That era is long gone.😞Miss the days when there was one size and one phone.
My point was that Apple will only add mmWave to 1 device and sell some; but the following iPhone cycle, Apple will add mmWave to all models and sell an abundance.
Agree totally. I even like bigger phones, but 11PM is about as big as I want. IF they pull this garbage, they better slim down the bezels and notch to keep it close to 11PM body size.Sooo stupid, if true. A lot of people will have to decide if they are willing to put up with a phablet, to have this feature.
Yeah - your point implies that the inclusion (or exclusion) of mmWave is going to be the deciding factor in a lot of purchases and I'm telling you that you're wrong.![]()
I live in an urban area that may or may not benefit from mmWave and to your point I honestly don't care.
But that said, it would be good for folks to understand whether or not mmWave will be present where you live (and travel to) and what its REAL WORLD benefits are vs theoretical ones. It's quite possible your area may never get mmWave or won't until long after you've changed phones. Or it's there now but is not optimal. in other words, not having mmWave is likely not a big deal at all for most iPhone users, if they even know what that is. Remember, many AT&T customers think they have 5G now
Buying a Pro Max just to get mmWave? That's not going to be the main feature driving Pro Max sales, but it might pick up a few savvy buyers. Many of us buy the model for the big screen and camera capabilities. Oh, it's got mmWave? Bonus, but maybe a useless one at this time. Two things are likely to happen with the non-Max models:
* mmWave will make its way into other iPhone 12 models next year
* mmWave will make its way into all iPhone 12 Pro models this year and the original subject is bogus (or "fake" per an earlier post). This entire thread is moot anyways.
Does anyone even care about this 5G?
I believe Kuo reported this few months back.
I’m going to call complete BS to this. With all of Apples prowess it makes zero sense they can’t design a still rather large phone 6.1 inch to fit a 5G antenna. 5G has been on the drawing board for quite some time now, you can’t tell me they didn’t have time to figure out how to get it to fit. Perhaps it’s a cost saving measure or some other reason, but to give that reason is a slap in the face to anyone with a brain.
Now we just need a WiFi solution for sound. I'm tired of the bluetooth standard forcing low quality, lossy audio on wireless headphones. I'm happy to give twice the battery life for twice the Audio bandwidth - audio is SO MUCH lower bandwidth than anything else I do like browse the web, watching movies, etc, that it just doesn't make any sense to limit it to max 320kilobits/second.
FFS, Apple - stop making features only available to the largest screen size! Some of us want "all the premium" in a smaller form factor! (They've been doing this for a very long time - I remember in 2003 buying my 12" PowerBook G4 and missing out on features the 17" model had. The iPhone 7 Plus getting the second camera but not the smaller iPhone 7, etc.)
I agree.Yeah - your point implies that the inclusion (or exclusion) of mmWave is going to be the deciding factor in a lot of purchases and I'm telling you that you're wrong.
So, literally no iphone that's ever been made has had this feature. Is your phone not fast enough now? Why does anyone care about this?
Because there are people who wants to maintain their iPhones more than 1-2 years, and mmWave5G feature is for near future networks.
Me too. It's more than just top speed. It keeps your average speed up because it can handle more concurrent users before slowingI certainly do. I live in a city that Verizon has had MMwave in for well over a year and it’s all over. I get that it’s sparse for most but I would welcome it personally
Cool I was wondering how 5G compared for inside. Wonder if it can penetrate Boscovs and BJs that have absolutely 0 coverage inside. At least I think BJs has Wi-Fi though.I don't care about mmWave 5G, butI do care about the sub 6MHz 5G. I have T-Mobile and I have 1-2 bars in my house. And there is 5G coverage here now that can penetrate walls better and much better coverage, so as long as the new iPhone support that I'll be happy.
LOL we should only need 4MEGAbytes and 2400 baud like I had way back when1997: Your computer has 256mb RAM. Is your computer not fast enough now? Why does anyone care about this?
Yea usually internet speed can be the biggest bottleneck depending on what you need. But the main reason I don't get Gb is because I don't want to pay way more than for 50Mb. Sometimes I wish you could just rent Gb speed for a few minutes when you need to download. That's really the only noticeable difference with 50M vs 1GNobody in the history of time has ever said "My computer is fast enough". I'm talking about the speed of your network. People DO actually say "My internet speed is fast enough to meet my needs". It's why everyone doesn't have a 1Gbit line. Try again.
Edit to add: Also, not sure how old you are, but 256 mb of ram would have been an incredible amount of RAM in 1997. So either you're being hyperbolic or missing the point: the commonly available mobile internet speeds on your current iPhone that you were just marketed to last year as being the fastest iPhone ever iPhoned is suddenly not fast enough to meet your needs? (If you don't meet this criteria don't answer me.)
Exactly. The save will eventually happen with 4G LTE vs 5G. Once more apps and such are coded for 5G, then 4G will feel like molasses.Who? 3G always felt slow. It was much slower than home broadband at the time.
For right now it is really unlimited I think. Eventually I'm sure it will be "unlimited" againYou need an unlimited data plan to be on 5G for all carriers.
The fit in the pocket and weight. I did not enjoy my phone bulging from my pants nor feeling heavy in my pocket.I go back and forth. Had a 6S Plus, then iPhone 8, and now XS Max. Planned to go smaller pro model, but LiDAR and this article makes me want to spend the extra $100 for the larger screen, and those extra features. A better value proposition.
Just curious, what makes you definitely never go back to the phablet?
There's certainly a tendency for programmers to use more CPU or maybe RAM as those become faster/bigger over time, and it counteracts Moore's Law, but wasting more network bandwidth takes effort. Also, there will probably be a sufficient population not using 5G.Exactly. The save will eventually happen with 4G LTE vs 5G. Once more apps and such are coded for 5G, then 4G will feel like molasses.
Future proofing, I imagine. I used to upgrade yearly until the 6s series/ Now, I upgrade every 3, for a multitude of reasons I won't get into here. While my area doesn't have 5G yet, it undoubtedly will within the enxt three years. I am only about 35 miles west of Boston.So, literally no iphone that's ever been made has had this feature. Is your phone not fast enough now? Why does anyone care about this?
I get that.They can probably get it to fit but would need to sacrifice some other function or features.
Would you be okay with less battery and 5G?
Good, fast or cheap? Pick two.
Thats the typical engineering question. You can have two of the three but not all three.
The same applies -> long battery life, all the features, and the size you want?
Pick two.