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Orange Announces UK iPhone Pricing
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Perhaps they didn't find out how bad the service was until they got their iPhone?
a cou[ple of points..
1/ I'm sure one of Orange, Voda or O2 would like to use price as a competitive advantage to secure a better share of the iphone market. That fact they don't (or are unlikely to ) is down to one thing... Apple.
Sure the networks leverage the handest's obvious popularity but ultimately the prices on all networks remain high because of the upfront cost that Apple asks for.
If O2 could generate the same amount of profit by selling the phone at a lower overall TCO then I'm sure they would.
2/ Network coverage on O2, in my experience is very reliant on the strength of the handset to receive the signal.
The iPhone (3G) is poor for this and i often used to lose signal completely on my journey home. Nokia's (even cheap ones) maintain the signal really well on the same journey.
so, before shouting at the networks for price and performance just remember that there may be other factors in play.
1/ I'm sure one of Orange, Voda or O2 would like to use price as a competitive advantage to secure a better share of the iphone market. That fact they don't (or are unlikely to ) is down to one thing... Apple.
Sure the networks leverage the handest's obvious popularity but ultimately the prices on all networks remain high because of the upfront cost that Apple asks for.
If O2 could generate the same amount of profit by selling the phone at a lower overall TCO then I'm sure they would.
2/ Network coverage on O2, in my experience is very reliant on the strength of the handset to receive the signal.
The iPhone (3G) is poor for this and i often used to lose signal completely on my journey home. Nokia's (even cheap ones) maintain the signal really well on the same journey.
so, before shouting at the networks for price and performance just remember that there may be other factors in play.
Just received this by email.
Thanks for getting in touch to know about unlocking your iPhone.
I'm sorry to know about your experience with our retention team. I understand this must be upsetting.
The level of service you received isn't the service we want our customers to receive. You're a valued customer and we appreciate your business with us. We always want to give you the best experience.
I understand your concern that you've already taken your PAC and wish to unlock your iPhones.
However, I'm sorry to inform you that currently it isn't possible to provide an unlatching code for your Apple iPhone. We are aware that Orange are going to be the new providers of the iPhone and we've been privileged to provide this service first.
As Matthew Key mentioned in the interview, we will allow O2 customers to unlock their iPhones. As soon as there is a process for unlocking your iPhones, we'll definitely update it on our website. You can then unlock you iPhones from our network.
I appreciate your patience in this matter.
I hope I've explained this clearly for you.
Beena
O2 Customer Service.
Telefonica O2 UK Limited, Registered in England No 1743099. Registered Office: 260 Bath Road, Slough, Berkshire SL1 4DX.
Nevermind the UK, here in Australia they're on every single network. It works fine! TUAW said a few weeks ago 1 in 5 Australian phones is an iPhone. You can even get the iPhone directly from Apple as a prepaid phone that's unlocked. Just need to activate it in iTunes with your existing SIM card.
What has clearly been demonstrated is that Apple is calling the shots and is running a price fixing cartel. That two entirely different companies can end up - over a 24 month contract, having a total cost that less than a pound different is highly suggestive.
I would expect Vodaphone to operate under the same iron Cupertino brandished fist.
I would expect Vodaphone to operate under the same iron Cupertino brandished fist.
archipellago have you never really wanted something so badly that you were happy to put up with its faults just to have it? I wanted an iPhone on contract not one that i had bought from ebay that I would have no help for if it broke. So I had no choice but to go with O2. Was not really an issue when I was working as I was in town every day. Now I don't work and am based at home so signal quality is more of an issue.
But surely that would be illegal?
Indeed it would be. Very, very illegal. Apple would be wise to be careful here, as the messages coming out of the carriers do give the appearance that this is what they are doing.
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According to anyone it does. No offense but please do some research before posting
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Well I was on Orange for a long time and was quite pleased with them (I'm in London) and used a hacked iPhone 2G with them. Then I ran to O2 when the iPhone 3G came out. I am now still on O2 with an iPhone 3GS. There's only one thing that I can say is that the combination of O2 and the iPhone 3GS is a pile of steaming turd... Lost connection, appaling 3G network and looking like a dick when I can't make a call or get any 3G connection and everyone else and their dog around me are happily using their phones productively!
I know the iPhone doesn't have a good reputation for holding onto a signal and I'm pretty sure the ***** O2 network doesn't help either! Most people I know who have an iPhone on O2 in London complain about the same issues...
Connectivity wise Nokias are much reliable.
So if only Apple could produce nice appealing shiny things AND make them technically sound at the same time we would at least move in the right direction!
Don't get me wrong I really enjoy the iPhone platform but sometimes it's a bitch...
I know the iPhone doesn't have a good reputation for holding onto a signal and I'm pretty sure the ***** O2 network doesn't help either! Most people I know who have an iPhone on O2 in London complain about the same issues...
Connectivity wise Nokias are much reliable.
So if only Apple could produce nice appealing shiny things AND make them technically sound at the same time we would at least move in the right direction!
Don't get me wrong I really enjoy the iPhone platform but sometimes it's a bitch...
I know the corps do it for business reasons, but I still don't understand why people don't get the iPhone unlocked and then make a separate decision about the carrier.
In Australia you can buy the phone unlocked from Apple and also get it from at least 3 or 4 major carriers on fair terms. If you don't like the network service at one of the carriers, whilst there might be some contractual obligations if you got a subsidised phone, it's easy to shift to a new network - often on a better deal.
The model of being forced to go with a network because they have the phone you want is insane, and does nothing to provoke real competition on price or service.
In Australia you can buy the phone unlocked from Apple and also get it from at least 3 or 4 major carriers on fair terms. If you don't like the network service at one of the carriers, whilst there might be some contractual obligations if you got a subsidised phone, it's easy to shift to a new network - often on a better deal.
The model of being forced to go with a network because they have the phone you want is insane, and does nothing to provoke real competition on price or service.
That's true, but unfortunately it's perfectly legal here. I think networks should be forced to sell only unlocked phones, but then the price of them would likely be considerably higher as 'punishment' for this.
Been with Orange for years, and refuse to join O2 after the stole my number (just took it from my account and then continually denied having it until I got an ombudsman involved) leaving me phoneless for several weeks as Orange and O2 argued about who had it.
I've waited and waited for Orange to get the iPhone and really hoped for a better deal than O2 offer. My reaction to these prices and absurd restrictions?
LOL!
No.
I've waited and waited for Orange to get the iPhone and really hoped for a better deal than O2 offer. My reaction to these prices and absurd restrictions?
LOL!
No.
Surely it's their money and can spend it how they please?
I only use about 100MB a month. I obviously am not worthy!
Orange's network is very very good indeed. I could get 3G reception here in Petersfield, whereas I can only get GPRS for o2
I just find the concept of .75GB too restrictive, particularly as I get the same restriction on WiFi. This could so easily be a Win instead I have to say FAIL!
But surely that would be illegal?
Completely illegal, in fact I may visit trading standards after Vodafone release their pricing if it is suspiciously similar.