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One Million Copies of Lion Bought From Mac App Store

MH01 said:
Come on, you forgot!!!! REVOULUTIONARY, MAGICAL, AMAZING, INDUSTRY CHANGING.....

Serisouly what are you on???? Put down the Koolaid! This is not ASTOUNDING!

One million, big deal, I gurantee you there are way more than one million Apple Fanboys, so I would have expected more. Maybe too many of them have learned thier lesson from the past and are going to wait a week/2 to see how stable it is before jumping.

I expect it to do really well. The only question is around the delivery method and not the software itself, lets see how it takes off.
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Chill out. Not sure what your issue is with someone who is excited about what Apple is doing. If you can't stand the Apple enthusiasm here then by all means go to another website.

Apple is on a roll, trying to down play it does not change that fact. Apple has never been about selling the most of anything. It is pretty *ASTOUNDING* how well Apple has done selling Lion using a new distrubution method. Yes, it is a new distribution method for an OS. The fact that the Apple servers have kept up with demand is all pretty *AMAZING*. The doors to the band wagon are starting to open again and the rest of the industry will once again try to catch up. Umm, sounds exactly like *INDUSTRY CHANGING* happening again. Notice the *REVOULUTIONARY* trend going on here. Of course it all *MAGICAL* to say the least.

By the way, I have not drank *Koolaid* since I was a wee lass.

:rolleyes:

EDIT: Before someone jumps all over me, yes I know Linux as been allowing people to download the OS basically forever from the internet. I guess I should have said "new distribution method for a mass produced OS".
 
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Except the part where if you have RAID your install becomes totally hosed and you have to repair from Snow Leopard disk. Good thing they checked that PRIOR to the install starting.
 
Lion install just bricked my mini

I just tried to install Lion and it has completely bricked my mini.

After the installer rebooted and started to install Lion, an error message came up saying Lion could not be installed. it had a message saying it would reboot to SL once I clicked the reboot button.

Then I clicked and nothing, just a black screen.

I looked up the error message on apple's support site and it seems to imply that something was wrong with my bootcamp partition:

www.apple.com/support/no-recovery

To make matters worse, one of my kids dvds was in the drive, so I can't use the SL system restore dvd... Am a little stuck atm.
 
The Beatles said:
I took the negative mark off your post. Ridiculous that you can't ask a simple question without some idiot marking it negative.

To answer your question, i think its a great user experience update for any system that uses a track pad. your going to get that tactile connection with the content which makes computing enjoyable. also, there are tons of nice little features like sorting a folder by "Date Added". Very useful. The download manager in safari is great and you can drag and drop files from the download manager to the desktop which is useful. spotlight has been graphically enhanced. if you use apple mail you'll see a huge improvement. this alone is worth thirty bucks and it isn't a hassle. at least for me it hasn't been.

theres also under the hood changes. file vault actually encrypts on a layer above 3rd party apps and is more robust and modern than before. versioning is great once you let go of the nerd aspect. if your like me you don't want to give that control up but then soon realize its ok. you can go read the ars technica article which talks about the under the hood changes. the finder is cocoa and uses new APIs which is great. even in column view when sorting by date added, you get headers (today, yesterday, etc.) and the content of the column is organized under those headers in column view. these headers show up in date modified too, so if you have a big client folder for example, you can sort it in date modified (even in column view) and all your current projects jump to the top of the column. Now i don't have to scan the whole folder for my current projects. the way its implemented in Lion gives you more feedback and is a great use of information design.

I think for a trackpad or laptop owner, this update is even more appealing due to enhanced user experience.
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Thank you. My wife and I were both reading about the changes in more detail last night, and your point about the download manager has me sold. I download a lot of guitar tabs and having to open two finder windows and keep one on "downloads" gets annoying. I think it'll be worth being able to drag straight from the download manager (which I cant believe wasn't the case already). I love the trackpad and magic mouse, so I'm going to go ahead and give this upgrade a go for the new user interface.
 
maprx said:
Upgraded to Lion and lost my sound on my iMac. Check out the web, all output devices are gone, reset smc and pram, nothing. SLoooow, this upgrade is a major downgrade. Apple has gone the way of Microsoft. Release an unfinished product and make people pay to be beta testers. It over 24 hours since the release and no fix for no sound. THAT MEANS NO ITUNES.. Check this out when Lion boots, you hear sound, once the os starts, sound is gone. Log in screen is like a big linux distro. You can't even tell, you upgraded. I would wait for some updates. NO SOUND?????? APPLE FIX THIS !!!!!!!! OH, MICROSOFT OFFICE DOES NOT WORK IN LION ALSO, WORSE APPLE RELEASE EVER!!!!!!!!!
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There is a thread somewhere with a fix for this.

Off the top of my head you need to go to the Midi preferences or something and change something that is 16bit to 32bit.

Sorry for my rambling as i wasn't paying attention 100% as i don't have the issue. Heck, i wasn't even paying attention 20%.
 
engbren said:
I just tried to install Lion and it has completely bricked my mini.

After the installer rebooted and started to install Lion, an error message came up saying Lion could not be installed. it had a message saying it would reboot to SL once I clicked the reboot button.

Then I clicked and nothing, just a black screen.

I looked up the error message on apple's support site and it seems to imply that something was wrong with my bootcamp partition:

www.apple.com/support/no-recovery

To make matters worse, one of my kids dvds was in the drive, so I can't use the SL system restore dvd... Am a little stuck atm.
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Can't say if this will work in your situation but try holding down the mouse button when rebooting the computer. Usually this will eject the CD/DVD that is in the optical drive.
 
