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I don't think it's radical. I think it's silly. Because once you go down this route then you're going to have people of every possible race, religion, sexual orientation, political affiliation, vegan etc. etc. etc. ad naseum all clamouring to have their particular niche be included.

And as other have (rightly) pointed out there's so much more important things that need to be worked on.

How would you include emojis of different political orientations, dietary preferences,etc? Skin tone is common to everyone. Prior to this change, emojis only came in unrealistic yellow and Caucasian skin tones. That was "silly." Complaining about fixing that is "silly." Thinking the same team who adds new emojis is also able to fix other problems with Yosemite is "silly."
 
Because they are EMOJI. EMOTICONS. Root word: emotion. Not skin color, not race, not signifying "person", signifying emotion. If you think emotions are racially based, you have a problem.

Also, they should be fixing bugs, dammit!!

Just as an aside, the word "emoji" apparently does not share the same root as "emoticon" (that is, they are not related words). Instead, Emoji is a Japanese compound word, made up of E (picture) + Moji (characters).

That they look related is probably a happy coincidence. Which calls for a smiley. :)
 
Yosemite

So now we wait for the photo APP and emojis to be ready before we get the bugs fixed?
 
What is up with some of you people here. The article is talking about an Emoji upgrade. What makes you think Apple isn't working on fixing other things....and to be honest, this past update fixed quite a few bugs and Yosemite is running excellent for me and I use my Macs to run my business. A valium or camomile tea can be your friend greatly. :p

Well, I gave up on Apple as a business oriented OS when they decided to put all their emphasis on the mobile toys. I know it generates them massive revenue, but they left an entire segment of their userbase out in the cold. I ran several MacOS X based servers. That product was an absolute joke, and still is...actually even more so now. I'm running server version 3.x (don't remember which exact revision, but it's the latest on 10.9) and it's a child's toy compared to other *NIX based server operating systems. In fact, I moved all critical functionality off of OS X and migrated it over to Unix VM's.

So, in an admittedly judgmental wording: I suppose you don't get pissy about these things when you don't do "real" things with your Mac. I have real stuff to run, that needs real uptime, and uses industry accepted standards, not some weird faux-UNIX system with oddities left and right (like the nonstandard formatted Apache logs Apple uses that forced me to edit the regex for OSSEC monitoring). I see you say you run your business on your Macs. Hey, that's great, but I can speak from experience that their server offering is an effing joke that they should just pull already.

At first glance it's understandable that folks would say, "but obviously they are doing OTHER things besides emojis!" Well, their awful performance and poor track record over the last few YEARS makes me think otherwise. It does indeed seem like they are only putting effort into trivial items. Of course they do bug fixing, but it's extremely selective and they drag their feet forever getting these patches out that shouldn't have been problem to begin with.
 
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What is up with some of you people here. The article is talking about an Emoji upgrade. What makes you think Apple isn't working on fixing other things....and to be honest, this past update fixed quite a few bugs and Yosemite is running excellent for me and I use my Macs to run my business. A valium or camomile tea can be your friend greatly. :p

The point of us is that we do not want anybody working on EMOJI.
Before EMOJI the world was alive and okay and would deb without EMOJI.

Even the 2 people that are supposedly working on it are wasting time!

Yosemite has random freezes for me.
 
Man white people really hate it when companies cater to non-whites.

It's like the world is coming to an end for them. "How DARE they address issues for other races before my own needs! Me me me!"
 
Priorities...

Another bug they've got has to do with certain external Lacie thunderbolt drives causing the system to freeze/crash on sleep. But no -- that's piddly stuff Apple doesn't need to mention at all. Emoji!? Now that's serious!


Great to see Apple putting effort into emoji and not fixing the opendirectoryd bug...
 
What a stupid idea. I'm a minority and I don't feel one bit left of of this.

Some idiots are way too sensitive for their own good :confused:
 
Man white people really hate it when companies cater to non-whites.

It's like the world is coming to an end for them. "How DARE they address issues for other races before my own needs! Me me me!"

If emoji "skin" tone is at the top of your priority list as a minority, you have some seriously out of whack priorities.

I like how you're the only one here trying to race bait, folks, too. Great job. When you have no argument you resort to that, I see. Typical.
 
