Ok people why the hate on apple laptop

[palpatine]

But that could be down to a physical addiction, right?

Coke raised a couple generations of children on massive ad campaigns trying to increase brand loyalty, and then one day it said the taste they had been touting wasn't so great after all, they were going to stop making it within a few days, and now they had a new flavor you were going to love.

They somehow assumed that customers were so loyal they'd go along with anything. I still wonder if coke didn't generate the whole controversy to get people to re-dedicate themselves to the classic coke. it was just too ludicrous.

I think the brand loyalty issue was different than what we see with apple. i don't think coke fans were foaming at the mouth in love with the product. they just didn't want to be jerked around.

I think people were probably more angry about the process (removing choice) than the actual product. It would be something like Apple deciding this week that Macbooks, iMacs, etc. would all be replaced by Apple branded Chromebooks. Lion was a codename for Chrome after all. Apple OS X would no longer be sold. Ever. No matter how much you like Chrome, you'd still be pretty ticked about the sudden change.

 

[henry2]

Here is the part that i did not get ..As i tried to explain to the gentlemen that i'm not a gamer or i'm person who is doing this on the laptop or that on the laptop .

I'm just a basic computer user in the end and when i leave work i not going to take work home with to do because of the nature of the work i do ..So i not allowed to bring the work home with me ..

So my computer useage is basic things and the only game's i'm going to play is some form of chess or card game on it and that about it ..


But the guy was type of nut and going on how apple has ruined the socalled market for Operating system out there because of there closed system and will not let anyone come into the group that use apple without complete testing to make sure it safe..

My friend and i got up from the table and walked away in the middle of his rant about apple and there products

 

[palpatine]

My friend and i got up from the table and walked away in the middle of his rant about apple and there products

Good idea. Nobody wins in a debate with a religious zealot. It's just tiresome.

 

[MrNomNoms]

someone told me that people think of people with apple laptop as a certain snob type person or others who thinks that apple use are elitest symbol's user's

As i explained to the gentlemen that i really only do the following thing's with my laptop

1-surf the web & check out websites i have bookmarked & buy online for product's & items that i like

2-use the Itunes account to keep my Ipad & Iphone updated as need

3-check my email account's

4-watch my tv shows online

5-keep my files saight in some area & some pet project's i have going on at the time..

I told him that i like how simple and easly to use Apple OS is to use and how it not a problematic for me as with window's platfrom was along with it just works alot better than window's ..

also i told i want the system to work when it has to and not have crash and other problems that came with the window's platfrom system

So why all the hate tolds apple laptop or product's

It's the old story, 'haters are gonna hate' - even if I politely say to a Windows user (after being asked why I prefer a Mac over a PC) their response is akin to as if I had just punched their mother. There are some Windows users out there, like me, who don't care what others run - they do their own thing and don't define their identity based on the OS being run but then there are some who turn their platform into a cornerstone of what makes them who they are.

For me having been an Amiga fan for years moving to Apple was a natural progression given that I was familiar with many aspects of the Mac UI already so in which case a movement to Windows would have resulted in me having to get used to a counter intuitive UI that made little sense to me.

 

[fattire357]

Yes, Apple users queue up outside stores on the day of release for a new product, but I think that says more about Apple's ability to generate hype and I'm sure Microsoft would love people to do the same for their products, but sadly they just don't seem to be able to generate the same buzz around their products.

They can't generate the same buzz because the trust factor isn't there. With Microsoft, PC's, Android, heck anything other than Apple you need to wait for a positive review before buying.

I honestly can't think of an Apple product in recent history that was a complete flop. I know the iPhone 4 generated controversy, but c'mon, who holds a phone that way? With Apple products it is okay to wait in line and buy it on the first day since they just work.

I got a Samsung Galaxy S phone when it first came out and was surprised that not only was GPS utterly broken (despite claims by the company otherwise), but that also it also might not get updated ever (eventually it did). That is really frustrating and the only way I will ever buy an Android phone again in the future is if I read many reviews on it before release. There is no way I'd wait in line for that on launch day!

Also, Windows Vista versus Windows 7. I think Windows 7 turned out okay but you know Windows Vista showed us you can't just upgrade to the latest version and trust everything will work okay.

With Apple products.... I don't have to read reviews... I can just show up and buy. I'll read that review anyways but it gives a peace of mind to know most products from a company turn out well.

