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Yep, although i liked it from the start.

I do still miss the blue loading bar however and would like to see it added back in a way that doesn't screw up the other parts of the browser.

If you are familar with The terminal app:

You can type or cut & paste these in the terminal once you have quit safari.

defaults write com.apple.Safari DebugSafari4IncludeToolbarRedesign -bool NO
defaults write com.apple.Safari DebugSafari4LoadProgressStyle -bool NO

With both set to NO it restores the blue loading bar behind the URL.
 
If you are familar with The terminal app:

You can type or cut & paste these in the terminal once you have quit safari.

defaults write com.apple.Safari DebugSafari4IncludeToolbarRedesign -bool NO
defaults write com.apple.Safari DebugSafari4LoadProgressStyle -bool NO

With both set to NO it restores the blue loading bar behind the URL.

Already tried to run it like that but it does indeed screw up parts of the browser.
 
Honestly, what's the problem with the Safari beta and X.5.7? Maybe a developer can fill us in, without violating an NDA.

There isn't a "problem".
Apple don't want people installing beta software on top of beta software, because that makes any data collected and bugs reported about either product in this scenario useless.

Microsoft do something similar - they'll let you install what you like but kick your bug reports out without barely looking at them if you're reporting a problem with, say, the beta version of office running on top of the current windows beta.

There is no "issue" here other than the engineers attempting to keep their own sanity intact in the face of luserdom.
 
10.5.7 out by Thursday

I've been on the phone with apple a lot recently concerning a problem with my new Mac Pro. Various tech support, product specialists, and engineers have called me with questions trying to isolate the issue which they wanted to fix "before the next patch." Yesterday I talked to a product specialist who said that the engineers had fixed the issue and put it in 10.5.7, which they expect to be released in the next 4 days.
 
Safari 4 beta works with 10.5.7 if you add it AFTER you install the update.

The problem is the install program will not install 10.5.7 if you already have 10.5.6 with Safari 4 installed.

By the way anyone else used to the "tabs on top" now that you've used them for a bit?? I am. Seems second nature to me now.

I HATE the tabs on top feature and added the appropriate property to put things back the way Safari 3 has it.

Mainly its when closing tabs or navigating lots of open tabs. In Safari 3 all tabs are the same width until you fill the screen (and then they start shrinking.) In Safari 4 they constantly adjust to fill the whole width of the window (makes sense, a partly missing title bar would look odd.)

The problem with this, for me, is that I tend to have lots of tabs open and then close them rapidly. I am used to doing this by putting the cursor over the X of the first tab I want to close and then just keep clicking. As a tab closes, the next window's X appears nicely under my cursor (typically I have one tab at the far left I want to keep over so my cursor is over the second tabs X mark.)

Just try that with tabs on top. Won't work because the tabs keep adjusting in size and the X keeps moving. I recognize this is an entirely personal thing and I could do this a myriad of different ways (like Cmd+W) but I am simply very used to doing it this way...

Thankfully there is a way to put it back the way I like (which will hopefully make it into the preferences by the time it goes full release.)

I'm about the only person I know that doesn't like the new feature, but hey, each to their own. :)
 
In regard to 10.5.7 release for those of us who does have Safari 4 beta installed do you think they will let us know in the install program that we must roll back to Safari 3.0 before completing the install? If not how will they warn us? Or finally do you think they will make it compatible first before releasing it to the public so as to not have any problems? Opinions welcomed.
 
In regard to 10.5.7 release for those of us who does have Safari 4 beta installed do you think they will let us know in the install program that we must roll back to Safari 3.0 before completing the install? If not how will they warn us? Or finally do you think they will make it compatible first before releasing it to the public so as to not have any problems? Opinions welcomed.

Could be anything, we don't know. It is unusual that Apple is taking this long to release the damn update.

it is possible 10.5.7 could come with Safari 4 final build just to make it easy for everybody.
 
Could be anything, we don't know. It is unusual that Apple is taking this long to release the damn update.

it is possible 10.5.7 could come with Safari 4 final build just to make it easy for everybody.

I wouldn't be surprised. It may even be the last update to come out for leopard.
 
Could be anything, we don't know. It is unusual that Apple is taking this long to release the damn update.

it is possible 10.5.7 could come with Safari 4 final build just to make it easy for everybody.

That would be great. I really wish that would happen that way as it would be the easiest as you say to deal with this type of situation. In about 1-2 weeks we will know as rumors on this board are going around that it will be released in as little as 4 days like Wed or Thurs next week all the way to the 3rd week in May. So we can do nothing but wait.
 
Is this what you're referring:

http://www.macblogz.com/2008/12/19/one-more-thing-apples-new-multi-touch-mighty-mouse/

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For some reason this mouse reminds me of Flight of the Navigator. I want to crawl inside it with a smart assed AI thingy with living samples in the wall, stop at rest stops and listen to 80's music as I zip along the everglades.
 
For some reason this mouse reminds me of Flight of the Navigator. I want to crawl inside it with a smart assed AI thingy with living samples in the wall, stop at rest stops and listen to 80's music as I zip along the everglades.

Would be one hell of a concept car hypermiler.. Pity about ground clearance for speed bumps!
 
For some reason this mouse reminds me of Flight of the Navigator. I want to crawl inside it with a smart assed AI thingy with living samples in the wall, stop at rest stops and listen to 80's music as I zip along the everglades.

That thing looks like a mouse, but not as good.
 
I love the current Mighty Mouse. It's awesome! I'd love an aluminum mouse though... to match my aluminum keyboard and my aluminum Apple Cinema Display and my aluminum iPhone and my aluminum iPod Classic.
 
Why should it seem obvious? There will be over four months yet until the release of Snow Leopard.

Seems obvious because the Finder version now is "10.5.8"... With the next update will become "10.5.9" just before the 10.6 Snow.:D
 
10.5.7 is proving to be quite the big Apple secret. Can't believe there are no sites out there with any information at all about what is going on. Will we see Safari 4 inside 10.5.7? Is 10.5.7 still being seeded? No one has any information?
 
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