Online Orders for iPhone 5s Begin at 12:01 AM Pacific Time on Friday, September 20

[KdParker]

Just got back from Target. I was only the 2nd person to place the "pre-order" from that location, so this doesn't seem to be that well publicized.

What the rep told me is that they are taking pre-orders over the next several days. They'll then use that order to submit to the warehouses and hope to fill the order. Once the phone arrive (presumably the 19th), they'll email customers to let them know that the phone arrived and that they have 48hrs to pick up their phone (obviously can't pick it up before the 20th). If you don't pick it up, it goes to the next person on the list.

What....you can order a 5s from target, then they will let you pick it up on the 20th?

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Anyone planning to use an upgrade, DO NOT order online at 12:01 and then attempt to find one in a store at 8:00. Your upgrade will be used at the time of your online purchase, and you will not be able to received subsidized pricing in-store.

I just visited an AT&T store, and this is what I was told.

Not true...you can just cancel the online order and get you upgrade back.

 

[flashflooder]

why is it a stupid phone? no life is waiting online for 10 hours to buy a cell phone. what i'm doing is quite simple

and why is this according to your wife? who asked her?

tell her to keep it quiet & get back to the corner she works at

Why is it a stupid phone? Because my wife isn't interested in it. Anything she isn't interested is, by default, stupid. Even more so if I happen to be interested in it.

No one asked her, it's just what she told me last year when the light from the laptop woke her up at 3AM and she later reiterated when I told her I planned to do the same this year.

I may be a stupid idiot who gets up at 3AM to preorder a stupid phone, but I know better than to tell her to keep it quiet.

 

[Battlefield Fan]

Are you kidding? The mass exodus happened two years ago. It was a non-event, so many people don't remember.

It's like when the world ended last December. People were just too busy with their day to day lives to notice.

The end of the world and mass exodus used to be more impressive, but we've become so jaded....

waaaiiiitttt whaaatttt???

 

[champ01]

Before you all hit the buy button make sure you sent an email with a copy of your passport plus phone number to the NSA. Otherwise they will have a little bit more work to do which is coming from your taxes.

Now that Apple introduced the fingerprint crap does that mean the iPhone 5 will be the last phone that I ever bought?
Because from now on out every new iPhone will have this fingerprint bs. And I don't want it!

 

[mdelvecchio]

Where did you get twice the speed?

apple has stated that the CPU & GPU are up to twice the speed of the 5.

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I have a hard time accepting responses like these. No offense to you or anyone, but... With resale value of the last iPhone 5. You can get (if you did it right away), over $300 back. I used Gazelle (there are other options, even Apple does it now, but for gift cards only at there stores). I am getting back for 2 iPhone 5 $660. That's $330 each. New iPhone 5s is $199 on contract. I'm making $131 on the deal per phone. It makes NooOOooooOOo sense to keep the old phone, not even for sentimental value, cause it works just fine and I don't "need" any more then that.

agreed. fyi, you can get more on ebay. last year i sold an iphone4S 64gb for $465. more than enough for me to get the 5 with.

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Same here, but I have hope that in about 3 months they'll quietly cut 16GB, make 32 GB the entry and add 128GB.

that wont happen. this design is set, so youll be waiting until the next refresh.

 

[Firocity]

Before you all hit the buy button make sure you sent an email with a copy of your passport plus phone number to the NSA. Otherwise they will have a little bit more work to do which is coming from your taxes.

Now that Apple introduced the fingerprint crap does that mean the iPhone 5 will be the last phone that I ever bought?
Because from now on out every new iPhone will have this fingerprint bs. And I don't want it!

You are too paranoid dude. Just don't use the feature, they aren't forcing you to.

 

[NoneOfYourB]

Now that Apple introduced the fingerprint crap does that mean the iPhone 5 will be the last phone that I ever bought?
Because from now on out every new iPhone will have this fingerprint bs. And I don't want it!

What's crap about the fingerprint reader?

 

[mdelvecchio]

This. Apple wants the lines for publicity sake. You can't show how enthusiastic people are for a product if they preorder it online.

not. apple is beyond needing to that...theyre already the most profitable cell maker, and their iphone is already the single best selling handset, for many years running. they dont need to create artificial demand.

the realty is likely manufacturing constraint. they dont have enough to sell to both presales and retail outlets.

