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OS X 10.4.1 Now Available
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Reboot-a-phobia
I'd like to install the 10.4.1 upgrade but my 15" PB hasn't been rebooted in over two weeks. I have a combined fear of a bad install (like some here have reported) and an urge to see just how long I can go between restarts.
I guess I'll wait for a mandatory reboot (i.e. crash) and install 10.4.1 then.
I'd like to install the 10.4.1 upgrade but my 15" PB hasn't been rebooted in over two weeks. I have a combined fear of a bad install (like some here have reported) and an urge to see just how long I can go between restarts.
I guess I'll wait for a mandatory reboot (i.e. crash) and install 10.4.1 then.
new bug and new update for idvd
now to a new bug, this is in regards to transparent dock. the latest version 2.3.1 works in 10.4 but not in 10.4.1. they are working on this though so keep an eye out for the update if you guys use this application.
idvd 4.6 is available today, i downloaded it earlier and everything works fine.
now to a new bug, this is in regards to transparent dock. the latest version 2.3.1 works in 10.4 but not in 10.4.1. they are working on this though so keep an eye out for the update if you guys use this application.
I've noticed a few problems with this update on my DP 2.5GHz Powermac...first off, the fans come one very loud and more often than they used to, epsecially when using Spotlight. Spotlight also hangs and gives me the spinning beachball if I try to backspace (delete) the current search quickly. I also noticed that when using the F10 Expose feature, the window/windows are now overly blurred. The HORIZONTAL RIPPLE with ATI cards has still not been fixed...that is getting annoying. Also, anyone else notice that it takes FOREVER when loggin out of one user to get back to the main log-in window? It was so fast back with 10.3.9...I don't know what they did to mess it up. Wish they would fix that also.
Good things with the update...the world clock widget seems to keep its time and show up almost immediately when activating dashboard now. It used to lag for at least 2 or 3 seconds before showing the clock hands. Dashboard and Expose do seem smoother now. I'm sure there are more positive attributes to the update, but I havn't found any more yet.
Good things with the update...the world clock widget seems to keep its time and show up almost immediately when activating dashboard now. It used to lag for at least 2 or 3 seconds before showing the clock hands. Dashboard and Expose do seem smoother now. I'm sure there are more positive attributes to the update, but I havn't found any more yet.
mileslong said:
Is it iDVD or DVD Player that got the upgrade to 4.6? I thought it was DVD Player (which I still don't see on my list). iDVD not showing up, I could understand, since I didn't install it off the iLife 05 disc (just iPhoto and iTunes)!
DVD Player 4.6 is available from the Apple Downloads page, and it says that it's recommended for everyone on 10.4 Tiger. It doesn't seem to show up in Software Update, though. I just noticed it myself and downloaded it, but haven't installed yet.mkrishnan said:Is it iDVD or DVD Player that got the upgrade to 4.6? I thought it was DVD Player (which I still don't see on my list). iDVD not showing up, I could understand, since I didn't install it off the iLife 05 disc (just iPhoto and iTunes)!
ericdano said:
Probably through those things, you know, the ********* stuff.
(yes the forums *'d the word out. I'm sure you can figure it out now )
What I've discovered so far:
- you still can't customise number formatting
- the tab order in TCP/IP Preferences is still wrong
- you still can't customise number formatting
- the tab order in TCP/IP Preferences is still wrong
I'v really enjoyed Tiger so far. I haven't had most of the bugs that people have been noting. When my daughter bangs on all the keys on the keyboard I do lose the dock and have to go into activity monitor and quit the dock to get it back. I tried to replicate the problems in iPhoto and even got a color bar off the web and cropped it 5 times then reverted to original to see if I couldn't see the change - there was not change for me. Fast user switching isn't so fast. Expose is choppy at times. So there are some rough edges but I try using my other computers (that aren't on Tiger yet) and they seem archaic to me without spotlight and dashboard. I think Tiger could improve on its overall flow and smoothness. It kind of pauses for a breath every now and then but all in all the benefits outweigh the problems and we are only on 10.4.1. I am running a Dual 2 GHz G5 machine so the sluggishness might not be so pronounced. Now on to 10.4.1 to see if things do improve like most people have said. Also, 99% of the time these updates help me and I have no problems. I think Apple is doing really well.
mileslong said:
think i'll wait then for the updated transparent dock before upgrading to 10.4.1 since i've just got it and am so loving it
anyway my 10.4 seems fine, so the need isn't there, luckily!!
update summary
Speed.. way improved.. seems more stable. Startup was so fast I missed it. Widgets.. all nice. seem smoother. Never had prob with iTunes widget but I never saw the point in it. If iTunes is running why would you need dashboard to control it? A DUMB idea. all in all ok on my 2 machines.
bad things..
