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Duff-Man says....the SpamCop Mail.bundle is now broken. There seems to be a pattern of mail bundles having problems in this update. Shame, as SubSume does not update/support that SpamCop bundle anymore.....oh yeah!
My weather widget now crashes, whereas before it was perfectly fine. It has unexpectedly quit twice in the past hour. I'm going to have to keep my eye on it.
The dock bug is fixed, thank goodness (that weird jump someone mentioned happened in Panther, too, by the way). My Automator login apps now seem to execute and mount shares faster (and with a notice in the menu bar...was this there before?), and my network connection failures no longer beachball the Finder (hooray!).
I also tried to replicate that "click through" Dashboard bug, but it only worked when there was a transparent region around the widget that I clicked on, not when a widget was placed over the menu bar icons. There's not a lot of reason to click on a transparent region, except to exit Dashboard, so I guess I don't see a problem.
The dock bug is fixed, thank goodness (that weird jump someone mentioned happened in Panther, too, by the way). My Automator login apps now seem to execute and mount shares faster (and with a notice in the menu bar...was this there before?), and my network connection failures no longer beachball the Finder (hooray!).
I also tried to replicate that "click through" Dashboard bug, but it only worked when there was a transparent region around the widget that I clicked on, not when a widget was placed over the menu bar icons. There's not a lot of reason to click on a transparent region, except to exit Dashboard, so I guess I don't see a problem.
bankshot said:Hmm. No mention of USB driver updates, or for that matter, any stability fixes. I've had 7 panics in the last 2 weeks, all with the USB driver. Clean install, yada yada. Here's hoping this update fixes that, otherwise I think I'll have to go back to Panther.
I don't think this has been fixed in 8B15. I installed it last week (it was then still defined as a 'seed' and I didn't want to mention I was having problems because of my NDA. I was hoping there would be another release addressing the kernel panics, but alas...) I still get panics since the 8B15 update, where the backtrace refers to the IOUSB drivers.
I'm starting to think the problem may actually be with either my Logitech or Wacom USB drivers and not in the OS per. se. I can't imagine Apple not fixing this if it was their issue. I installed the Logitech update that came out last week but it didn't stop the problems either.
I was having troubles with SMB mounts and at least they now seem to be resolved, so things got a little better for me. But I can't stay in Tiger with kernel panics every day, so I'm going to have to stay mostly in Panther until the USB vendors and Apple figure out how to resolve this issue.
[edit: I take that back. It worked a couple of times, but now I'm getting the SMB problems again. When I try to connect to my Linux box using the Network icon/psuedo-directory, the Linux server shows up, but when I select it I get 'the alias could not be opened because the original cannot be found." If I try using "Connect To Server..." I get "could not connect to server because the name or password is incorrect." Both methods work fine in Panther. I also have some weird "Library" generic alias icon that shows up in the Network directory that doesn't do anything...]
shambolic said:Quartz Extreme was enabled by default in Panther and Jaguar too. Assuming you mean Quartz 2D Extreme, it's not on for me:
$ defaults read /Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver Quartz2DExtremeEnabled
0
And that's on a high-end Powerbook (Radeon 9700 video card). Posts I've read on other forums seem to agree that it's still disabled for most if not all of us...
I was hoping they'd enable that too.
I know XBench tests are sometimes a bit vague but the graphics and interface tests appear to me to be reasonable tests. On an iMacG5 with FX5200, the overall score for Quartz graphics jumps from around 200 to 275 mostly because of line and rectangle scores but the text test is about 2/3rds down on the score without 2D enabled. The user interface test is similarly down.
I'd guess that Quartz2D text handling and scrolling isn't quite there yet even though on the whole it appears to offer quite some advantage - over a third faster overall.
I've permanently enabled it and I've not noticed any graphics problems other than the fan coming on a lot with animated gif and flash in Safari.
my brightness controls still dont work. the only thing i want them to fix and have reported still doesnt work. get on it apple.
Duff-Man said:
Er, read the release notes. They disabled mail.bundles in this release because of compatibility issues.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301584
Duff-Man said:
My guess is that this is Apple's response to the issue that many folks had with the 10.4.0 upgrade, where Mail failed to import messages if an incompatible mail bundle was installed (the httpmail bundle for hotmail was a particular problem). So they require that bundle developers certify their apps as being compatible by labelling them with a higher version number.
Unfortunately as you say, some bundles are no longer maintained, and may have been working fine.
I only had one bundle installed - GrowlMail - and followed andysmith's suggestion (message #38 in this thread) with success:
I would expect that this override will work for other Mail bundles too. Setting BundleCompatibilityVersion=1 may make it even more permissive...
[edit: aegisdesign's informative link to the release notes trumps my guesswork]
Quartz2D
There's another oddity with Quartz2D still being disabled.
The javascript test at http://www.24fun.com/downloadcenter/benchjs/benchjs.html exhibits the problem.
Test 6 moves 50 small layers into position via javascript. With Quartz2D enabled it takes a whopping 48 seconds. With it disabled (the default) it takes 2.8 seconds.
I reckon it should stay disabled for now.
There's another oddity with Quartz2D still being disabled.
The javascript test at http://www.24fun.com/downloadcenter/benchjs/benchjs.html exhibits the problem.
Test 6 moves 50 small layers into position via javascript. With Quartz2D enabled it takes a whopping 48 seconds. With it disabled (the default) it takes 2.8 seconds.
I reckon it should stay disabled for now.
Sounds like a lot of people are a) still having problems with Tiger which 4.1 hasn't addressed or b) having new problems because of 4.1. As I've said before, it's things like this why I've never been in a rush to upgrade to Tiger. Maybe after 10.4.2....
Sirus The Virus said:
My 12" PowerBook said 19.4MB as well, while my PowerMac said 37.7MB. I'm user this is due to what you have installed, and what you don't. If nothing else, here's your confirmation that it's fine...unless mine's messed up too, but I doubt it.
No problems here. I do have the weird non-functional generic alias called Library in my Network, though.
Smooth Sailing
New update works great! but my PowerBook keeps saying, "Buy more Macs." It is really weird!
New update works great! but my PowerBook keeps saying, "Buy more Macs." It is really weird!
I take it you're talking about Quartz2D Extreme? I ran the test with and without Q2DExtreme and the test you references runs under 2 seconds either way, and the total test time varies by less than a tenth of a second.aegisdesign said:There's another oddity with Quartz2D still being disabled.
The javascript test at http://www.24fun.com/downloadcenter/benchjs/benchjs.html exhibits the problem.
Test 6 moves 50 small layers into position via javascript. With Quartz2D enabled it takes a whopping 48 seconds. With it disabled (the default) it takes 2.8 seconds.
I reckon it should stay disabled for now.
Well, updated and all seems to be fine on my end. Mine is 19.4 MB too. Noticed iTunes 4.8 finally showed up in Software Update too.
DVD Player is still 4.5 in 10.4.1... And 4.6 still hasn't shown up in Software Update.
DVD Player is still 4.5 in 10.4.1... And 4.6 still hasn't shown up in Software Update.
keysersoze said:
If you do a listing of /Network in the terminal it shows up as a soft link:
Library -> /automount/Library
There is no source folder at /automount/Library, so it's a broken link. I tried deleting the link and it was just regenerated on the next reboot. I don't know what it's for.
Duff-Man says....ah yes....hadn't seen that yet...thanks, makes sense from their perspective although I have never had any trouble with this particular bundle...I guess they can't pick and choose. Anyway, the "fix" seems to have worked for now.....oh yeah!aegisdesign said:
iSaint said:
I never got Software Update to work, so I downloaded off the site. Everything's fine now!