OLED iPhone 8 Rumored to Ship Sometime After Standard iPhone 7s Models

[lionsy]

I keep wondering if they will introduce the X/8 at a later event/date.....

Absolutely impossible - They would never do that, announce the iPhone 7s, make 99% of their userbase (ie: people that don't go to websites like this) think that is their iPhone for the year and buy it, then three months later release the iPhone 8?

That's how you upset the majority of your customer base.

 

[RickInHouston]

I shouldn't make a comment. I can't think of a good comment, except for:

It is what it is.

 

[jkozlow3]

the note8 is actually impressive looking in person and after being on iphone since the 4 along with this style of OS even before that with the ipod touch, I am not entirely opposed to a breath of fresh air if the presentation this week is not attractive.

plus android has chompsms and iOS has been bereft of bitesms for years now while apple insists their skeleton messaging app is the best and shouldnt allow the user to replace it.

i could be convinced to jump ship for at least a year.

I'm in the same boat.. waiting until the 12th. If im not impressed, I'm jumping to the Note 8. A big screen, with some minor improvements wont be enough this time Apple...

However for the Note 8, the S-Pen is amazing to me.. The 'on the fly' note taking ability on the lock screen would be so useful for day to day stuff.

Some people prefer Android to iOS, but 80-90% of people I know who switched from iOS to Android switched back to iOS after 1-2 years.

 

[dilbert99]

No, you are looking at it wrong. The 8/X/Edition/Acme will be the new flagship model. The 7s/+ will become the new middle tier. It's simply a shift in the model lineup, nothing more. The 7s will get upgrades as s models normally do but there will be a higher level model that will have additional or enhanced features.

It similar to how once upon a time there was a 3 series BMW and an M3. Then BMW introduced the M Sport Pkg. which sat between a regular 3 series and the exclusive M3. BMW did do anything to change the 3 or M3 it just introduced a new pkg that offered addition "sporty" features over the base 3, but less than the M3.

With car makers, features tend to trickle down, so you get abs, cruise control etc on the top of the range models first until the tech gets cheaper.
This is phones we are talking about. Once a dual camera is available, it should be on the mainstream iPhone. The iPhone is an expensive phone as it is and deserves a dual camera.
Best case scenario, 7s gets dual camera or what ever feature a year after the 8
Worst case scenarion, the 7s never gets a dual camera and this is "kept" for the 8.
Which is bad because the cost of a dual camera isn't that much.

If you take Samsung I can see the point, strip out lots of tech and give people who don't care a $99 phone.
Apple will do the reverse, strip all the tech out of the 7s and put it all in the 8, keep the 7s the same price and shaft you for the 8.
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No, not really. To quote the great Sly and The Family Stone it's "different strokes for different folks". You want TouchID? there's two brand new models for you. Like the look of that OLED?, well there's a model for you too. The problem is people feel they have a right to have everything under the sun in one model; not ever going to happen again. This September Apple will sell six models: 7, 7+, 7s, 7s+, 8 & SE. Take your pick.

No not really. The iPhone is a premium phone and needs premium features.
I want oled and dual camera with ois in my premium phone that I pay a premium price for and I don't want it to be the size of a house. I don't want to be shafted by Apple.

Look at it another way at the extreme to make a point.
Say the 7s is $750 USD and they make the 8 $2000, extreme I know, but will you be pissed off?

 

[mmm1345]

So is Apple going to remove or not add features from the less expensive models so that the expensive model is more appealing?
Like having OIS on the 6+ but not on the 6.

I always saw the iPhone as the best you could buy. Now they bring out the OLED 8 and the model 7 replacements become less advanced?

Of course they will. the 8 will have an Oled Screen while the 7S won't - for instance.
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Some people prefer Android to iOS, but 80-90% of people I know who switched from iOS to Android switched back to iOS after 1-2 years.

I keep trying Android - different devices phones and tablets and I just don't like it. I find it obtuse to use and the apps really inconsistent in terms of quality and how they are used.

 

[RightMACatU]

Can't wait for the iPhone 9 rumours once my iPhone 8 ships.

Unfortunately, iPhone 9 rumors have also been delayed

 

[yanki01]

eh, we'll know more in 4 days.

 

[fathergll]

Everyone who isn't ready to spend an extra $350 on a phone... The 8 is obviously going to be more expensive, and it's unlikely to have features the 7s/7s+ won't have, so you can get a more familiar form factor with an LCD with most of the cool new features of the 8. Besides, the 7s just might be more stable overall.