 

[fat jez]

For me having been an Amiga fan for years moving to Apple was a natural progression given that I was familiar with many aspects of the Mac UI already so in which case a movement to Windows would have resulted in me having to get used to a counter intuitive UI that made little sense to me.

Interesting that you followed a similar route to me, although I was using Macs at school before getting an Amiga (cue nervous comments from my Father about whether I was sure I knew what I was doing with Workbench). But as somebody who was used to a logical file system, a Shell and a multi-tasking environment, OSX feels to me like what Workbench could have become has Commodore not messed up and gone bust.

I know the iPhone 4 generated controversy, but c'mon, who holds a phone that way?

Actually, I do hold it that way. If using it to browse, I hold it in my left hand and my thumb runs along the side of the phone, bridging that antenna gap. If using it as a phone, it requires a concious effort not to bridge the antenna gap again with my third finger. Don't get me started on the proximity sensor leading me to mute calls, hang up, etc. The iPhone 4S/5/Whatever is not something I will queue up to buy this time round, I'll wait and see whether it's an issue or not before parting with my hard earned.

But you're right about the other stuff, although problems I've had with dust under the screen of my 2009 Macbook Pro made me go for an AG model instead this time round. Apple's design and testing is generally first rate, I think their manufacturing process is letting them down somewhat at present.

 

[thejadedmonkey]

They can't generate the same buzz because the trust factor isn't there. With Microsoft, PC's, Android, heck anything other than Apple you need to wait for a positive review before buying.

I honestly can't think of an Apple product in recent history that was a complete flop. I know the iPhone 4 generated controversy, but c'mon, who holds a phone that way? With Apple products it is okay to wait in line and buy it on the first day since they just work.

I got a Samsung Galaxy S phone when it first came out and was surprised that not only was GPS utterly broken (despite claims by the company otherwise), but that also it also might not get updated ever (eventually it did). That is really frustrating and the only way I will ever buy an Android phone again in the future is if I read many reviews on it before release. There is no way I'd wait in line for that on launch day!

Also, Windows Vista versus Windows 7. I think Windows 7 turned out okay but you know Windows Vista showed us you can't just upgrade to the latest version and trust everything will work okay.

With Apple products.... I don't have to read reviews... I can just show up and buy. I'll read that review anyways but it gives a peace of mind to know most products from a company turn out well.

Like the above poster said, hater's gonna hate.

The Apple Hi-Fi was a disaster. The mobile me service is crap, as is the first generation of Time Capsule's that would die after a year. Apple devices most certainly do require reviews before purchasing. Did you forget about Antenna-gate?

Likewise, Vista was an amazing operating system, if you ran it on modern hardware and not low end crap. Heck, even Windows 8 generates a bunch of press, and so far all we've officially seen of it is a demo of the touch UI.

Begin a fanboy is fine, supporting an OS is fine, and there's nothing wrong with disliking a specific OS, or loving one, but being a blind fanboy for either side just seems silly.

 

[getz76]

Maybe because plenty of MacBook Pro users are doing things your average $400 notebook can handle with ease but somehow insist they need Mac OS X to do email and play farmville instead of just admitting it is a luxury purchase?

Most people do not need a $1,500 notebook computer, regardless of the brand.

 

[nunes013]

If one offered the choice between a Mac or Windoze laptop to a hater (for free), I wonder which they'd choose.

we actually did this is our dorm as a contest. we went around to each room and asked which would you prefer if it was free. Mac won 60% to 40%. The biggest reason why people said they didnt have one was because they couldnt afford it and they liked the design of the computer over that of a windows notebook.

we were really bored one day and thought it would be a good poll.

 

[MH01]

Sadly there is enough Apple users that act like Justin Long, from the Get a Mac ads, and frankly that level of smugness is annoying. Spend enough time on macrumours and you will realise there is alot of elitest fanboys on here that are so blind to anything that does not have an Apple logo (most have not used windows 7 and bitch about it). Its the smug elitest attitude of some owners that spoils it for us mac owners.

 

[Vudoo]

My MBP matches my Rolex and BMW.