 

[hayesk]

Just FYI if you want a 5, T-Mobile reduced the price of those today to $99 on contract and $550 for outright.

Why not get a 5c with slightly better battery and better front camera at the same price? Other than the metal back, I can't see a reason to get the 5 over the 5c?

 

[Dave00]

Before you all hit the buy button make sure you sent an email with a copy of your passport plus phone number to the NSA. Otherwise they will have a little bit more work to do which is coming from your taxes.

Now that Apple introduced the fingerprint crap does that mean the iPhone 5 will be the last phone that I ever bought?
Because from now on out every new iPhone will have this fingerprint bs. And I don't want it!

Repeat after me.
Touch ID is an optional feature that you don't have to use.

Don't want it? Don't use it. It's not turned on until you set it up to read your fingerprint.

Furthermore, I just don't get how people think the NSA is going to go through the trouble to get your fingerprint, or how they'd use such information for anything nefarious. If I want your fingerprint, it's very easy to obtain. I just wait until you move away from something you've touched, then dust it. You cannot take medical boards (and probably other professional exams) without being fingerprinted. Your world is going to be awfully small if you don't want to ever be fingerprinted.

 

[CarlElvis]

Before you all hit the buy button make sure you sent an email with a copy of your passport plus phone number to the NSA. Otherwise they will have a little bit more work to do which is coming from your taxes.

Now that Apple introduced the fingerprint crap does that mean the iPhone 5 will be the last phone that I ever bought?
Because from now on out every new iPhone will have this fingerprint bs. And I don't want it!

Dont worry about the NSA having your fingerprint. You've been walking around with the equivalent of an ankle bracelet, recording your every move, for years. The fact is for 99% of the population all this data is just noise the NSA has to shift through.

 

[Cody21]

For people on the east coast, that'll be 3:01AM correct?

 

[champ01]

What's crap about the fingerprint reader?

Read the previous part if you still don't get it.
Now take a peak at the future were we all live in peace... sure fingerprint is great.

Ok now take a peak into the future but a future thats more as our current one with corruption, greed, wars, poverty, dept etc. and none in government and the business world who you can really trust. Still think fingerprint is such a good idea?

 

[AppleDude]

Can't figure it out--must be the new unemployed

It's nice to know that there are people out there without a job who are receiving financial support from their parents.

Consider admiring, rather than criticizing, those who have learned there are ways to earn a living outside the cubby (especially since you can't even conceive of it.)

 

[Firocity]

Consider admiring, rather than criticizing, those who have learned there are ways to earn a living outside the cubby (especially since you can't even conceive of it.)

Don't disrespect the cubby!

 

[champ01]

Repeat after me.
Touch ID is an optional feature that you don't have to use.

Don't want it? Don't use it. It's not turned on until you set it up to read your fingerprint.

How sure are you thats it really optional? Is it because Apple says so and the users would see it on their screen?
Even if thats the case and the fingerprint scanner is fully disabled how long will it last before it not a optional thing anymore?

Furthermore, I just don't get how people think the NSA is going to go through the trouble to get your fingerprint, or how they'd use such information for anything nefarious. If I want your fingerprint, it's very easy to obtain. I just wait until you move away from something you've touched, then dust it. You cannot take medical boards (and probably other professional exams) without being fingerprinted. Your world is going to be awfully small if you don't want to ever be fingerprinted.

You clearly don't get the whole point and seriousness about it.
Its totally not about that. Its about WHO is using the device at a specific time.
I think its only a matter of time we see this stuff being used in court as evidence.

E.G: Before "they" (whoever that may be) could trace a mobile phone. Now "they" can actually confirm who is using the phone.

Btw I use NSA because its in the media and people know a thing or two what its about. Believe me there are even worse things in the world then NSA that the media doesn't even have the guts to talk about.

 

[Klae17]

It's nice to know that there are people out there without a job who are receiving financial support from their parents.

Actually, I own my own businesses and support my parents. You can't camp out with us? U mad bro?

I learned that having a 9-5 job not only sucks, but is lazy. Having a business and breaking out of the rat race and creating passive income and jobs benefits society.

 

[mdelvecchio]

Before you all hit the buy button make sure you sent an email with a copy of your passport plus phone number to the NSA. Otherwise they will have a little bit more work to do which is coming from your taxes.

