I agree. One of the best sellings point for the iPhone is the Safari browser. I don't think Apple is letting Opera in anytime soon.
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Opera Submits Browser App to Apple, Starts Countdown
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I agree. One of the best sellings point for the iPhone is the Safari browser. I don't think Apple is letting Opera in anytime soon.
I'm not sure this is a good idea.
Opera becomes a giant proxy server, i.e. all your pages have to transit through the Opera servers bandwidth and may be recorded.
So there are a performance issue (with large users base) and a privacy issue.
Opera becomes a giant proxy server, i.e. all your pages have to transit through the Opera servers bandwidth and may be recorded.
So there are a performance issue (with large users base) and a privacy issue.
They do allow duplication of other apps such as Mail on the iPhone, so we can still hope.
Opera is promoting their browser very cleverly, with the countdown timer and the chance to win an iPhone. If Apple rejects it, it could generate quite a fuss.
I wonder how Jobs will react when he sees the ad. It conveys very clearly the message that Opera's browser is much faster than Safari. It wouldn't surprise me if Steve will take it personal and reject the app himself. Which I think would be a mistake. We'll see, though.
I wonder how Jobs will react when he sees the ad. It conveys very clearly the message that Opera's browser is much faster than Safari. It wouldn't surprise me if Steve will take it personal and reject the app himself. Which I think would be a mistake. We'll see, though.
i'd like to see it approved...no problem with more variety and a bit of competition to mobile safari.
but i question opera's handling of this...apple doesn't like to be shown up and put on the spot, and i reckon that the approval will either take a LONG time or it will be flat denied.
but i question opera's handling of this...apple doesn't like to be shown up and put on the spot, and i reckon that the approval will either take a LONG time or it will be flat denied.
And what is new? Your ISP also records your traffic, Google analyzes your searches and the NSA records everything just in case.
No matter what you use, you are being observed. Despite everything our politicians are publicly saying, the Internet is the most controlled communication medium today.
Looks good. I'd definitely give it a shot.
I say 1 day 2 hours 10 min 15 sec.
I'll take my 3Gs now.
I say 1 day 2 hours 10 min 15 sec.
I'll take my 3Gs now.
I wonder if it is possible to display flash content, since it renders everything on the server, it may be able to show the animation on the screen, just not actually process the video on the phone itself.
This looks very promising. Maybe Apple will do this same type of thing with iPhone Safari since they are building their huge data center in NC for cloud computing.
I'm going to guess Apple will approve it, but there might be some back and forth on minor changes first.
The local code execution isn't an issue. It does duplicate existing functionality, but I think that's a baloney argument and if Apple uses it here they'll be thrown to the gallows. I think security is the biggest question. Apple may insist on Opera reminding users that all their data gets pushed through Opera's servers.
The other questions I have are technical - how does it deal (if at all) with in-page Javascript actions? There were none in the demo. Anything from swapping DIVs to ajax calls. If it can't do Javascript it won't be very useful. A cool technology demo but not relevant.
The local code execution isn't an issue. It does duplicate existing functionality, but I think that's a baloney argument and if Apple uses it here they'll be thrown to the gallows. I think security is the biggest question. Apple may insist on Opera reminding users that all their data gets pushed through Opera's servers.
The other questions I have are technical - how does it deal (if at all) with in-page Javascript actions? There were none in the demo. Anything from swapping DIVs to ajax calls. If it can't do Javascript it won't be very useful. A cool technology demo but not relevant.
No. In order for a web browser to support Flash, the Flash plugin has to be created for the iPhone. Apple isn't allowing this, so there won't be Flash.
The NSA most certainly does not record everything that happens on the internet. There isn't a database in the world big enough for such a task. lol
That's like the people who think that all of our phones calls are being listened to every day. Like the NSA has 200 million employees sitting on phone tapping devices all day long. lol
Looks great! Sure hope it's approved. Yes there may be a privacy issue in the big picture, but for sites in that bracket - I'll just use safari.
However 90% of the other sites I browse daily on my phone I just need to load fast - especially over the cell networks - and this looks like a sweet app to use for them.
And I really hope Apple don't go looking for holes to try and reject it...The server-side rendering eliminates the interpreted code issue, and they've let plenty of other 'web browser' apps in (even if they're just wrapped webkit views).
However 90% of the other sites I browse daily on my phone I just need to load fast - especially over the cell networks - and this looks like a sweet app to use for them.
And I really hope Apple don't go looking for holes to try and reject it...The server-side rendering eliminates the interpreted code issue, and they've let plenty of other 'web browser' apps in (even if they're just wrapped webkit views).
Apple should really approve OperaMini and let people try it, so they'll realize how backwards these cached and compressed websites are, with most AJAX websites not working. Opera's most effective punishment for this obvious publicity stunt would be for millions of iPhone users trying, then dumping this crap. Having some nice 2.5 star average rating on the AppStore, for the world to see.
Me too, especially since the Gizmodo people are saying it makes edge a lot more bearable.
Have you ever paid for a web browser in your life? These companies all want you to use their web browser because they make a lot of money from you using their search functions and ads generated from your use of it all.
FFS, it barely even supports JAVASCRIPT. This would have been a great piece of technology back when everybody was using slow-ass phones on EDGE; now, it seems like an advertising hack looking for a reason to exist.
This looks like an awesome idea! I will definitely be getting it if Apple approves it. I wonder if there's a point in getting it for the iPod Touch, as it only has WiFi. Probably! My universities WiFi network is so weak and so slow that I think this could be very useful.
I don't care about privacy, what the hell would Opera do with the web pages I visited? Send emails to my friends telling them that I played Robot Unicorn Attack, and how gay that is?
I don't care about privacy, what the hell would Opera do with the web pages I visited? Send emails to my friends telling them that I played Robot Unicorn Attack, and how gay that is?
That's because apple will not build it into their browser.
This is supposidly a browser built from the ground up.
Anyhow, I knew it probably didn't, but if they really wanted to shake things up they should have built in flash support heh.