A study showed 63% of Americans can't afford $500 car repair or $1000 emergency room visit. I personally have no problem "affording" a $1000 phone as I have no debt and money in checking and savings but even I am batting an eye about carrying around a phone that is that expensive. I still might buy the 8 depending on the final specs and price but the idea of having a phone that expensive is a bit much.

 

[pmau]

I can already smell the upcoming threads about order times, processing orders etc.
Then, the first lucky buyers will compare and complain every detail of this device to everything in their household.

"It's not as shiny as my fridge"
"The white levels of the OLED screen are more yellow than my Ikea table"
"My headphone jack is missing. Yours, too?"
"My face is not recognised if I wear my hijab."

It will be so much fun the next 6 weeks.

 

[recoil80]

Absolutely impossible - They would never do that, announce the iPhone 7s, make 99% of their userbase (ie: people that don't go to websites like this) think that is their iPhone for the year and buy it, then three months later release the iPhone 8?

That's how you upset the majority of your customer base.

Yeah I'm sure they'll introduce the new model even if it isn't ready to sell.
Customers would go nuts if they bought the 7s and find out after a couple of months that a new, better phone is available.
And by the way I think we can expect shortages but they'll try to make it available this month, or in October. They really need to be able to sell millions of those before Christmas, so they can't sell them in December like AirPods last year.

 

[jkozlow3]

A study showed 63% of Americans can't afford $500 car repair or $1000 emergency room visit.

I've read those studies as well and I wouldn't be surprised at all if 50% of the people on this forum fall into that category. Yet they'll spend $1000 on a phone. Something I personally wouldn't dream of doing without having $50k (at a minimum) in the bank.

To each his own, but it amazes me how many people live paycheck to paycheck. I have no idea how these people plan on retiring later in life. Perhaps their 2017 $1000 iPhone will somehow be able to assist them with this when they go to retire in 2050!

 

[MacPDiddy]

Apple's upcoming OLED iPhone 8 will not ship out alongside the standard LCD-equipped iPhone 7s and iPhone 7s Plus, reports TechCrunch, citing "trusted sources."

The high-end iPhone 8 will instead "ship out at a later time," but TechCrunch says it is unclear how long it will be between the availability of the two more affordable models and the iPhone 8.

Apple is planning its iPhone-centric event for Tuesday, September 12, and rumors have suggested the company will start accepting device pre-orders on Friday, September 15, with the first of the new iPhones becoming available on Friday, September 22.

If TechCrunch's information is correct, it's possible Apple will allow people to submit orders for the iPhone 8, but those orders may not ship out until sometime later in the year. Presumably, the iPhone 7s and the iPhone 7s Plus will ship out as planned in September.

Just this morning, The Wall Street Journal said iPhone 8 manufacturing issues could lead to extended supply shortages and shipping delays. Due to problems creating the OLED displays for the device and difficulties integrating Touch ID under the display (a plan that was later abandoned) Apple is said to be approximately about a month behind on its manufacturing timetable.

We have been hearing persistent rumors about serious iPhone 8 supply constraints for months. While it's true that supply issues plague every new iPhone release, especially when it comes to the most popular models, warnings of supply problems have been notably more prominent this year.

Trusted KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo has said the iPhone 8 will see "severe" supply shortages following its release and that it could take into the early months of 2018 for Apple to reach supply/demand balance, while a July report from Japanese site Mac Otakara said Apple may not start shipping the device to consumers until October or early November.

Article Link: OLED iPhone 8 Rumored to Ship Sometime After Standard iPhone 7s Models

[doublepost=1504878954][/doublepost]Trusted Ming Chi Kuo? Yeah, right. By whom? He's no better than a weather man.

 

[pmau]

He's no better than a weather man.

A meteorologist has to study...

 

[SoundJudgment]

I'm going to be pretty irritated if I get this new iPhone in October or November and next year they tell me I'm not eligible for my iPhone Upgrade Program swap until October or November.

It's okay, because the iPhone 9 won't be available to ship till Oct-Nov of 2018. So it all times out.

 

[mmm1345]

Love it! So true. Every year it's the same routine on these forums!

You forgot

Thursday - Apple surprised by volume. No iPhones available until December and Early Spring.
Friday - Analyst say iPhone 9 will feature....

