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My 2 iPads charge to 80% and stops even though they have no toggle. The 11 pro toggle is on but I don’t see it working. :(
 
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Mine seems to be working ok. Charges up to 80% when I plug in then stays at that until about 6am which is 2 hours before I wake.


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Just use it normally and you’ll be fine, the paranoia is absurd and utterly insane. The benefits of all these ridiculous techniques will be so minuscule you won’t even notice them in real use.

My friend still uses a 3GS for running, never replaced the battery and guess what? Works fine despite a decade of use where it was a daily driver for other people in the family until 2017.


Just enjoy the the thing and don’t worry about it, by the time the battery is noticeably worse chances are you won’t be using it and even if you are then I’d say the $70 for a replacement is a small price to pay for being able to enjoy using the thing normally for so long
 
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Just use it normally and you’ll be fine, the paranoia is absurd and utterly insane. The benefits of all these ridiculous techniques will be so minuscule you won’t even notice them in real use.
Setting an alarm in the middle of the night to unplug is the best one :D
 
Just use it normally and you’ll be fine, the paranoia is absurd and utterly insane. The benefits of all these ridiculous techniques will be so minuscule you won’t even notice them in real use.

My friend still uses a 3GS for running, never replaced the battery and guess what? Works fine despite a decade of use where it was a daily driver for other people in the family until 2017.

Just enjoy the the thing and don’t worry about it, by the time the battery is noticeably worse chances are you won’t be using it and even if you are then I’d say the $70 for a replacement is a small price to pay for being able to enjoy using the thing normally for so long

Bravo!
Hot the nail on the head.
I don't see why people stress so much over battery health. It WILL degrade over time, no matter what. Yes, some will degrade faster then others, but should you really let that stress you out and affect the enjoyment of your device??
I usually keep a device for a year, sometimes two, and pass them down to family members. Ive never had any issues with batteries and I simply plug in my phone and charge to 100% whenever Im at my desk at work - so very irregularly. I have no interest in this 'Optimised Charging', even though its on Ive never even bothered to check whether its working or not. My old iPhone 6s Plus, which is now used by my daughter, is just now showing some signs of requiring battery replacement, which after all these years of use, I am happy to now pay for!
 
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My 2 iPads charge to 80% and stops even though they have no toggle. The 11 pro toggle is on but I don’t see it working. :(
As far as I know, there is no optimized charging on iPad 🤔
Are you sure ???
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Bravo!
Hot the nail on the head.
I don't see why people stress so much over battery health. It WILL degrade over time, no matter what. Yes, some will degrade faster then others, but should you really let that stress you out and affect the enjoyment of your device??
I usually keep a device for a year, sometimes two, and pass them down to family members. Ive never had any issues with batteries and I simply plug in my phone and charge to 100% whenever Im at my desk at work - so very irregularly. I have no interest in this 'Optimised Charging', even though its on Ive never even bothered to check whether its working or not. My old iPhone 6s Plus, which is now used by my daughter, is just now showing some signs of requiring battery replacement, which after all these years of use, I am happy to now pay for!
Degrading faster or slower. That’s the whole point of discussion.
I don’t care about anecdotal evidence in your experience. You were lucky, good for you.
But it makes a difference over a 3 years time span. That’s the reason why Apple introduced this functionality.
I’m trying to understand why it is not working as designed.
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Just use it normally and you’ll be fine, the paranoia is absurd and utterly insane. The benefits of all these ridiculous techniques will be so minuscule you won’t even notice them in real use.

My friend still uses a 3GS for running, never replaced the battery and guess what? Works fine despite a decade of use where it was a daily driver for other people in the family until 2017.


Just enjoy the the thing and don’t worry about it, by the time the battery is noticeably worse chances are you won’t be using it and even if you are then I’d say the $70 for a replacement is a small price to pay for being able to enjoy using the thing normally for so long
Again, anecdotal experiences about magical batteries working for 10 years (almost chemically impossible...) doesn’t count too much for me.