But seriously, it's because Apple computers are expensive and a less expensive Wintel computer will meet the needs of the majority of the users. A Casio can tell time and a Hyundai will get me from point A to point B, but I don't have neither. Why? Because I prefer the looks and quality of my Rolex and BMW. That goes for the same for my MBP. I'm actually a Microsoft Certified Professional so I have no hate for Windows and I know how to use their products pretty well. I also don't think OS X is the greatest either. It's the form factor and quality that I like.

If people think you're snob, who cares as long as you don't act like one.

 

[jeremiah256]

Perception that Macs = Elitism

It's a continuation of the blue collar (the average joe, the good guy) vs white collar (elitist, the bad guy) battle. Even Apple has helped promoted this with their Mac vs PC commercials.

To bring my new favorite show into the analogy, Ned Stark and King Robert's clans would use PCs. It's those damn Lannisters and Targaryens that would use Macs!

 

[torbjoern]

Its not the Apple stuff I hate, I have owned many iPods, iPhone 2G,3G + iPhone 4. And an iPad.

Its the die-hard elitist fanboy, who drones on about how superior it is to Windows, and how the Aluminium is "sexy" (If you can describe a laptop like that, than you have problems)

And if you dare priase a rival product around them, or point out a flaw in an Apple product, they tend to fly off the handle.

I had to go through College and suffer a particularly elitist fanboy, who gives regular Apple users a bad name.

Such people are the reason I was so bashful about Apple products and their users for many years after my first traumatic experience with G3 iMac. When they can praise such junk (it was on that ****ed-up OS 9), how can I take them seriously on anything tech-related? OS X came out right after, but I didn't touch it for 7 years. It caught my interest when I knew about Terminal.app, though. It's one of the apps that I use the most.

 

[scoobydoo99]

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I think that's the point.. You only do menial tasks that a cheap laptop is more than capable of yet you have a 2000+ laptop.

Using iTunes or surfing the web or doing email without a crash or a million security pop-ups or some other windows nightmare is NOT menial!! It's what I pay for. I don't care if it's $2000 or $5000, I pay whatever i have to to have a premium experience. Yes, a Honda will get me from point A to point B just like my BMW, but it's the journey that counts

 

[dr Dunkel]

No other tech company does this to the extent that Apple does, and it drives some people (who don't use Apple products) nuts. It comes down to the basic psychology of envy. If someone else has something that you don't, your instinct is to try to bring them down to your level rather than raise yourself up to theirs. In this case those people can't force HP to make a better computer, Dell a better tablet, or Microsoft a better mobile OS. So they lash out at Apple for doing what "their brand" couldn't.

Or the other way around, Apple worshipers can't be convinced their saviour's products aren't the best there is, and in this regard, us Apple users tend to have the worst blinds ever on.

Yes, a Honda will get me from point A to point B just like my BMW, but it's the journey that counts

Thats why people who like options go for the BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Renault or Nissan (PC) and people who like expensive things with very few options and that just go and go, and go, will opt for the Lexus (Apple).

 

[s.hasan546]

because apple owners can be insufferable elitist and condescending fanatics. obviously, it's not everyone, but it's really annoying. they're probably taking out their frustration on you, and perhaps they also feel the need to ridicule you in order to justify their own purchase.

Agreed. Than again fan boys of all brands are pretty annoying. I personally just love all technology. I give credit where credit is due. I love my pc gaming rig and love my mbp 13". they both play their role.

 

[Nielsenius]

A greater number of Mac users than PC users take pride in their computer. That is why Apple customers are often perceived as snobs. It all comes down to people's priorities. Some people don't care about owning a top of the line computer. Others do care. If you've made owning a great computer a high priority in your life, then you'll obviously have some amount of pride in it. This is only a rationale for fanboy-ism, not a defense of it.

 

[dr Dunkel]

A greater number of Mac users than PC users take pride in their computer. That is why Apple customers are often perceived as snobs. It all comes down to people's priorities. Some people don't care about owning a top of the line computer. Others do care. If you've made owning a great computer a high priority in your life, then you'll obviously have some amount of pride in it. This is only a rationale for fanboy-ism, not a defense of it.

I think much of the problem lies in the fact that many people don't regard Macs as top-of-the-line computers in anything but price.

 

[johnnj]

I'm on my 8th BMW. I will continue buying them because I like them. When failures ranging from the windows detecting the roof as an obstruction to waiting for the flatbed because the thing is immobilized, I get aggravated.

