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Wait, Apple is going to follow what everybody else does? I thought it's the other way around.
:D
Yeah, there's a catch-22 for ya. The new trend in trendsetting: Stick with the untrendy trend, that way you're much trendier than the trendy ones.
 
I miss the days when people on this site knew what they were talking about.

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I have noticed that page 1 of most threads usually has one really lame statement or question. Then again about page 5, someone writes, "I haven't read all the previous posts in this thread, but...(insert a new lame beat-to-death question)."
 
How will they market this? "Buy this because it's the same thing as the old one except for the stuff you can't see" ? I mean sure we MacUsers who've been with Apple since 1992 appreciate the under the hood updates but are we going to be the ones paying for it too? Because at the current state the everyday user won't cough up the full price unless they can sell it somehow.

SO... I'm just wondering how they'll market this new OS?

The SL will look like the current OS when it's just sitting there, but once you ask it to do something it will do it so fast you will be able to hear the chins hitting the floor all around the room.

Where the current OS instructs the computer using binary code, Snow Leopard will use one-state code. One-state means the computer is not limited by clock speed, number of CPUs, or front-side RAM. Before you can release the command key, the process is done.

As a professional procrastinator I NEED this OS. For example, I intended to write the previous paragraph 24 days ago. With Snow Leopard it would have retroactively happened.
 
I recently sent in my MBP to get the Logic Board replaced. My local tech guys (Apple official tech support but *not* Apple store) told me that the latest buzz indicates a Q4 '09 release for Snow Leopard.
I hope they're wrong.
 
Thank you for your reply!

This makes me happy!

Though... come to think of it, my MacMini doesn't... could that be why it wasn't showing any improvements? I mean it ran SL but it didn't run faster... :confused:

sorry for the belated reply i was offline.

if you have a Core Duo Mini it will still run Snow Leopard well it just wont run in 64-bit mode only in 32-bit mode. but Apple have stated that there will be only one version of SL and it will seamlessly run on both x32 and x64 Intel hardware just not Power PC hardware.
 
Snow Leopard is a genius name when you look at the description of what one is:


"Along with the Clouded Leopard, it represents an intermediate between so-called big cats"
 
What I really want to know is just how expensive it will be. How will they market this? "Buy this because it's the same thing as the old one except for the stuff you can't see" ? I mean sure we MacUsers who've been with Apple since 1992 appreciate the under the hood updates but are we going to be the ones paying for it too? Because at the current state the everyday user won't cough up the full price unless they can sell it somehow.

SO... I'm just wondering how they'll market this new OS?

Interestingly it'll be up against Windows 7 which, like Snow Leopard, is just a performance and stability update for the previous OS. Microsoft is fooling people into thinking the OS is new by updating the UI so I would imagine Apple would do the same thing. Most consumers don't care what's under the hood and need to see tangible change.
 
New Mac Mini

All new mac mini with more features,it will come with HDMI port
for gaming and HDTV connection.The new mac come in end of june
 
All new mac mini with more features,it will come with HDMI port
for gaming and HDTV connection.The new mac come in end of june

The Mac Mini has just be updated, <insert generic humorous swear here>. :p
Besides, DVI to HDMI adapters are super cheap. DVI doesn't carry audio though. My Samsung Series 4 has a dedicated DVI input (with a HDMI connector for some reason so I use an adapter) and the sound goes can be fed through analog cinch (phono). The VGA connector has the sound over SPIDF (digital), so I can only do digital video with analog audio or analog video with digital audio. As I do the audio through my sound system, DVI is a good option.

With XBMC and the Apple wireless keyboard, you have a pretty decent media center. I use seagate Freeagent Desk hard drives for storage. They're quiet and power down when no files on them are accessed. Sometimes you notice when you play a video and it starts after 5 seconds because the hard drive disc needs to spin up.


Back on topic:
Is Q3 2009 official for Snow Leopard now? It seems to be still under heavy development... When is Apple's Q3? I know it's not "July, August, September" since financial quarters are usually off from the actual quarters.
 
One thing in this news item caught my eye: " application crashes under Rosetta." Can this possibly be right?? I thought that Rosetta was ancient history. Wouln't this require a new version of OS-9 capable of running on Intel processors? What possible reason would Apple have for investing the time in making this work (assuming it is theoretically possible) Is this a simple mistake of reporting, or can somebody explain what's going on?
 
Snow Leopard is a lame name. They should have come up with a new cat name like they always used to. There are plenty they could have chosen from. I liked having a new cat each time. This is just a variation on an old cat. I want a new cat.

Snow Leopard IS a new cat. The snow leopard is a separate species from the leopard, and it is genetically quite distinct from the other big cats. That is, there is more difference between a leopard and a snow leopard than between a leopard and a tiger.

