or shop is legally allowed to sell the 3G iphone yet, and certainly not without contract. So 100% what ohmac has been going is NOT Legit.
And most people who ordered knew that but were willing to take the risk, it seems there were also some naive like you who were not aware of this reality.

 

[Nicholas.C]

We have come to the conclusion with ohmac, and have had the confirmation that if they did send out any as some claim, they have arrived, and they will no longer be shipping anymore.

If I am abused and attacked by someone on a thread, such as by CD, I may choose to defend my self especially if it is in the face of such glaring pompous hypocrisy.

I have never came onto a thread looking for a fight, but merely to contribute to the thread topic, some others have then attempted to pick fights and spew personal attacks which were totally unprovoked.

Maybe you don't like my posts because they are speaking the simple truth about ohmac, the fact that it is not legit and you could be in the posession of stolen goods which could later be traced.

Bringing this reality to peoples attention is of far greater positive contribution, than someone posting snide sadistic comments and only interested in viewing the thread as some sort of game.

And you must be blind if you think CD's and others posts to me have been in any way positive, they have been utterly malicious and without cause.

The ohmac story is at an end now - we know they won't be attempting to sell any more from the e-mails saying no new stock, and the termination of paypal use, its pretty obvious.

If you have got one from them I am only warning you of the implications, that they could be dangerous to have (probably why someone supposedly sold one straight onto ebay)

If you haven't receive I have ony advised you get a refund as soon as possible.

And also advised anyone considering buying from ohmac not to now, considering the warning signs or dodgy source, no secure payment anymore, and ridiculous waiting times (if true at all)

Why there has been so much abuse and anger at these simple realities is amazing. And that type of abusive conduct is not acceptable on any type of communication forum / community.

From your post here I know you are young. I will ignore your cheap insult to tell you ohmac is not an official outlet of apple. It is a fact Apple have signed a contract with o2 in britain and are only legally allowing sales of the iphone 3G with a contract at this time. There are only 3 legal and official outlets for the iphone 3G, the apple store, the o2 store and the carphone warehouse store.

No reseller or shop is legally allowed to sell the 3G iphone yet, and certainly not without contract. So 100% what ohmac has been going is NOT Legit.
And most people who ordered knew that but were willing to take the risk, it seems there were also some naive like you who were not aware of this reality.

And you've never done anything illegal, yes mate, you are 100% perfect.

 

[ishopukisfake]

Without a doubt you have a natural talent for irritating people. Perhaps you just don't realise it. Or perhaps you don't realize it is you who determines whether an external thing is "irritating" or not. One day you might realize that your irritability and intolerance is not the fault of others external to your own mind I simply asked a question to clarify an obvious ambiguity in Ohmac's emails to customers You seem to be ignoring the blindingly obvious to give ohmac more time, hmm, its pretty blindingly obvious that he has said he wont be getting anymore stock in and all the signs including removal of legit meathods of payment and change of site advertising show the iphone selling game is up(no doubt caused by the fact that Phil's first language is not English) first name terms with someone you've never met? lol...interesting but you, in typical fashion, attempt to sneer and pick a fight. If you review the threads which we have both posted on with any honesty, you would have to admit it is you who has started judgments and hostilities, don't be surprised if eventually someone will respond to your demeaning and condescending put downs and abuse.

Single-handedly you have already caused the moderators to close down one long-running thread Again you seem to have a problem with attributing the source, I nor anyone can single handedly shut down a thread, unless there is agreement by a moderator that the collective conduct has degenerated, which you had a large part to play in, even if you absolve yourself from your insults and conductand it appears to me that you have come here to cause more trouble.Now you are trying to close down my post, which is equal to you on this as you are not an ohmac customer either. Questioning ohmacs legitimacy and warning people about this is hardly causing trouble, maybe for trouble makers. Maybe saying something true offends those who revel in falsehood

You really do not fit in with the spirit of MacRumors as I understand it and it would not surprise me if there were many people who would be glad to see the back of you. In my opinion you do not fit in with the spirit of macrumours either, al l you have done is post snide attacks at me which were unprovoked, but maybe thats what you mean, you like negative spirit. And there again you come out with a threat and an attempt to engender group bullying. I noticed at the end of my ohmac thread you also had to get the last word and tried very deviously and wickedly to accuse me and stoke things up with a moderator - this is the kind of wicked spirited conduct maybe you like

I was one of the greatest critics of Ohmac and I am still very cynical about their source of supply, but you fail to see that! maybe because you havent posted that nearly as much as you have focused on attacking me without provocationSadly your relentless desire to grind your axe is breathtakingly ignorant and makes you fail to see the wood for the trees.I'd say its far more ignorant to ignore issue of the thread ohmac, in favor of waging petty personal attacks

Why don't you try being pleasant and reasonable for a change?