I have 7 Leica cameras in my inventory. I will continue using and acquiring them because I like them. When they made dumb decisions or when I have to send a camera in for something that should have been caught in the factory I get annoyed.

I get my work shirts custom made at Brooks Brothers. I will continue to get them there because they're cheap, convenient, and have a nice selection of fabrics. When the factory screws up and it takes me 2-3 iterations per batch I get irritated.

I'm on my 3rd MBP, but I hate going to the Apple store because I am not compatible with the Apple way of life. I will continue to buy them as long as the configurations line up with my requirements. When they disappoint in their configuration changes or use flawed parts, I get well, disappointed. When the service depot botches something, I get angry.

Moral of the story is that you can be a dedicated to a brand, but not be blind to its shortcomings.

 

[OptyCT]

A greater number of Mac users than PC users take pride in their computer. That is why Apple customers are often perceived as snobs. It all comes down to people's priorities. Some people don't care about owning a top of the line computer. Others do care. If you've made owning a great computer a high priority in your life, then you'll obviously have some amount of pride in it. This is only a rationale for fanboy-ism, not a defense of it.

The major difference between Mac and Windows users is that the vast majority of current Mac owners/users have a lot of experience with Windows. Conversely, the vast majority of Windows users have no experience with Mac. Most people who spew venom about Mac are those that have never used one.

Some previous posts in this thread have brought up the issue of Macs being "expensive". Something being "expensive" and something "costing more" are not necessarily the same thing. The term "expensive" is a relative one. What's expensive for one person may not be expensive for someone else. Personally, I don't consider Macs "expensive" because I feel they are worth the money.

 

[jnpy!$4g3cwk]

So why all the hate tolds apple laptop or product's

Simple. Jealousy. Please, continue to enjoy your laptop despite the envy from your neighbors.

 

[fattire357]

Like the above poster said, hater's gonna hate.

The Apple Hi-Fi was a disaster. The mobile me service is crap, as is the first generation of Time Capsule's that would die after a year. Apple devices most certainly do require reviews before purchasing. Did you forget about Antenna-gate?

Likewise, Vista was an amazing operating system, if you ran it on modern hardware and not low end crap. Heck, even Windows 8 generates a bunch of press, and so far all we've officially seen of it is a demo of the touch UI.

Begin a fanboy is fine, supporting an OS is fine, and there's nothing wrong with disliking a specific OS, or loving one, but being a blind fanboy for either side just seems silly.

I knew somebody would come up with a few examples of Apple failures...

Anyways your list kinda proved my point nonetheless, with the exception of the iPhone 4, all those failures aren't something you would line up for.

Hence, it is easier to line up on launch day and not get burned.

 

[torbjoern]

No other tech company does this to the extent that Apple does, and it drives some people (who don't use Apple products) nuts. It comes down to the basic psychology of envy. If someone else has something that you don't, your instinct is to try to bring them down to your level rather than raise yourself up to theirs. In this case those people can't force HP to make a better computer, Dell a better tablet, or Microsoft a better mobile OS. So they lash out at Apple for doing what "their brand" couldn't.

At the time when I hated Apple products, I had only had bad experience with them. This was before I even knew how pricey they were compared to other comps of similar specs. How could it be caused by envy? If I had wanted one in the first place (at that time), I would at least have checked the price. Of course I got to know the price later when one of my friends mentioned it, and I just shook my head then as I found it absurd (they should be cheaper, not more expensive).

But I'm sure there is cognitive dissonance on both sides of the debates that actually go as far as turning into flame-wars. On the one side, you have the fox which can't reach the grapes and tells himself that the grapes are probably sour anyway. On the other, there are people who have difficulties to justify their expensive purchase (they just wanted it so much), and keep telling themselves that they bought a good computer.

 

[some-dude]

I'm a Mac. I'm a PC.

Cute commercials that totally pissed off an entire market segment and created the stigma of Mac users being trendy douchbags in the minds of people who've never actually met a real live Mac user before.

They were great commercials in that they definitely raised the Mac's profile in the marketplace... however I do wonder how many PC users they alienated in the process?

 

[GuitarG20]

Simple. Jealousy. Please, continue to enjoy your laptop despite the envy from your neighbors.

I think this may be really accurate... I remember back when I was using windows (i just got my mac not long ago) i would rip on people who had macs, but I just really wanted one.