I’m enjoying the thing, but I’d like to preserve battery health as much as I can, because even if I’m planing to replace the battery in a midlife upgrade, it would be better to be after 24 months instead of 18 months, for instance.

The all meaning of “optimized charging” option is there.
Why is it not working ? I don’t really know... 🤷🏻‍♂️
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Mine seems to be working ok. Charges up to 80% when I plug in then stays at that until about 6am which is 2 hours before I wake.


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That’s exactly how it works on my wife and son’s iPhone, so yes, your is working as designed.
 
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Simple fix: don't charge it in the evening.

You have an iPhone 11 Pro so the battery should last for a fairly long time anyway as it's a new phone. Unless you're using ti constantly throughout the day for hours and hours and hours then there should be no need to always charge at night.

I charge my phone (iPhone 11) whenever it gets low, around about 20% to 5% and I try and charge up to anywhere in the high 80% mark and then unplug it from the charger.

It should last for at least a few days that way. I get about 2 to 3 days on my iPhone by doing this. Granted I would always charge my SE to 100% and I had to charge it about every 1 and half days, sometimes less if used more.
 
It has never worked with mine either. Oddly enough, my Model 3 can do this without issue. Apple has many more years of software development under their belt yet Tesla can accomplish this? Cmon Apple...
 
As far as I know, there is no optimized charging on iPad 🤔
Are you sure ???
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Degrading faster or slower. That’s the whole point of discussion.
I don’t care about anecdotal evidence in your experience. You were lucky, good for you.
But it makes a difference over a 3 years time span. That’s the reason why Apple introduced this functionality.
I’m trying to understand why it is not working as designed.
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Again, anecdotal experiences about magical batteries working for 10 years (almost chemically impossible...) doesn’t count too much for me.

I’m enjoying the thing, but I’d like to preserve battery health as much as I can, because even if I’m planing to replace the battery in a midlife upgrade, it would be better to be after 24 months instead of 18 months, for instance.

The all meaning of “optimized charging” option is there.
Why is it not working ? I don’t really know... 🤷🏻‍♂️
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That’s exactly how it works on my wife and son’s iPhone, so yes, your is working as designed.

Almost impossible? I have an iPod mini from 2004 with an original battery that works fine. It’s not anecdotal evidence, it’s a fact that batteries don’t degrade nearly as fast as you or others seem to think they do unless under extreme conditions or in the case of simply having a bad battery.

The main reason why many laptops for example tend to have dead batteries after a short amount of time is simply because they get incredibly hot and can be plugged in for weeks or months at a time. Your iPhone being at 100% for a few hours without you using it won’t do anything of real significance.


The level of fear mongering that the media has installed in to people is insane.
 
Simple fix: don't charge it in the evening.

You have an iPhone 11 Pro so the battery should last for a fairly long time anyway as it's a new phone. Unless you're using ti constantly throughout the day for hours and hours and hours then there should be no need to always charge at night.

I charge my phone (iPhone 11) whenever it gets low, around about 20% to 5% and I try and charge up to anywhere in the high 80% mark and then unplug it from the charger.

It should last for at least a few days that way. I get about 2 to 3 days on my iPhone by doing this. Granted I would always charge my SE to 100% and I had to charge it about every 1 and half days, sometimes less if used more.
That’s not the point of the thread.
I know many solution for the “issue” (which isn’t really an issue).
But the software feature isn’t working as designed for many of us.
That’s the point.
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Almost impossible? I have an iPod mini from 2004 with an original battery that works fine. It’s not anecdotal evidence, it’s a fact that batteries don’t degrade nearly as fast as you or others seem to think they do unless under extreme conditions or in the case of simply having a bad battery.

The main reason why many laptops for example tend to have dead batteries after a short amount of time is simply because they get incredibly hot and can be plugged in for weeks or months at a time. Your iPhone being at 100% for a few hours without you using it won’t do anything of real significance.


