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"Control Center moves many of the controls from the Mac's Menu Bar to a pane that slides out from the left side of the Mac's display,..."

This better not interfere with or override program-based menu bars like All-In-One-Sidebar for Firefox.
 
It doesn't encrypt data at rest, but IMAP over SSL has been standard for a long time. Most email vendors, including Apple I believe, use opportunistic TLS to encrypt outgoing SMTP links. Nobody is getting your email without physical access to the receiving or sending machines.

You are right, I keep forgetting this is no longer the case (which tells you how old I am). I think I was sensitised by a recent article on The Safer Mac which re-iterated how on public WiFi a lot of data one is sending might not be encrypted.
 
All I want is an iCloud Drive app that functions like Dropbox. It's an iOS app and OS X app that lets me just drag and drop. Also, bump iCloud storage from 5 GB to 25GB.

But you already have that?! It's called Dropbox, it's free, stable and fast. Why want the same thing from Apple? Because you prefer slow sync, missing files, conflicting copies, ... Why would you trust your files with Apple knowing they will mess it up like they did with MobileMe, iDisk, iTunes Match, Photos Cloud Library, ... ???
 
So where in System Preferences do I enable it?

You don't, MAC is a kernel level framework on top of which sandboxing is implemented in OS X and iOS. It first appeared as a white paper, then as an experimental feature not part of the standard kernel in FreeBSD, McAfee then made improvements to it for OS X which was later back ported to FreeBSD in 2009. There's a history write up of access control and MAC at ACM if you're interested.

http://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=2430732
 
so it will support iPhone 4s but will it be usable ?
Apple is now building a core version of iOS 9 that runs efficiently on older A5 devices, then enabling each properly performing feature one-by-one.

Tells me that A5 will get iOS9, but with the new and improved features that affect performance turned off. So the user can turn on what he wants, rather than all that stuff being on, and lowering performance.

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Is it me or do the iPhone4s's look super tiny in this article? Almost like mini phones! Crazy to think just 2-3 years ago, these were the best things since sliced bread.

My wife has my old 4S, I have a 6 Plus, man the 4S is tiny

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I expect it to run better then IOS 8 but usability is subjective.

It will be useable. The idea is that you can run iOS9, but the features will be turned off, allowing you to chose what you turn on. Currently, everything is on, performance suffers. So, expect to be on the latest OS with your choice what new features to enable. Its like upgrading to iOS90, but your usability is like iOS7, so you get little extra apart from improvements to the core OS. But you can CHOOSE features

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I counter disagree :p

The problem is that by continuously supporting outdated hardware with a platform like iOS they won't be able to truly use their newer processors to their full potential.

With OSX devices it's different. If you want to run more powerful applications then you buy a more powerful Mac. Simple.

The problem is with iOS all apps must be able to run on all supported hardware. Today's A-series processors are so much more powerful than those of 2011. Yet any app written for today's processors must be able to run on 2011's processor, which limits the features of said app. The hardware is moving forward, yet the software and applications are forced to stand still.

No. iOS9 supports the latest and greatest hardware. If your 4S doesnt have hardware for some features it wont have those features. If your 4S can support new software features, but those will affect performance, you can CHOOSE what you want

The issue with apps is not relevant, thats the devs job to update or not update.

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I counter disagree :p

The problem is that by continuously supporting outdated hardware with a platform like iOS they won't be able to truly use their newer processors to their full potential.

With OSX devices it's different. If you want to run more powerful applications then you buy a more powerful Mac. Simple.

The problem is with iOS all apps must be able to run on all supported hardware. Today's A-series processors are so much more powerful than those of 2011. Yet any app written for today's processors must be able to run on 2011's processor, which limits the features of said app. The hardware is moving forward, yet the software and applications are forced to stand still.

No. iOS9 supports the latest and greatest hardware. If your 4S doesnt have hardware for some features it wont have those features. If your 4S can support new software features, but those will affect performance, you can CHOOSE what you want

The issue with apps is not relevant, thats the devs job to update or not update.
 
I'm looking forward to finding out what's new in the next iOS and OS X. While these rumors are interesting, I don't put much faith in them anymore ;)
 
Control Center moves many of the controls from the Mac’s Menu Bar to a pane that slides out from the left side of the Mac’s display

Arrrghhh! No! That's where I keep my dock! I hope, like the menu bar, it occupies just a small amount of real estate at the top.

Apple plans to transition this sync process to iCloud Drive

Oh here we go again with iCloud Drive. I hope Apple plans to increase my measly default of 5 gb if they force me to start syncing everything.
 
That's because you updated your iOS. my iphone 4s with ios5 is running very smooth, same with my ipad 2 ios 6. Still as fast as day one.

My honest opinion. Apple needs to drop the A5 processor already. We're about to hit A9 this year, four generations ahead.

I own a first gen iPad mini and it has slowed down so much over the years that for some tasks it's just an annoyance to use. The A5 was good in its time. Don't misunderstand me, but its time was in 2011.
 
Apple is now building a core version of iOS 9 that runs efficiently on older A5 devices, then enabling each properly performing feature one-by-one.



No. iOS9 supports the latest and greatest hardware. If your 4S doesnt have hardware for some features it wont have those features. If your 4S can support new software features, but those will affect performance, you can CHOOSE what you want

The issue with apps is not relevant, thats the devs job to update or not update.

It doesn't say this anywhere, all it says is Apple built a core version of iOS 9 and is turning on features that work well one by one. (As opposed to just putting the whole OS on it at once) The user doesn't turn them on.

This doesn't even promise that it'll be any better than iOS 8. Hopefully if they enable a feature and find it too slow they go back and optimize the code for it.
 