I want mail.appetizer back. I loved that thing so much. I miss it soooo much.
iChat av problems. My friend's eMac 1gb can not send more than one fps to anyone from his machine using iSight or other cameras since his tiger upgrade. It worked perfectly before. He recieves full fps from other machines. My Dual G5 and eMac 700 handle iChat AV perfectly both send and recieve. this is a problem for many people in apple forums. 10.4.1 did not address this.
Weather widget.. forgot about that. does not work with some UK districts that are in fact listed by accuweather.com UK & ireland. specifically Northampton, England.
Speed.. way improved.. seems more stable. Startup was so fast I missed it. Widgets.. all nice. seem smoother. Never had prob with iTunes widget but I never saw the point in it. If iTunes is running why would you need dashboard to control it? A DUMB idea. all in all ok on my 2 machines.
bad things..
I want mail.appetizer back. I loved that thing so much. I miss it soooo much.
iChat av problems. My friend's eMac 1gb can not send more than one fps to anyone from his machine using iSight or other cameras since his tiger upgrade. It worked perfectly before. He recieves full fps from other machines. My Dual G5 and eMac 700 handle iChat AV perfectly both send and recieve. this is a problem for many people in apple forums. 10.4.1 did not address this.
Weather widget.. forgot about that. does not work with some UK districts that are in fact listed by accuweather.com UK & ireland. specifically Northampton, England.
If you use Tiger, you have CoreImage. Your iBook's graphics card does not support CoreImage, so your CPU has to handle CoreImage processing instead. Certain things are disabled (dashboard ripple) since the CPU won't be as fast as a GPU with CI support and your computer will be slowed by the extra CPU processing. But image processing is most likely still done by CoreImage and processed by the CPU, so the iPhoto problem could be a CoreImage bug.sparkleytone said:
rfoap said:
My PowerBook 15" showed 19.4MB, too. Maybe it's the desktops that have a larger update?
Improvements I've seen:
- Expose looks/renders smoother.
- The ripple effect in dashboard doesn't stutter and renders instantly, unlike with 10.4.0 where it would take about a second.
- Activating a bunch of widgets one after another and the slowdown isn't the same with various ripples overlapping.
- Text in finder sometime looked odd, now it looks OK (I think there was something similar in the first release of Panther).
- Some apps seem to open/perform faster... could be me though.
yinyang said:think i'll wait then for the updated transparent dock before upgrading to 10.4.1 since i've just got it and am so loving it
anyway my 10.4 seems fine, so the need isn't there, luckily!!
i had just installed transparent dock and 10.4.1 broke the damn thing... thats frustrating. Why doesn't Apple just incude it in the Dock prefs? the dock background is soooo ugly.
Daveway said:
The weird jump is because the dock zooms out from where you're clicking after bringing out the menu.
And shouldn't Bittorrent and I Get Movies
have an update, and not OS X?I don't think all the things you listed are bugs or things that could be considered an OS problem, no matter how annoying some could be. I've read too many posts with things that aren't really bugs, just people afraid to upgrade to Tiger, IMO.
alexf said:
Go to http://www.apple.com/macosx/ if that doesn't convince you, then you probably shouldn't upgrade.
Dashboard and Expose feel faster.
Mail still does not hide after startup and iChat still ignores proxy settings rendering it almost useless. There are more bugs not mentioned being coped with in the readme but I can't check those yet.
Geez, I would have rather waited 2 more weeks to get ALL the known bugs out than this ?$"§$ now where we have to wait another 2 months for the patch. Waaaay to go Apple.
Mail still does not hide after startup and iChat still ignores proxy settings rendering it almost useless. There are more bugs not mentioned being coped with in the readme but I can't check those yet.
Geez, I would have rather waited 2 more weeks to get ALL the known bugs out than this ?$"§$ now where we have to wait another 2 months for the patch. Waaaay to go Apple.
Freg3000 said:So no fix for the iTunes widget, but for 4 others? Hmmmm...the iTunes widget is flakey.
Updating now. See you on the other side.
What other 4 widgets did they fix? I can't tell any difference.