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Skeptical about the legitimacy of this, but in the end I do hope that eventually someone comes along and beats Apple in court about the legality of building clones. It would simply be great to have competition in the Mac hardware market. Imagine how fast Apple would have fixed that damned keyboard if there had been an alternative Mac OS compatible laptop for sale that had a keyboard that wasn't a piece of crap? But Apple has a lock on the hardware market (unless you are really fringe and want to cobble together your own Hackintosh) and thus were able to continue selling laptops with fundamentally unsuited for purpose keyboards for, what was it, 5 years? Something like that! Look at what's happening with GPUs and CPUs, as soon as AMD really got their act together Nvidia and Intel have had to step it up too; or reduce pricing. Competition is good, and it would be good for all of us is Apple had even a little bit of competition when it comes to Mac OS based computers.
It would be the end of mac. Why would apple put any effort into developing an operating system if anyone can come along with their own hardware and just use apple’s operating system for free?
 
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One of the strengths of Apple and of macOS is the limited number of systems it runs on. IMHO, far more reliable, on the whole, compared to Windows.
 
I built a Hackintosh, it worked well once I had it up and running. You have to buy a computer based on other builds that work with well known hardware. Every time a new release or patch came out, it was a debacle. I loaded Windows back on it and sold it. I bought a Mac mini for $900 in it's place. It was nice though, very powerful for a $300 laptop.
 
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Who exactly is this for? If you're a pro, you don't want a hackjob that breaks from every update and has weird stability issues. If you're a hacker, you don't buy a $2200 finished product. If you're into open source community stuff, this thing rips off the real OpenCore.

Whenever I hackintosh something, it's just cause I can. Not cause I'm going to rely on it.
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plus credit card chargebacks when things go south and they don’t ship
Exactly, the whole thing reeks of scam.
 
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Calm down. If so he would have used the word "tower." Desktop was used. I'm Ok with you not understanding the difference.
I’m not with it. The traditional desktop is a tower insofar as the pizza box style machines that once had a monitor on top are no longer made, plus the context of our dialog is a about an article on the subject of a hackintosh tower.
 
It is legal because it is designed and assembled in an "autonomous zone"
No, it is illegal. It may be assembled in an allegedly autonomous zone, but the transaction occurred in the US, and in order for the customer to receive the computer, it must be imported to the US. Sale and importation of patented products is illegal if you don't have a license.
 
Why can't Apple make a normal desktop around $3000? It shouldn't be a problem. If you disagree, then you have a problem.
Why should they is there question. They seem to be doing well without it.
Actually no. The answer to "Why *should* they" is *not* because they're doing well without it. "Why *should* they" is because there's a need for that kind of machine, and they're not serving that need. "Why *don't* they" is the question answered by "they're doing well without it." Yes, they're making a pile of money while ignoring a market segment. Some of us don't think that's something to be smug about.
 
Actually no. The answer to "Why *should* they" is *not* because they're doing well without it. "Why *should* they" is because there's a need for that kind of machine, and they're not serving that need. "Why *don't* they" is the question answered by "they're doing well without it." Yes, they're making a pile of money while ignoring a market segment. Some of us don't think that's something to be smug about.

There is no proof that Apple is doing well with the Mac desktop. How come Macbook Pro and MacBook Air are the only product getting annual updates while Mac desktops arent?

iMac's design itself is 8 years old with minimum changes. Do you really think they are doing well? Gosh... Mac mini didnt update for 4 years until 2018. iMac Pro didn't update for almost 3 years. Mac Pro finally updated after 6 years!

What Apple is doing for Mac desktop is such a disaster.
 
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Why doesn't apple come up with an arrangement to sell macOS/iPadOS compatible motherboards to such third party computer makers/sellers. Perhaps they could also market variants of their operating systems for such third part devices. Such an arrangement can still generate revenue for Apple and also broaden their user base.
 
Why doesn't apple come up with an arrangement to sell macOS/iPadOS compatible motherboards to such third party computer makers/sellers. Perhaps they could also market variants of their operating systems for such third part devices. Such an arrangement can still generate revenue for Apple and also broaden their user base.

