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Orange Announces UK iPhone Pricing
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haha that has to be the worst orange deal ever, not to mention their less than acceptable customer service - even in comparison to o2 i pitty anyone who ends up with them.
I'll be keeping my £20 600min and 1200txt (eu wide) and unltd data tariff though thanks I like my Nokia's ^^
I'll be keeping my £20 600min and 1200txt (eu wide) and unltd data tariff though thanks I like my Nokia's ^^
Orange doesn't need to draw custom from other providers. All it needs to do is to prevent any haemorrhaging of its own customer base towards O2.
Ding, ding! We have a winner. I am lucky if I manage more than 70MB a month.
On the orange front page. Just click @ the top where it says iPhone coming soon & all the tarrifs are there, then call customer services. (the guy I spoke to was a diehard Mac fan!)
I'm an O2 iPhone customer and haven't had any real issues. I use 3G a fair bit for web browsing, facebook, a few downloads from the iTunes store and haven't ever had a problem with bandwidth usage.
I was hoping, however, that Orange would undercut O2's pricing; create a bit of competition and offer some better deals. Sadly, it seems that it isn't to be.
I am actually fairly annoyed that in attempting to match O2's tariffs, Orange have had the audacity to advertise their iPhone plans as including 'Unlimited Data' usage, when it's actually 750MB. I will leave the discussion of how far 750MB goes to others on this forum but I think we would all agree that 'Unlimited' it is not.
As such, I have reported Orange's advertisements to the Advertising Standards Authority and I urge any current or potential iPhone customers to do the same. Mobile operators, or any other companies for that matter, should not be allowed to say one thing then instantly contradict themselves in the smallprint.
With a bit of luck the ASA will ban Orange from using the term 'Unlimited' which, in turn, may either force Orange to up their bandwidth limits or prices. I personally hope it's the latter as different companies offering different prices and packages is the only way competition can be encouraged.
I was hoping, however, that Orange would undercut O2's pricing; create a bit of competition and offer some better deals. Sadly, it seems that it isn't to be.
I am actually fairly annoyed that in attempting to match O2's tariffs, Orange have had the audacity to advertise their iPhone plans as including 'Unlimited Data' usage, when it's actually 750MB. I will leave the discussion of how far 750MB goes to others on this forum but I think we would all agree that 'Unlimited' it is not.
As such, I have reported Orange's advertisements to the Advertising Standards Authority and I urge any current or potential iPhone customers to do the same. Mobile operators, or any other companies for that matter, should not be allowed to say one thing then instantly contradict themselves in the smallprint.
With a bit of luck the ASA will ban Orange from using the term 'Unlimited' which, in turn, may either force Orange to up their bandwidth limits or prices. I personally hope it's the latter as different companies offering different prices and packages is the only way competition can be encouraged.
I was hoping for some competitive pricing. I know that where I live Orange has constant 3g whereas o2 doesn't.
With those prices and ridiculous T&C I think I'll stick with o2 for now. Lets see what Vodafone brings to the table, will probably be the same, or very similar.
With regards to the unlocking I had it confirmed by 1 of my old o2 store managers, (was an area manager for o2). He confirmed it will be available from the date Orange start selling the iphone.
Is kind of handy as I have a spare 3g iphone so can test out Orange and Vodafone sims for 3g and general reception in my area and compare them to o2.
With those prices and ridiculous T&C I think I'll stick with o2 for now. Lets see what Vodafone brings to the table, will probably be the same, or very similar.
With regards to the unlocking I had it confirmed by 1 of my old o2 store managers, (was an area manager for o2). He confirmed it will be available from the date Orange start selling the iphone.
Is kind of handy as I have a spare 3g iphone so can test out Orange and Vodafone sims for 3g and general reception in my area and compare them to o2.
Are an area manager for a chain of Apple resellers? If so, I think you were talking to me
Also, rumour has it (total rumour, no inside info here) that O2 are about to reintroduce the 250mb cap for new and upgrading customers.
I hate to say this....
but i have been a major iPhone fanboy but when i see things like this article i am very seriously thinking about goign to android, with the new motorola.
My thinking is this:
1-it was after doing a clean install of SL that i found a whole load of apps that wouldn't copy over onto my updated 3g iphone. After that i realised i didnt use these apps that much. Its just a great way for apple to make money!.