LOL, you need to review your conduct and what you have posted at me - I have always been attempting to focus on the thread subject and not get embroiled in personal attacks, but now i have addressed you

 

[StoneColdSober]

I have realized that in essence what the ohmac threads have done is gather together a group of people who have attempted to go outside of the respectable official path. They have little respect for taking the upright path and doing things the correct way, and this could partially excuse and be a reason for the general degeneration and lack of any quality of conduct. In essence people who will disrespect the natural path and law will also be willing to direspect and tread upon others in their conduct. So part of the abrasive and abusive response to my questioning of ohmac's legitimacy doesn't surprise me, we are essentially dealing with a group of people lacking uprightness and patience and that shows very much also in many of the abusive responses. What is maybe more surprising are the couple CD and rigsby who have entered into the fray with equally abusive, snide and demeaning conduct, and yet have nothing invested in ohmac other that the sadastic thrill of watching others potentially fail to recieve iphones they already have. In a way I can excuse the reactionary, defensive and uncalled for insults from those embroiled in the underhand dealing with ohmac, because it goes hand in hand in a way. But it is more offensive and rude for those who are disconnected to vent their rage and abuse without any ohmac ties, it really just shows a deep negativity of character.

The mods just need to ban you as the hypocrisy streaming from your posts has just gone overboard. You yourself got scammed by trying, "to go outside of the respectable official path" to purchase an iPhone. Yet you now come to this forum to bash others for doing the same. Get over yourself.

 

[ishopukisfake]

The mods just need to ban you as the hypocrisy streaming from your posts has just gone overboard. You yourself got scammed by trying, "to go outside of the respectable official path" to purchase an iPhone. Yet you now come to this forum to bash others for doing the same. Get over yourself.

Try reading post 168 - I am not bashing anyone, that is an utter falsehood, it is others who are bashing me for simply questioning the legitimacy of ohmac's source.

I may well be trying to speak sense to a den of thieves and a brood of vipers - but maybe someone who is of decent character will be browsing the net and wondering about ohmac and be saved allot of hassle by at least one person warning them of it.

1) Ohmac now does not sell with a secur meathod, it has canelled its involvment with paypal and is unable to sell with credit cards. They are asking for direct payment via postal order or bank transfer - anyone who is wondering about ordering in this way, Don't you cant reverse the charges after the person has it cashed - this is the first sign your not dealing with a propery legitimate company.

2) Ohmac claims to be selling the iphone 3G without contract, just the handset alone. In the UK this is not legal for any outlet to be selling iphones officially. O2 have signed a contract with apple to have control of the phones sale, and o2 are only legally allowing the iphone to be sold just now at 3 reputable outlets,
1) o2 stores, 2) apple stores, 3)carphone warehouse stores. The source of ohmac's iphone is unknown, but can't be legit as selling without contract violates the agreement apple have made with o2. Importing handsets cheap from abroad is also ruled out, because the handsets are much more expensive than ohmac is selling them for. This means the only alternative is the phones are illegitimate and could either be blocked or traced by serial number later by o2 or apple when they are noticed missing. I don't think this is a wise risk to take.

3) ohmacs customers have been waiting over a month after official release, and only now claims by a few that they have arrived. This is also dubious, and the small supply is again evidence of illegitimate dealings. ohmac also has a poor delivery record with other orders according to their ebay record, so if you do order from them expect a long wait

This all adds up to a very shady and dodgy situation. If you are browsing the web wondering if ohmac are legit or not and whether to order the evidence suggests no. There is absolutely no way ohmac is an official apple outlet (as they try to infer by certain certificates on the site) and there is no way they would be legally allowed to sell the phones without contract.
So my recommendation is to buy legit - if you are waiting on pay as you go the rumor is they will be out in december anyway, not long.

I wish you all peace

 

[Nicholas.C]

The mods just need to ban you as the hypocrisy streaming from your posts has just gone overboard. You yourself got scammed by trying, "to go outside of the respectable official path" to purchase an iPhone. Yet you now come to this forum to bash others for doing the same. Get over yourself.

EXCALLY! His not such a good boy now!!

 

[StoneColdSober]

I must confess and chastise myself for I have committed the sin of feeding the troll.

All, please take heed and let us all cease responding to ishopukisfake.

Enough said!