Mini installing now

Taz Mangus said:
Can't say if this will work in your situation but try holding down the mouse button when rebooting the computer. Usually this will eject the CD/DVD that is in the optical drive.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I tried this and it didn't work. What did work however, was to boot into safe mode by holding down the shift key after power up.

This allowed me to eject the dvd, delete my bootcamp partition (it only had a clean xp install) and re-start the lion installer. Seems to have progressed much further this time, but is still installing.
 
I got thirty dollars in iTunes cards, thinking I'd be able to get it.

Thanks to sales tax, I can't. I'm missing out. :\
 
Online distribution is alright for me. Downloads instead of CDs is very familiar for me, rarely I'll use a CD and burning one almost never occurs, even though I live in a third world country
 
AidenShaw said:
Just how is it Adobe's fault that Apple broke things in 10.7?

The purpose of the Developer Preview is so that
  • Developers of user appls can get a head start on supporting new features like Resume, and be ready to go on shipment day
  • Developers writing drivers (kernel extensions) can be ready with updates on day 1
  • Apple can get feedback on things that Apple has broken, and fix them before shipment day
The purpose of the preview is not so that Apple can break things, and the developers can waste time, effort and money to work around what Apple broke.
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Time passes and Aiden Shaw remains the same, a perpetual Apple basher.

Apple OWNS OS X, therefore the company controls it and any evolutionary steps thereof. To say that Apple broke its own "things" is ludicrous, to say the least, especially in a deliberate context of both under-the-hood and UI changes.

Once more: DPs are EXACTLY meant to show developers what changes are envisaged and/or implemented so that they can adjust their software accordingly. If they don't feel like supporting OS X, it's THEIR choice (as has been the sad case with Adobe for more than a decade now) - just don't try to blame it on whoever owns the OS and has clearly made changes visible through DPs in the first place.

Try again, Aiden.
 
Taz Mangus said:
EDIT: Before someone jumps all over me, yes I know Linux as been allowing people to download the OS basically forever from the internet. I guess I should have said "new distribution method for a mass produced OS".
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Are you implying that linux is not mass produced?

Actually, what exactly is "mass produced" in terms of software?
 
the8thark said:
For some people roughly $30 is a lot of money. Not everyone is rich. Please understand this.
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Not everyone who has a brain uses it, I fear.

I suppose this isn't super surprising... now that it's available online and for only $30, and Apple is basically a PC company, its user base is fairly substantial now... and easy access and low price points = quick sell. Plus AFAIK Lion doesn't cut out any machines the way SL, Leopard and Tiger did. Well, and Panther.
 
Eidorian said:
Now that is scary.
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The software that I write supported PowerPC for many years after Apple stopped selling PowerPC machines - because replacing a PowerPC computer with an Intel-based Mac costs significant money.

We dropped MacOS X 10.4 and PowerPC at exactly the same time when we felt that the customer base was not there anymore, and supporting 10.4 held us back. However, 10.5 support was dropped _very_ shortly afterwards with the obvious argument that upgrading to Snow Leopard was only $29, and importantly, being able to require Snow Leopard and using all Snow Leopard features makes life an awful lot easier, especially in the area of multi-threading and supporting multiple cores.

And moving to Lion means hugely improved security. Again, for $29. Some machines will be dropped (my own old MacBook unfortunately among them), but these machines were sold at about the same time as the last PowerPCs. And Lion has the advantage that you can go purely with 64 bit, which has additional advantages.


Asclepio said:
Lol It's just my point of view, about torrents... some people have problems with mac app store so they downloaded it on this way.
If i don't like lion i'm a troll or insecure person???
Man, you need some help.
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Not liking Lion doesn't make you a troll. Your posts (advocating piracy, and insulting both developers and customers) make you a troll. And not liking Lion doesn't make you an insecure person, but trolling shows clearly that you are either just nasty, or totally insecure, or both. So don't try twisting my arguments.
 
the8thark said:
For some people roughly $30 is a lot of money. Not everyone is rich. Please understand this.
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For people running the OS on a piece of machinery that cost at least $600 (entry level Mac Mini). really?

That's like suggesting people can afford an moderately expensive car but then need to steal the air filter from another car.....
 
Developers, Developers, Developers!

BRLawyer said:
Apple OWNS OS X, therefore the company controls it and any evolutionary steps thereof.
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True, but the company that follows what I've stated has 95% market share.

The company that does what you suggest struggles at 5% market share.

Do you understand the correlation?
 
DeathChill said:
I guess that's the difference between Microsoft's approach and Apple's approach. Apple isn't afraid to make changes that break existing software, Microsoft is much more interested in backwards compatibility.

Both approaches have merit, I think. With Microsoft you don't have to worry (for the most part) that your old software is going to be unusable with the upgrade, but with Apple you get the benefit of much faster and larger changes.
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Except that this was originally about Adobe CS 5.5 incompatibility, claimed by one user.

For what is worth: it runs fine on the two machines that I have upgraded to Lion.
 
AidenShaw said:
True, but the company that follows what I've stated has 95% market share.

The company that does what you suggest struggles at 5% market share.

Do you understand the correlation?
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"struggles"?

EDIT: so I get downvoted for this? What is it guys: too afraid to give a real reaction?
 
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slinky199 said:
Are you implying that linux is not mass produced?

Actually, what exactly is "mass produced" in terms of software?
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I guess it was late when I wrote that. Should have wrote a "new distribution method for a OS that is sold to consumers".
 
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Ok, update.. My mini (2010) installed lion ok in the end. However, hdmi out is not working. I had to go find my mini display port to VGA adapter and connect it that way. On hdmi I just get a white 1080i screen that flickers and then black screen. On VGA, at full resolution lion boots successfully.
 
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