The level of fear mongering that the media has installed in to people is insane.
You can believe whatever please you, but this is my field, and what you are saying is chemically impossible.
Your iPad’s battery is degraded, no matter what you believe. It could “works fine” for you, but it is far from the original capacity (and by the way, ipad batteries are another “beast”, since they are bigger than iPhone’s ).
 
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My 2 iPads charge to 80% and stops even though they have no toggle. The 11 pro toggle is on but I don’t see it working. :(
I actually think this should be a choice for lighter users. There was an Android app that could do it, but I don't know if any exist for iOS.
 
It works for me. After a couple of weeks learning charge pattern. See last night. YMMV.
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If it works, it works for everybody. This is not the case, so it is broken.

You wouldn’t let an airplane fly with software that only works for a few?
 
Another 11 Pro here on which optimized charging has never worked. I've had it turned on since I got this phone and my sleep schedule is about as regular as it can get.
 
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That’s not the point of the thread.
I know many solution for the “issue” (which isn’t really an issue).
But the software feature isn’t working as designed for many of us.
That’s the point.
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You can believe whatever please you, but this is my field, and what you are saying is chemically impossible.
Your iPad’s battery is degraded, no matter what you believe. It could “works fine” for you, but it is far from the original capacity (and by the way, ipad batteries are another “beast”, since they are bigger than iPhone’s ).

This is your field? I’ve worked in IT for the government, I have a strong level of knowledge in regards to how batteries age and react because I was constantly working with and replacing them. The batteries that actually needed replacing were ones which were simply permantly plugged in 99% of the time for months on end and exposed to extreme heat because the cooling was insufficient.

Also iPad? I said iPod mini which has a far smaller battery then any iPhone and it works fine, near to what it did when it was new. It’s not exactly like it was when it was new but we are talking a decade and a half here, it still plays music for several hours on end.

How much do you think these silly ridiculous techniques will save you in regards to battery life? Spoiler: Nothing noticeable unless you keep doing this for a decade.

You say this is your field yet you are obviously sourcing your information from any trashy clickbait news source. The statement of that it is chemically impossibly for a battery to perform in such a manner is proof of that.

Just enjoy your iPhone and stop worrying
 
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There should be a power-strip with a timer on it.

You could set it for a couple hours when you charge your phone at night. Then it will turn off and stop charging.

Seems easy enough! :p
 
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There should be a power-strip with a timer on it.

You could set it for a couple hours when you charge your phone at night. Then it will turn off and stop charging.

Seems easy enough! :p
I think those have existed for a couple years now (app controlled via wifi).
 
This is your field? I’ve worked in IT for the government, I have a strong level of knowledge in regards to how batteries age and react because I was constantly working with and replacing them. The batteries that actually needed replacing were ones which were simply permantly plugged in 99% of the time for months on end and exposed to extreme heat because the cooling was insufficient.

Also iPad? I said iPod mini which has a far smaller battery then any iPhone and it works fine, near to what it did when it was new. It’s not exactly like it was when it was new but we are talking a decade and a half here, it still plays music for several hours on end.

How much do you think these silly ridiculous techniques will save you in regards to battery life? Spoiler: Nothing noticeable unless you keep doing this for a decade.

You say this is your field yet you are obviously sourcing your information from any trashy clickbait news source. The statement of that it is chemically impossibly for a battery to perform in such a manner is proof of that.

Just enjoy your iPhone and stop worrying
Again you can believe whatever please you and claim to be whatever you want.
that doesn’t change the fact you are giving uninformed advices about batteries.
it doesn’t take a decade to ruin a relatively small battery, and the fact that Apple itself introduced the functionality is here to prove you wrong.
 
It’s not consistent. Does it work? To a degree, but Apple needs tweaking here to make it more efficient and regulated

Yes it’s weird isn’t it? Personally it works for me and all family members. But completely understand frustration of people here on forum for whom it’s not working, especially those with regular charging patterns which apples machine learning algorithm ought to work for easily.
 
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