 

[Consultant]

Doesn't Add Up - I'll put a dollar that it's a scam

Good job ishopukisfake, catching the lies (although I would try to be a bit less abrasive):

How come the same user posted: "money is being refunded" and then later posted "I am still waiting for mine"?

Due to huge demand, all iPhones we have in stock last week have been sold out. We don't foresee getting any new stock at the present time. Therefore, we are unable to full fill your order and we will issue a full refund for you shortly.

Should you have any further questions, please feel free to contact us.

Kind regards,

The Ohmac Sales Team
<snip>
Tel: +44 151 291 1727
Fax:+44 151 733 0522

Congrats Dundeecake!
I have told ohmac I am happy to wait so hopefully it won't take too long for mine to come into ohmacs hands and then on to me!

Why are we still slating Ohmac? They're delivering

No evidence. Some photo from newbies, that anyone anywhere could have made doesn't make it evidence.

 

[ishopukisfake]

This thread and the ohmac saga is over. Those who have claimed they have received, have received (very dodgy goods).
Those who haven't, are going to be refunded, ohmac no longer works with paypal or credit card, nothing is available on the site to buy.

Apple are apparently getting allot more strict now on unlocked iphones and so on, so I would be careful about having one not legit.

Anyway - these ohmac threads will now disapear into obscurity as we have the result - no more iphone sales from ohmac.

At least people will possibly be warned about trying to buy from them on a google

Good job ishopukisfake, catching the lies (although I would try to be a bit less abrasive):

lol your right, but its hard not to give some back when you've got a whole team attacking, but your right..

btw earlier in these threads there was another big give-away something was odd with some of these posters, there were a couple who claimed to recieve phones first, who would answer all questions, but refuse to say what date they ordered repeatedly. It wouldn't surprise me if allot of the most vehement insults have been coming from someone from "ohmac" trying to fend off and quash any criticism or questions. All very odd on the whole, and I would advise anyone to avoid ohmac and go the Legit way

 

[bambibom]

They say hey dont have any more phones coming.

Do you mean that you placed an order during the special pre-order promotion period?

If so, it looks like they don't want to supply any more iPhones at the special offer price, or are they cancelling later orders as well.

Can anyone clarify this?

 

[straff2002]

Hey chaps just to qualify my previous post. (Oh btw he who shall not be named is in timeout can that be made permanent please I thought we'd got rid of him for a few days but his crap is back!)
I sent three emails to ohmac asking if there was any update and that I didn't need my phone unlocking as I am on O2. I then got the email back saying that the stock was out and there was no new stock at the moment. I emailed them back and told them I have been waiting for 2 months so don't mind waiting longer. You have to give Phil his dues, he could have gone oh S*** and refunded everybody as soon as he knew the problems but he has sent them out when he can as and when he gets them.

The point of people who received them last week disappearing from this thread is tbh they don't care anymore! they have their phone! I wouldn't bother looking in this thread anymore if I had my 3G cause as far as I was concerned job done! so as much as certain people who shall not be named that we are a conspiracy all set up to nark him off cause he is now the most upstanding member (and should really try for gordon brown's job as he is taking such a f****** high road) and we are all baaaaaaaad people for not wanting to pay O2 a load of money! Me for one I'm off to NZ and I'm gonna have to pay off the last 3 months of my original contract so didn't want to extend that by 12 months
anyway toodlepip

G

 

[Nicholas.C]

It is here!

The phone was delivered today. I took some pictures. The phone works perfect with the Sim-x IV adapter.
Seems like Ohmac was legit after all....

Cheers,

What week was it made in?

 

[bigscotal]

@ dundeecake - can you give any further detail on the operation of the X-Sim IV?

ie. Which carrier are you using it with, and does it allow full 3G functionality?

Any problems with the signal getting dropped periodically?

 

[eggb]

any news on the x sim or whatever its called,the rebel sim card i baught does not work tried it a few times anybody else tried any other sim etc for unlocking o2 pay as u go works fine

 

[dundeecake]

What week was it made in?

Where can I look it up?

@bigscotal:

I am using the X-Sim IV Adapter on E-Plus which is of course, a German carrier. I think they belong to Orange or the Dutch KLM Group, not sure. As far as I can tell, it works fine with 3G. I did not experience any signal problems as well. But to be fair, I do not use 3G at all, so i have it turned off.

The only minor problem I have is, that I have to eject my sim card before i hook my phone up with itunes or else it says my sim card is locked and won´t let me upload any music etc.

Sometimes Itunes works with the sim, most of the time not, but this is just a minor flaw.