Now that Apple introduced the fingerprint crap does that mean the iPhone 5 will be the last phone that I ever bought?
Because from now on out every new iPhone will have this fingerprint bs. And I don't want it!

just dont use it...problem solved. easy, huh?

but if youre interested in facts, look it up..the prints are converted into a numeric template, a one-way cryographic hash is applied, then stored in the local A7 processor alone. not online, not transmitted. the hacker community will quickly validate this in a control room w/ packet sniffer.

or you can live your life based on fears.

 

[bbeagle]

How sure are you thats it really optional? Is it because Apple says so and the users would see it on their screen?
Even if thats the case and the fingerprint scanner is fully disabled how long will it last before it not a optional thing anymore?

It's really optional.

You clearly don't get the whole point and seriousness about it.
Its totally not about that. Its about WHO is using the device at a specific time.
I think its only a matter of time we see this stuff being used in court as evidence.

E.G: Before "they" (whoever that may be) could trace a mobile phone. Now "they" can actually confirm who is using the phone.

Now you have a valid point there....

It's both a good and a bad thing. Yes, it can be more proven that you are the one using a phone that was at the scene of a crime. Just like DNA is used now. But, it can also clear you of wrong-doing if your phone was stolen.

You can now be tracked with GPS on your phone. Weigh the pros and cons of it. If you're a jealous ex-boyfriend or a drunk driver, or a stalker, etc. then don't carry around a GPS phone or a fingerprint phone, but if you're a regular person, I would think that clearing myself of wrong-doing, being able to find my cell phone if it gets stolen, someone can find me if I get abducted/lost etc. would be a huge pro for me vs. the cons.

If you're into something on the 'shady' side like marijuana, then you have every option not to carry these devices around.

 

[mdelvecchio]

Read the previous part if you still don't get it.
Now take a peak at the future were we all live in peace... sure fingerprint is great.

Ok now take a peak into the future but a future thats more as our current one with corruption, greed, wars, poverty, dept etc. and none in government and the business world who you can really trust. Still think fingerprint is such a good idea?

what on earth are you talking about? pure gibberish. corruption, greed, war, povery, and debt have absolutely nothing to do w/ hash data points representing your print stored locally on your device's processor.

 

[B4U]

It's nice to know that there are people out there without a job who are receiving financial support from their parents.

It is also nice to know that someone cannot accept the fact there are a lot of us are on a flexible work schedule and then decided to imply their own situation to the rest of us as a stereotype.

I have sympathy for the fact that those people who cannot simply manage their time wisely or have to work on a fixed schedule from 9 to 5 in an office.

 

[mattnotis]

My ass will be parked in front of my computer at 11:55 PM ready to click. No way I'm waiting in that line.

 

[WilliamG]

I'm really hoping we'll be able to order for in-store pickup at 12:01am PT for pickup later Friday…

 

[mdelvecchio]

How sure are you thats it really optional? Is it because Apple says so and the users would see it on their screen?
Even if thats the case and the fingerprint scanner is fully disabled how long will it last before it not a optional thing anymore?

uh, forever? bio-metrics are only one factor in the three authentication buckets: 1) something you know (password), 2) something you have (physical token), 3) something you are (bio-metric ID). two-factor security is most desired, not one-factor.

since bio-metrics are not fail safe, a second factor will always be an option. apple is a consumer company, not the government. they will include features consumers want, like alternatives to bio-metrics. for obvious reasons.

http://tidbits.com/article/14089

I think its only a matter of time we see this stuff being used in court as evidence. E.G: Before "they" (whoever that may be) could trace a mobile phone. Now "they" can actually confirm who is using the phone.

mobile records are *already* used in court. texts of planning to kill someone, etc...already used as evidence.

 

[Karma*Police]

A few years ago when I bought the iPhone 3G I had an issue at the Apple Store where they couldn't activate the phone because I have a corporate discount on my AT&T account. After spending half the day in line I was told I needed to have the discount removed before buying the phone at the Apple Store. The only way to get the phone with the discount was to buy it directly from AT&T. Does anyone know if that's still the case?

That's strange because I never had issues with keeping my AT&T corporate discount when buying phones directly from Apple.