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OS X 10.10 to Feature 'Flatter' Look, but Not as Stark as iOS 7

melendezest said:
Here you go:

http://www.journaldugeek.com/files/2014/01/mac-ios-7-0.jpg
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While this isn't terrible, I just don't get the big reasons for changes like this. We now have Retina capable Macs and we are moving back to "clip art" style icons?

I'm all for "deferring to content" and eliminating useless or over-the-top UI chrome (or wood shelves). But I like the photo-realistic icons and controls that Mac OS X had over the years. And shading and buttons/controls help people quickly find what they need.

And color! If there is one thing I'd want back in OS X, it is color. (yes, I have the hack to bring color back to finder sidebar)
 
It's already too flat. They should take design cues from a previous version (say, 10.6) for the sake of usability--for example, I've had occasions where I tried to look at the scroll bar to see where I was in the document and had to take a moment to actually find it visually. That's a UI fail, objectively speaking, no matter what you think of the design. Making everything flat removes helpful visual information, which is bad. Do you hear me, Apple? (And everyone else for that matter.) BAD! I can't wait until this flat, no-color fad becomes unfashionable.

Edit: coincidentally posted at the same time as sigamy. Yes, exactly what I'm saying. (And I have that color hack too....)

--Eric
 
steve333 said:
When you download an app you get something that looks like a hard drive and you have to click on that to open up an icon that you have to lick on in order to install it. Then you have 2 things on your desktop to trash.
I know it confuses a lot of people. My brother in law has these things all over the place because he's afraid to delete them.
Just automate the process to leave just what you need to click on to install it
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I see your point, but I don't know that it is necessarily worse than anyone else. Prior to downloading a DMG file you might download a ZIP file or a self-extracting executable; then when you double-click either one you get a folder of stuff including the program installer or, more traditionally on a Mac, instructions to drag the main application icon from that folder into your Applications folder. Then you delete the folder of stuff and then you delete the ZIP file that it came in. At best if the application was just one binary then you unzip the ZIP file and move the binary into Applications, then delete the ZIP file.

There is an option already to automate the process of mounting/opening DMGs, or opening documents including ZIP files, but that could lead to security risks...
 
JaySoul said:
Mavericks feels like a good balance right now.
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Yes! Apple's got it perfect right now. They dropped the ugliest elements (linen texture, skeuomorphic Calendar, Contacts, and Notes) and introduced tasteful transparency and dark greys. I hope that they won't over do it with white and tacky gradients everywhere.
 
Don't mess up OS X. It's changed progressively while retaining it's familiar look since 1984.
 
itguy06 said:
UGH!!!


Enough of this "Flat" ugliness already!!!!
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Maybe it's to save RAM/vRAM in 4GB Macbooks. These soldered modules are becoming a great innovation. In earlier Macs, a greater performance was achieved by developing great software for cheaper hardware. Now it seems that Apple is resurrecting this approach, which is great.

All we need is a clean full-featured GUI capable of running modern apps. We don't need wasting RAM to load textured backgrounds or using precious SSD storage to keep a lot of versions of wallpapers and textures.

Just make OSX leave 110GB out of 128GB of free space and we'll love OSX even more.
 
subsonix said:
Don't mess up OS X. It's changed progressively while retaining it's familiar look since 1984.
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I don't think that Apple intents to screw anything up. They know very well what they have to do with the Mac, just listen to their interviews and you will understand it.
 
Sven11 said:
I really don't get it why many people are so resistent to change, especially when the don't know how the end result will look like, and when they know they don't even test it. That's also the reason why many people are still working with stoneaged Windows XP. :rolleyes:
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Because in this case change is associated with breaking existing functionality and stability and backward compatibility. That's why.
 
petvas said:
I don't think that Apple intents to screw anything up. They know very well what they have to do with the Mac, just listen to their interviews and you will understand it.
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Of course they don't intend to screw up their product! That doesn't mean that they may not manage to do so anyway.
 
myrtlebee said:
For the tenth time, I am not talking about merging the two operating systems. I am talking about bringing a common design to each -- which was the case between OSX and iOS before iOS 7.
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Which is what the article states.

"I hope they make it exactly like iOS 7 for continuity's sake."

You're suggesting they make it exactly like iOS 7. There's honestly no reason. It can be kept different. Hints of flat here and there? Sure. Completely like iOS 7? No thank you.
 
All I want is a Finder that remembers window size, sidebar size, icon size and spacing in a logical, consistent way so that it's always the same regardless of what folder you open.

Also the ridiculous stupid confusing way you have to choose between Sort by and Arrange by, it never does what you expect and it sucks. Also when you use arrange by, every category only gets a single row of icons, making it impossible to, say, select all Image Files. You have to click "Show All" each time, and reopening the folder collapses the category again.

Finder needs a complete overhaul, it needs to be completely rethought and changed.

Also I don't want more stupid Open File dialogs each time I open Text Edit or Pages.
 
How about something like this?

osx10_10_concept_by_merzolin-d73z4yy.jpg
 
Apple can keep the stark white, flat imagery... It sucks!

This will be the first OSX upgrade I skip if this story proves true... I didn't even skip Mountain Lion, but I will avoid the flat, white look until they get it out of their system (literally).
 
petvas said:
There are also many icons in ios 7. The OS is evolving and Apple is trying to take care of any rough edges.
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There is progression and there is regression. Evolvement has no value in and of itself. Polishing the rough edges at this point means nothing but putting lipstick on a pig. iOS 7 needs another major UI redesign. OS X is just fine as it is.
 
JGRE said:
It is a shame that so much effort is put into nonessential cosmetics instead of into the development of the core system.
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There is no "instead". It would only be "instead" if the guys picking out fonts and creating textures and layouts were the same guys writing the code.

Rocketman said:
Because in this case change is associated with breaking existing functionality and stability and backward compatibility. That's why.
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Has there been a single rumor of a change that would break existing functionality or stability or compatibility? I haven't seen anything that gives that impression at all, they'll just tweak the look just like they always have done.
 
I don't think anyone is surprised about taking some of the design cues from iOS.

I hope they do look better though.
 
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