2- Im not a fan of how much of a monopoly the whole iphone owning is. Sure maybe at every june/july refresh the OS might actually have the things other phones have done for years (MMS anyone?), and the hardware also is a bit lacking (camera) i really feel the shine is starting to dull on the iphone, especially when you look at the costs of ownership.
but i have been a major iPhone fanboy but when i see things like this article i am very seriously thinking about goign to android, with the new motorola.
My thinking is this:
1-it was after doing a clean install of SL that i found a whole load of apps that wouldn't copy over onto my updated 3g iphone. After that i realised i didnt use these apps that much. Its just a great way for apple to make money!.
2- Im not a fan of how much of a monopoly the whole iphone owning is. Sure maybe at every june/july refresh the OS might actually have the things other phones have done for years (MMS anyone?), and the hardware also is a bit lacking (camera) i really feel the shine is starting to dull on the iphone, especially when you look at the costs of ownership.
Using orange sim on PAYG phone
I wonder if then that now the iphone is going to come to Orange and perhaps other networks, any phone bought at the Apple store as PAYG will be unlockable to these networks?
Im quite happy to stay with O2, even though i think the tarrifs are absolutely S***!!!! Though my friend was originally with Orange and wants to got back to them....any thoughts?
I wonder if then that now the iphone is going to come to Orange and perhaps other networks, any phone bought at the Apple store as PAYG will be unlockable to these networks?
Im quite happy to stay with O2, even though i think the tarrifs are absolutely S***!!!! Though my friend was originally with Orange and wants to got back to them....any thoughts?
I use my iPhone every second of the day and looking at my data Ive used 900MB since July
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Question: can you buy the Orange phone in an Apple store just like you can an o2 phone, and then have it activated on Orange?
Question: can you buy the Orange phone in an Apple store just like you can an o2 phone, and then have it activated on Orange?
That is ridiculous. You know what, I am on an old Orange contract - £20/month gets me, believe it or not, Unlimited Texts, 800 Minutes and Unlimited email. They're going to charge iPhone users £122/month for the same? I'm sorry but who on Earth pays that much a month for a phone. Ridiculous.
I wish carriers would actually spend some of their income on a dictionary. Unlimited means;
1. not limited; unrestricted; unconfined
2. boundless; infinite; vast
3. without any qualification or exception; unconditional.
Applying a 750 Mb / month fair use policy (also known as cap, download limit or legal get out of Jail for free card) does not equal unlimited / infinite.
When will a test case be filed against these feable carriers.
When 3G first appeared in the UK, I took out a contract with Vodafone. Unwittingly I signed up to a limited download service of 50 Mb/month, with scaled tariffs afterwards which was worded in packets per billing time period. It was only when I inadvertantly downloaded podcasts through the network rather than WiFi did I realise that this equated to over £1,200 per hour.
Only after threats of reporting them to Ofcom for having a service many times more expensive than premium rate numbers did I manage to persuade them to common sense.
During the many conversations I was told about how much the 3G licences cost (yes, it was my fault that they spend billions!!), how many millions of pounds each data router costs (really!!?!!), how they have to pay their data network suppliers £10 per mbyte per second to carry data between basestations and their core network!. They forgot that their profit figures were available to the public, and that salaries of senior management has also been documented.
I'm hoping that Vodafone will actually have a sensible pricing policy. Although I love the iPhone, I will stick the the iPod Touch and a Nokia 3G handset for now. Only once that I'm not going to be shelling out close to £1,000 for a phone will I move to the iPhone.
Rant over!!
1. not limited; unrestricted; unconfined
2. boundless; infinite; vast
3. without any qualification or exception; unconditional.
Applying a 750 Mb / month fair use policy (also known as cap, download limit or legal get out of Jail for free card) does not equal unlimited / infinite.
When will a test case be filed against these feable carriers.
When 3G first appeared in the UK, I took out a contract with Vodafone. Unwittingly I signed up to a limited download service of 50 Mb/month, with scaled tariffs afterwards which was worded in packets per billing time period. It was only when I inadvertantly downloaded podcasts through the network rather than WiFi did I realise that this equated to over £1,200 per hour.