Also, I'm a bit annoyed by everybody saying that Snow Leopard is just Leopard with stability changes. It is a lot more than that - it is Leopard with major performance and architectural changes. Much like the difference between Vista and Windows 7. And don't expect the initial releases of Snow Leopard to be any more stable than the initial releases of Leopard. It will take atleast a couple of updates, probably until 10.6.2 or 10.6.3, before Snow Leopard is completely stable. Just like any other OS X release.

About the Rosetta crashes, I am just hypothesizing: could it be due to Rosetta being modified to take advantage of Grand Central for enhanced performance?
 
Ooooops

Sorry about that reference to OS-9, shows how late it's getting and my brain is shutting down for the night. What I meant to say is that I guess I had naively assumed that by this time the need to run applications compiled for the PowerPC family by means of Rosetta is ancient history by now, so I'm surprised that Apple is bothering to include it. Isn't the whole point of Snow Leopard to develop a "lean and mean" OS?
 
No, sorry. I want a new cat.

We had Cheetah/Puma/Jaguar/Panther/Tiger and Leopard.

What about Lion and Cougar? Where the hell are they??? Let's exhaust all distinct cat names before we get off on tangents like Snow Leopard, Spotted Leopard and Clouded Leopard.

I want my OS X Lion and Cougar. Also want my Lynx, Wildcat and Bobcat. Then we will get to the tangential Leopards.


Honestly, who gives a rats ass? It's like when people started debating whether Apple would ever go past 9 on a sub-point release (10.X.9 to 10.X.10 for example, X being 1 - 5).

I'm very much looking forward to 10.6.
 
Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I have noticed that page 1 of most threads usually has one really lame statement or question. Then again about page 5, someone writes, "I haven't read all the previous posts in this thread, but...(insert a new lame beat-to-death question)."

I agree on the lame "is it snappier" type of jokes, because they are getting tired, but you cannot expect everyone to read a thread of 20 pages to scan for the question that might have been asked already. The only thing you can expect is that they use the search function, but that one isn't foolproof either.

I guess we all have to live with it that some questions are asked a few times (I just scroll down more and forget about it) and some dumbasses that say "first" on the first post..
 
No, Apple states it as being a release that is "taking a break from adding new features" and that it is mostly an "under the hood" update - in that as opposed to adding 300+ new features like they did with Leopard, they're focussing on improving the code, reducing the footprint of the OS, and increasing it's overall performance and how it works with multi-core machines.

It will be interesting to see into what package they plan to wrap the cost of Snow Leopard. The most effective one would be to bundle iLife and/or iWork in the upgrade.

Interestingly it'll be up against Windows 7 which, like Snow Leopard, is just a performance and stability update for the previous OS. Microsoft is fooling people into thinking the OS is new by updating the UI so I would imagine Apple would do the same thing. Most consumers don't care what's under the hood and need to see tangible change.

I don't think Microsoft is fooling anyone. Neither is Apple. Windows 7 and Snow Leopard could arguably be called glorified Service Packs when all is said and done. Thing is, folks aren't used to paying for those.

How about osx 10.6 LOLCAT

I love it!

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What possible reason would Apple have for investing the time in making this work (assuming it is theoretically possible) Is this a simple mistake of reporting, or can somebody explain what's going on?
Rosetta is going to outlast hardware PowerPC support--plenty of titles remain viable longer than hardware, especially lots of the one-off, small applications
But CS is the product (it's a creative suite).
No, Creative Suite is a bundle of separate products. Among its members are Photoshop CS, ImageReady CS, and Illustrator CS; each is an independent, proper, branded product identity.
Everyone who jumped on the "let's replace version numbers with a word or a letter combo that ends with X" train a few years ago
It's not a letter; it's a number. X (ten).
I think they'll drop the X soon enough.
Maybe and maybe not, but not to replace it with 'XI', is the point.
I was under the impression that people who pronounce it as "Oh Ess Ex" are usually lynched/shot down/ridiculed...?
And rightfully so.
So that's, what, "OS Ten Ten Point Five"?
Technically, yes, it's Apple Mac OS X, Version 10.5. OS 10.5. OS X Leopard. But never, ever OS X.5. That interpretation is a conflation of two distinct elements of the brand--the product name and the product version. You did the same thing with Adobe's CS versioning.

Photoshop CS was version 8.0. Photoshop CS 4 is version 11.0, not 4.0.
 
The changes seem small in this release. I know people think Fall but development is showing maybe June...
 
Among them were crashes in QuickTime X player, application crashes under Rosetta, problems with Migration Assistant and odd errors being spit out by the new version of Disk Utility.

I'd want it fixed before Disk Utility said something odd!

...Error fgnurk 098123 - Disk Formatted... sorry about your data MOO!...
 
When they went from PowerPC to Intel, they tried to make the OS exactly the same, so people wouldn't be freaked out by the processor change.

Now they are going from 32 to 64-bit and they are doing the same thing. That is why I believe the rumors of a big UI overhaul are false.
 
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