Rootless is a just an internal codename. It's a stupid codename

Trusted Wi-Fi I think is a way to implement the way 'known networks' works without the networks being 'known' aka already joined to.

Correction on that...

"known networks" are not networks u are already got an active connection with, they are networks u "trust" since they are joined automatically.

hence my question.
 
Serious question: Can anyone tell me how control center on a Mac is practical? I'm just trying to figure out why it's necessary with the "Today" and a Menu Bar.

I suspect to make the interface even more touch-friendly (larger buttons, interactive panels, etc.)

Also, to remove some of the "menu extras" from the menubar that are quite often optional and some new users don't even understand how to get them there, or where they went if they remove them by mistake. These same features in Control Center would be permanent.

Not to mention to make OS X even more familiar to a growing iOS user base so people adopting a Mac for the first time are instantly familiar with many of the interface conventions.

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My honest opinion. Apple needs to drop the A5 processor already. We're about to hit A9 this year, four generations ahead.

I own a first gen iPad mini and it has slowed down so much over the years that for some tasks it's just an annoyance to use. The A5 was good in its time. Don't misunderstand me, but its time was in 2011.

As others have said, the slowness is not a simple matter of time or age. There's other factors that you need to look at, such as maybe cleaning up the installation. Remove apps that you never use. Restart once a month.

I'm still using an iPhone 4 with iOS 7, and it gets me by just fine, aside from the occasional annoying slowness. Would I love to replace it with something faster? Sure! Do I *need* to? No.
 
However ANOTHER panel that slides out of the side? Already I have this damn one that appears at random when I'm trying to do something. I've also never figured out how to get it to fold out when it ISN'T the most inconvenient and inopportune time. I just call it the "piss me off panel".

You're welcome! :cool:

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It's the gesture I deactivated first. Other than that I love my trackpad.
 
If my second gen iPad that originally came out wit iOS4 gets iOS9 I'll be blown away. That would be it's 6th (!!!) operating system. Not supporting older devices my ass some would say :).
 
I agree, they really are making it irritating rather than a pleasure to use, expose used to be far simpler better than control center, notifications are just like those annoying windows XP pop ups, and too many gestures now for the track pad that you usually end up triggering something by mistake! I'd happily revert back to Snow leopard if I could!

Flat will look dated soon enough, that is one consolation I guess. That thin font already looks dated!

I just find they way they have implemented it has caused useability issues.
I.e it's not clear if something is click-able etc, hidden menus iTunes 12 is a prime example of an awful piece of flat software that is frustrating to use, i dread to think what Yosemite is like so I will be sticking to Mavericks for as long as I can hold out!

I agree. Sadly my favorite computer company has dropped all of its pro hardware and become a telephone company that also sells fashion accessories and ghetto headphones. So much so that I just replaced a 2012 mini with an HP Z230, an entry-level, pro-quality machine for the price of a mini.

That said, the yearly Operation System Fashion Show has been one of my biggest gripes. I've sworn to myself not to fall into the OS X upgrades anymore but if OS X 11 is really a set of improvements on Yosemite I can go for it. Give me an option to make it look exactly like Leopard and I will really be happy. Aqua is beautiful.
 
It better be or Tim so help me, I swear I will come down there and slap you up myself if you do that!


I'm not spending $2000+ on a computer that won't let me access any and every part of the system I want. If they do this it may push me over to Linux 100%. That's ********!

Like it'll prevent OS X from being hacked anyway....
 
"With iOS 9 and OS X 10.11, Apple plans to transition this sync process to iCloud Drive, which offers better end-to-end encryption and faster syncing than traditional IMAP servers.

Does this mean I won't be able to sync between my iPhone and iMac with Mountain Lion? I have to be careful not to choose "use iCloud Drive" button when I set up iOS9…
 
"focus of OS X 10.11 will be on improved stability and performance"

This is so very, very sorely needed. They might have to come up with a better name than Snow Yosemite though...

Rock-Solid Yosemite?

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Mac OS X 10.11 Mail update?

Mail? Sexist.

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Does this mean my iPad 2 might work one day again? Currently, it's so slow on iOS 8, it's dropping out of my use habits.

I went from an iPad 2 to an iPad Air 2 last year. The improvement in speed is huge! Still use the 2 for photos.
 
But you already have that?! It's called Dropbox, it's free, stable and fast.
The iOS iWork apps do interact better with iCloud drive than with Dropbox.

Why want the same thing from Apple? Because you prefer slow sync, missing files, conflicting copies, ... Why would you trust your files with Apple knowing they will mess it up like they did with MobileMe, iDisk, iTunes Match, Photos Cloud Library, ... ???
I have seen very few reports about iCloud Photo Library messing things up.

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Like it'll prevent OS X from being hacked anyway....

I like how a security feature that inconveniences you appears to by definition not of much use.
 
I've remained on iOS 7.1.2 on my 4S to avoid making it slow. If this update does indeed come to the 4S and with decent performance, I might try it, but I will wait for the brave souls (again) to try it first :D

As for OS X...I have Yosemite on my MBP and I haven't been pleased with it (performance issues, I'm ok with the design), so much I didn't dare to put it on my iMac. The iMac is running Mavericks which for me is the best option after Snow Leopard, but I do miss SL a lot. That was a very smooth OS, it worked and performed great.

To be honest, this new version won't make much difference for me because I will be switching back to Windows eventually (the name of the Demon has been spoken haha), but I'm still interested in seeing if it this update will indeed focus on performance or not (I love to try software, Windows, Linux, OS X, apps, it doesn't matter). I am curious about this "rootless" feature. I sure hope this doesn't mean they are going to try to close the system and force people and developers to use the Mac App Store. It means more safety, but I don't think a desktop OS should be so closed...
 
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