There's a lot of people out there that think that "very strong line-up" sells pretty well considering Apple had another record breaking quarter.
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There's a lot of people out there that think that "very strong line-up" sells pretty well considering Apple had another record breaking quarter.
It's all symantecs. "Line-up" could simply refer to the mini, imac, macpro lines. An nice update to core i7 for the imac doesn't change the line-up. The line-up stays the same. If Ford changes the engine on the Mustang, does that change their lineup?
Really, because Steve doesn't seem to think so:
"We've got a very strong lineup for the holiday season and some really great new products in the pipeline for 2010."
That's what I'm thinking - there's really only the new iPods, and even the new MBPs will be getting on a little by the time the 'holiday season' rolls around.
While I understand what you are saying, but traditionally when Apple says this they mean nothing new is coming.
That could be interpreted in a few ways to be honest.
Strong lineup to me implies as bump in specs ready for this week - which would make it a 'strong lineup for the holiday season'.
The 'new products in the pipeline' I assume is the tablet or whatever has been rumoured - totally new products if you know what I mean.
I understand, but as I said in another post, Apple has said this before and it traditionally means nothing is coming, hence the "We've got" (past tenths).
I hope this is wrong since most of the evidence supports new Macs, but Apple seems to be doing fine with the outdated hardware so why bother. Updating in early 2010 will get the more die hard fans to buy after the average consumer buys during the Christmas season.
Also disappointed because it likely means the iMac will stay with dual-core via the Arrandale chips instead of the quad-core Clarksfield chips. Off well, time for a Mac Pro I guess.
Oh...OK. I'm still trying to figure out "Apple-speak". I guess I'm hoping more than anything. So, "new products" means tablet (among other things) I guess?
Thanks.
I agree, but with all of the below happening recently - theres something in the pipeline for the holiday season:
- Stock shortages
- Google revealing new product ads
Not necessarily true about the past tense. He could honestly be looking at what the line-up they have proposed for the holiday season, being another lineup and still use the same verbage, because the lineup would still be what the have for the holiday season.
Source please. And yes, only printed media will do
Here you go:
"We've got a very strong lineup for the holiday season and some really great new products in the pipeline for 2010."
Okay, Apple just let the cat out of the bag in today's financial results (live broadcast). NEW products this quarter (prior to end of year) will result in lowered margins and they also expect additional cost for increased air freight. The exact quote was something like, "lower margins based upon products that we have introduced and new products that we will introduce..." this quarter.
Did they specifically say new products introduced before year end?
Cause that's not the same thing. Of course, if they do that next year, that's par for the course, nobody denies that... new products next year. More freight charges for shipping old product this year to stuff the inventory channel for the holidays.
It sure doesn't sound like they are just going to plug along with the same stuff. We'll be waiting your groveling apology if you're proven to be wrong on this.
I'll take Steve's word on this. They already have a great holiday lineup, and new products coming out in 2010. So no apologies needed. I am very accurate, a helpful and good person.
Like I said before. You do realize when Apple says "2010" they are referring to the fiscal year 2010 which starts in Sept. 2009.
Of note from Apple's earnings call today...
Apple shipped 787,000 Mac desktops during the fourth quarter of 2009, amounting to $1.086 billion in revenue. That was a 20 percent decline in revenue for the desktop business compared to a year prior, with 16 percent fewer machines sold.
Steve's "very strong line-up" for the holidays has to include a solid iMac update (Clarksfield) wouldn't you think??
Apple shipped 787,000 Mac desktops during the fourth quarter of 2009, amounting to $1.086 billion in revenue. That was a 20 percent decline in revenue for the desktop business compared to a year prior, with 16 percent fewer machines sold.
Steve's "very strong line-up" for the holidays has to include a solid iMac update (Clarksfield) wouldn't you think??
I try not to think, because it hurts. However in this case I would say it's a better than 50% chance we will see completely new iMacs for the holiday season 2009. Desktop sales are already declining, Apple needs some bold moves in this area right NOW to recapture some sales.
In the effort of completeness it's important to point out which Steve you are meeting with who is giving you this advice;
I didn't think Steve was referring to the first quarter of 2010 - after all, you can introduce new products during any quarter, as long as it's 2010. So if it's calendar 2010, that qualifies. How do I know it is not the first quarter of 2010? Because that quarter is referred to by Steve as the holiday season (for which they already have a "very strong lineup") - then he makes a distinction with new product for 2010, subsequent to the holiday season. I AM THE GREATEST!!!
NO UPDATES!!!! this fiscal year!
Definitely hints at new products at today's financial call
They also just said that the additional air freight which will be affecting their margins next quarter will not be for the iPhone but for inventories that would need to be built-up prior to the Christmas selling season. So, if they aren't going to have new products why do they need additional air freight? Frankly, it sounds to me that they are leaving hints in many of the answers during the financial forecast for next quarter (Oct - Dec 2009).
One analyst just picked up on the additional air freight question and asked if that was related to new Mac products and Apple gave a non-answer -- "it's because we can't move the holiday season" and that's all we can say. Then someone at Apple said we have to have some "fun" during these financial calls.
I can't remember the exact words, but they definitely made a distinction between products introduced last quarter and "new" products that would affect the financial guidance for next quarter (and the next financial quarter is Oct - Dec 2009).
They also just said that the additional air freight which will be affecting their margins next quarter will not be for the iPhone but for inventories that would need to be built-up prior to the Christmas selling season. So, if they aren't going to have new products why do they need additional air freight? Frankly, it sounds to me that they are leaving hints in many of the answers during the financial forecast for next quarter (Oct - Dec 2009).
One analyst just picked up on the additional air freight question and asked if that was related to new Mac products and Apple gave a non-answer -- "it's because we can't move the holiday season" and that's all we can say. Then someone at Apple said we have to have some "fun" during these financial calls.