 

[Chupa Chupa]

With car makers, features tend to trickle down, so you get abs, cruise control etc on the top of the range models first until the tech gets cheaper.
This is phones we are talking about. Once a dual camera is available, it should be on the mainstream iPhone. The iPhone is an expensive phone as it is and deserves a dual camera.
Best case scenario, 7s gets dual camera or what ever feature a year after the 8
Worst case scenarion, the 7s never gets a dual camera and this is "kept" for the 8.
Which is bad because the cost of a dual camera isn't that much.

I think you are taking the car analogy a bit too far. My example was only to demonstrate how companies squeeze in a new product or package to their lineup without disturbing the products on either side of the new one.

But the dual camera has only been in iPhones since last year, so even with your example, there literally has been no time for it to trickle down. But also it may not be technically practical which is why Apple only added it only to the plus. We don't know why the 7 didn't get it. But the plus is, of course, a bigger phone than the 4.7" 7, with a bigger battery and able to take in an additional camera. Again, with your analogy, there are features on, say the BMW 7 and 5 that NEVER make it down stream. For example, ventilated, air conditioned seats have never been offered on it's lower car lines (4,3,2,1). So your point really fails. Sometimes the flagship is the flagship and key features never filter down.

 

[RobinInOR]

OLED screens cost more than LCD.

Why not just get a Note8?

Tl;dr ICK

I went as far as putting an unlocked one in my cart on the Samsung site I’ve never used an android product, and I really really don’t like Google, I don’t even have a Google account or use any of their services knowingly (even trying to stay away from maps, gmail, and search). That’s a hard mindset to break.

What will work for me is keeping my iPhone 6+ and Apple Watch series 0 as is until the new iPhone is out, keep the 6+ as a WiFi device so it will have all my 32 bit apps, hope my old watch will connect nicely to the new phone so I don’t have to buy a new one. I can admire the Nore8 from afar since my bff will have one soon

I only upgrade when there’s new features that interest me. The screen, smaller bezels, along with the new AR capabilities in the software that will need the faster processors are enough to get me to upgrade, but not be interested in the non-oled new versions coming out, whatever they’re called.

 

[bdkennedy1]

Is that a tumor? No it's the camera.

 

[penajmz]

More bad news:

https://9to5mac.com/2017/09/08/iphone-8-release-date-october/

 

[xgman]

How is it that Samsung and others can get similar phones saturating the market with relative ease? Apple always seems to behind the ball on getting things out in a timely manner. I just don't get it. Contrary to what some may think, the hardware isn't all that different.

 

[AlphaGuitarist]

I keep trying Android - different devices phones and tablets and I just don't like it. I find it obtuse to use and the apps really inconsistent in terms of quality and how they are used.

Ditto. I'm a former Android user who switched to iOS when the iPhone 6 was released. Since then, I tried a couple of Android phones (Pixel and HTC U11) and went back to my iPhone in less than a week each time. I find iOS a lot more intuitive and user friendly. Sure, you can't customize iOS the same way you can customize Android, but I'm no longer interested in tinkering with my phone just to make it work the way I want it to work. Android is just not for me.

 

[MistrSynistr]

I still cannot believe they are creating two models this year. With the one most people can afford being a cheapo LCD version of OLED phones that have been around for years. LOL!

 

[Dropbrian]

Some people prefer Android to iOS, but 80-90% of people I know who switched from iOS to Android switched back to iOS after 1-2 years.

I love my iPad, and eagerly await iOS 11 to see if most/all of my laptop use-cases are finally addressed. I love the design of my iPhone SE, but find iOS to be cramped there. Frankly beyond my tablet (and beyond associated music/media production), I am not married to iOS; whatever I love about it, I love most in iPad. If I don't get waterproofing and a couple of other BASIC features in the iPhone SE2, I absolutely will consider jumping ship.

I switched from Windows to OSX (or MacOS or whatever it is now), and then switched back, happily. There are lots of anecdotal stories floating around about switching one way or another; usually they're heavily weighted by peer group.

 

[Mansu944]

Because this model isn't in the standard #/'s' release cycle, and is apparently an almost experimental 10th anniversary model, I can see this iPhone being impossible to get hold of for months, if at all, before the iPhone 8 is released in September 2018. My GUESS is that this thing will be ridiculously exclusive in terms of price and supply and be close to a collectors item.

I may pre-order and see what resale prices are looking like and weight that against how much I love it.

 

[Macalway]

Ok, Nov

You just saved $1000+ (for a while). Be happy