Only after threats of reporting them to Ofcom for having a service many times more expensive than premium rate numbers did I manage to persuade them to common sense.
During the many conversations I was told about how much the 3G licences cost (yes, it was my fault that they spend billions!!), how many millions of pounds each data router costs (really!!?!!), how they have to pay their data network suppliers £10 per mbyte per second to carry data between basestations and their core network!. They forgot that their profit figures were available to the public, and that salaries of senior management has also been documented.
I'm hoping that Vodafone will actually have a sensible pricing policy. Although I love the iPhone, I will stick the the iPod Touch and a Nokia 3G handset for now. Only once that I'm not going to be shelling out close to £1,000 for a phone will I move to the iPhone.
Rant over!!
I've got a Nokia N95 8GB which I don't use too heavily. I updated the firmware at the end of August which reset the data counter. Currently at 3.6 Gbytes and I don't use it for iPlayer, youtube, podcasts or anything particularly heavy on the network. I only use Wifi for these.
On a similar note, whilst recovering from a serious illness, I was housebound for most of July, August and September. My ADSL provider has warned me twice that I've exceeded a 100 Gbytes per month Fair Use Policy. However, when I asked where their tools were to allow me to check on usage throughout the month, they accepted that by not having facilities to allow customers to monitor usage, the fair use policy was un-enforcable.
I would leave O2 for Orange!! On my iPhone with O2 I get no 3G, no edge, and weak 2 coverage. Orange don't have a 3G signal in my area but they have full 5 bars of edge. (Whats the point in having unlimited data on O2 if you can't use it?)
At least with Orange I would be able to make a phone call and not expect the call to be cut.
I use the unlimited wifi on my O2 iPhone from time to time but its been on BT openzone never found a cloud site.
As the price plans are so similar between o2 and Orange I wonder is Apple in some way setting them? I expect that Vodafone will offer the same sort of deal.
All the big texters who were put off by o2 removing the unlimited text bolt on from their iPhone packages have an out with orange's business plans.
You can add unlimited texts (3000 per month FUP) to any iPhone business contract for £6.36 per month
Business contracts:
http://interest.orange.co.uk/?linkf...ticle=todaypage09leftnavorangeshop#iPhoneBUSS
T's and C's:
http://www.business.orange.co.uk/servlet/Satellite?c=OUKPage&cid=1255587394267&pagename=Business
So yes, prices are very similar to O2's, but I think they are a lot more flexible on their combinations. I can finally consider getting a 3GS now without fear of a triple figure bill every month.
You can add unlimited texts (3000 per month FUP) to any iPhone business contract for £6.36 per month
Business contracts:
http://interest.orange.co.uk/?linkf...ticle=todaypage09leftnavorangeshop#iPhoneBUSS
T's and C's:
http://www.business.orange.co.uk/servlet/Satellite?c=OUKPage&cid=1255587394267&pagename=Business
So yes, prices are very similar to O2's, but I think they are a lot more flexible on their combinations. I can finally consider getting a 3GS now without fear of a triple figure bill every month.
Sadly, everyone. We here in the UK get royally screwed on stuff like this.
ADSL is offered as "up to 8MB/sec" yet you could get as low as 256k depending on your 'phone line and distance from the exchange and many are offered as "unlimited" data yet have a "Fair Usage Policy" tacked on which imposes a limit - often quite low in the grand scheme of things.
The so-called telecoms regulator - OfCom - is worse than useless and seems to be more interested in looking after the interests of the industry than the consumer.
We have a phrase for this, Rip-off Britain
I'm wiht Vodaphone so waiting to see what they offer.
Sadly, everyone. We here in the UK get royally screwed on stuff like this.
ADSL is offered as "up to 8MB/sec" yet you could get as low as 256k depending on your 'phone line and distance from the exchange and many are offered as "unlimited" data yet have a "Fair Usage Policy" tacked on which imposes a limit - often quite low in the grand scheme of things.
The so-called telecoms regulator - OfCom - is worse than useless and seems to be more interested in looking after the interests of the industry than the consumer.
We have a phrase for this, Rip-off Britain
I'm wiht Vodaphone so waiting to see what they offer.
Dont get your hopes up with Vodafone.