Well, I gave up on Apple as a business oriented OS when they decided to put all their emphasis on the mobile toys. I know it generates them massive revenue, but they left an entire segment of their userbase out in the cold. I ran several MacOS X based servers. That product was an absolute joke, and still is...actually even more so now. I'm running server version 3.x (don't remember which exact revision, but it's the latest on 10.9) and it's a child's toy compared to other *NIX based server operating systems. In fact, I moved all critical functionality off of OS X and migrated it over to Unix VM's.

Welcome to the new Apple.

You have to look at it as a business... Mac in the workplace is a very (unfortunately) TINY segment in Apple's business now. It's not that fewer businesses are using it, it's just that far more education and personal users are joining the brighter side of computing.

Apple is a business and has to target their consumer, and in this case they're doing that. I don't like it, but it's the way it is. Ironically, Microsoft went the same direction with Windows several years back and it ended up failing miserably, and now Microsoft is having to reinvent themselves and prove that they are serious about business users all over again.

I agree though... Apple seems to trying to be everything to everyone, and not focusing on what they're good at before moving on to the next project. If Apple is to succeed in the long run, they have to get back to basics. Make something better than anyone else. iOS 8 was a mess. Yosemite was a mess. Loyalists argue that most of the mess has been cleaned up, but in reality it hasn't. When you have huge swaths of users with WiFi bugs, Exchange woes, iMessage problems... these are all fundamental issues that every ounce of energy (not to mention PR) should be going toward resolving... but instead it's not. We're getting "Crackle" on Apple TV... and we're getting ethnic Emojis, and we get to chose between a sporty iWatch band and a Gold one... common Apple, realign with the principals that made you what you are today.
 
The point of us is that we do not want anybody working on EMOJI.
Before EMOJI the world was alive and okay and would deb without EMOJI.

Ahhhh, but soon we'll be able to visually illustrate all the "99.9% of people" claims slung around here with 5 to 6 different tinted emojis to help make our points: White emoji + Brown emoji + Red emoji + Blue emoji , etc all think Samsung is bad, bad, bad.

The .1% that differs is heliotrope emoji. But outed as a Samsung fan should lead to countless calls to "Die heliotrope emoji, Die!"

;)
 
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Then why were the realistic emoticons all white?

Edited: and as I said above, this has nothing to do with fixing bugs. Why would the person working on emojis be the same person fixing your wifi?
I can see you need to look up some words. The next two should be: joke. relax.

The first emoticons I ever saw were white because there were no color displays. And I still never confused them with my skin color because, see, it isn't "white". (and because it was an EMOTicon) It's more of a Light Salmon, according to HTML lists. And I've got a friend so dark that at night I can only see his teeth, but he is still very far from "black". Maybe you need to stop using such basic words to describe people. And then your emoticons will be happier. And you'd worry less about racism where it doesn't exist.
 
wow, y'all are seriously here screaming and crying about the fact that someone at Apple (out of the assumed myriads of people on the OS X team) is adding more of something you don't even use? "we were fine before emoji" but we were also fine, probably even better, before you started complaining about it

e: let MacRumors win JD Power and Associates' 2015 award for most cranky white dudes on a website
 
What a stupid idea. I'm a minority and I don't feel one bit left of of this.

I'm white, in fact, I'm pasty white. I feel like the current emojis misrepresent what I look like, so I'm posting my new set of emojis....

- happy
- sad
- tired
- kiss
- poop


Mac rumors uses a white background so it's hard to see, but I promise, my pasty white-self-representing emojis are there. heheh
 
Tim Cook is like Steve Ballmer nothing innovative as before for Mac just like Windows after Bill Gates and Paul Allen left. Sad that I was hoping more like Steve Jobs even though lot of people hated him but it least he was looking into the future.
 
Why worry about emoji?

I wish Apple would put a little color in their OS and not worry about emoji. The gray look Apple seems to enjoy forcing on us reminds me of the old black and white days of television, only more drab and boring.
 
Man white people really hate it when companies cater to non-whites.

It's like the world is coming to an end for them. "How DARE they address issues for other races before my own needs! Me me me!"

So, if I (a caucasian) send you a text with a caucasian emoji, is that racist since you aren't?
Or, is it racist if I send a text with whatever color emoji matches your skin since I'm not that color?

I'm confused because your hatred is random.
 
Perhaps Apple is very aware the vast majority of people on this fine planet are not caucasian.

Also we North Americans should be happy they do stuff like this. In about a decade or so, when North America is definitely NOT Apple's largest market, they will still put in features for our little corner of the world.


PS. I'm going to take a wild guess the handful of Apple employees working on this are not the same ones tackling deep rooted crashing memory issues.
 
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