Because it would, in net, lose them money. And people who buy those things would still want support from apple, but apple would not have made enough margin on them to pay for it. And they tried that in the 1990s and it nearly put them out of business. And that business model doesn’t make any money - look at what’s happened to Microsoft Windows revenues and look how android, despite having all the market share, has none of the profits.
 
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There are other options available for iMac if they don't consider it as a desktop. Most AIO desktops use mobile CPU and/or GPU btw. AMD APU would be a great option since it has a powerful GPU but at this point, I highly doubt it since they are moving to ARM architecture. iMac is rumored to have RX 5700 which has TDP 180W. For that, you need a huge cooler. And yet iMac has to sacrifice its performance due to high temperature. Both CPU and GPU are connected with one heat sink and then cooled by one fan. It's such a bad design for the cooling solution. You must check the size of both CPU and GPU coolers for PC desktops.

If they gonna sacrifice the performance for AIO desktops, then why not making a normal desktop like Mac Pro? It's a simple solution and yet Apple is going a hard way to create a desktop. PC desktops are much cheaper with better cooling solutions. This is something that I can not understand for several years.

This is why Mac desktop isn't popular especially compared to PC desktops in the world.
To sum it up, they are simply design over function.
 
you completely glazed over the point I made that people that build a hack Mac are not going to buy a Mac anyway.
I dunno... From like 2008 - 2011 3 different Hackintosh machines were only only experiences with MacOS. That hooked me... along with the excitement of the iPhone and how great the ecosystem was. In 2011, I bought my first real Mac (iMac) and have been buying Macs since... So you can say I became a paying Apple Mac customer BECAUSE of the Hackintosh scene.
 
Someone please tell me I'm not the only one who thinks this entire operation is fake top to bottom?

Amateur looking site, unclear and poorly written verbiage, cryptocurrency, and stealing an established name + logo with good reuptation (OpenCore) to trick customers into trusting it. Not 1:1 but it reminds me of the ongoing Escobar phone scam operation (watch Marques Brownlee's video if you haven't seen it).

My bet is the site will run for a month or two taking people's money for preorders. Then once they're satisfied with the earnings, they'll disappear without a trace, no product having ever existed. But the use of cryptocurrency would make payment proof or claims impossible.

Running the photo through Foto Forensics even seems to indicate the logo was edited on.

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I sure hope Apple shuts that HACKINTOSH OS called Catalina down! :D

As far as reliability, my Power Computing machine never died. It's only gone because PowerPC died.

I sparked so many Apple Power Mac logic boards with those damn AGP cards where Apple had the pins different to screw you over on buying anything of reasonable cost. So I'm not a big Apple fan on this particular topic. I feel like if people want to risk not having the T1 chip or other Apple chips for security reasons, let them play with fire if they want. It's not like we're kids anymore. I also think Apple should consider starting to CHARGE a FEE again for Mac OS if you don't buy a computer from them. Gee, it worked for Bill Gates. Maybe some Windows users might actually buy a copy from Apple if it was any good?
Just food for thought.

But finally, I have to wonder, why did I think of David Pirinelli in West LA when I saw this post? :p
 
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Skeptical about the legitimacy of this, but in the end I do hope that eventually someone comes along and beats Apple in court about the legality of building clones. It would simply be great to have competition in the Mac hardware market. Imagine how fast Apple would have fixed that damned keyboard if there had been an alternative Mac OS compatible laptop for sale that had a keyboard that wasn't a piece of crap? But Apple has a lock on the hardware market (unless you are really fringe and want to cobble together your own Hackintosh) and thus were able to continue selling laptops with fundamentally unsuited for purpose keyboards for, what was it, 5 years? Something like that! Look at what's happening with GPUs and CPUs, as soon as AMD really got their act together Nvidia and Intel have had to step it up too; or reduce pricing. Competition is good, and it would be good for all of us is Apple had even a little bit of competition when it comes to Mac OS based computers.

For the past 10 years, Apple has sold about 16-20 million Macs per year. That’s about 6% of the market. It would be hard to win an anti-trust lawsuit against a company that has 6% market share. Granted, it is a bigger share of the premium market (since the cheapest full Mac system starts at $999 before discounts), but it is still a very high hurdle.
 
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