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The 10.7.2 update is recommended for all OS X Lion users and includes general operating system fixes that improve the stability, compatibility, and security of your Mac. It also includes support for iCloud, a breakthrough set of free cloud services that automatically and wirelessly store your content on iCloud and push it to all of your devices. iCloud on OS X Lion includes the following features:

Shouldn't that be iDevices? - I'm not aware that iCould works with anything but a device that runs iOS?
 
I hope 10.7.2 fixes all of the problems i have been having. :mad:

safari sucks, mail sucks, ical sucks. pretty much anything i do because of installing lion has sucked. everything stalls or freezes!

I agree I do hope some of these issues get resolved. Running hot, Safari freezes often, some of my programs don't work, spinning beach ball of death multiple times a day, 3-4 minute boot up time, lagging, dropped connections, permission errors, etc etc.

A clean install, SMC and PRAM reset and still issues, although I will note they have decreased slightly after doing these things.
 
iCloud also works with Windows too. Contacts/Calendars/Mail syncing to Microsoft Outlook
 
Whats there to focus on in ichat ? :)

iMessage support I expect. Contrary to popular belief, iChat has a huge number of changes in Lion, not least of which is the ability to add extra chat protocols via plugins. Either iChat in 10.7.2 will have iMessage built in (but perhaps hidden until some future date), or they're adding bug fixes so that when the iMessage plugin is available for download that it will work properly.

That's my theory and I'm sticking to it :)
 
As usual, with every new OS released, lots of people have lots of issues.
The silent majority however has no issues. ;)

This is crap... I have upgraded every release since 10.2 and there were never problems like this. Sure there were bugs, some changes some people didn't like, but Lion has some fundamental implementation problems that are simply unacceptable for a modern computer OS. There really isn't a major new "feature" that people are not complaining about.

I am gladly staying with Snow Leopard for the foreseeable future, as anyone who appreciates stability and productivity would do.

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iCloud also works with Windows too. Contacts/Calendars/Mail syncing to Microsoft Outlook

If it works with Outlook for Mac, I would be happy, but I'm sure if it does they will find a way to screw it up. =)

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Shouldn't that be iDevices? - I'm not aware that iCould works with anything but a device that runs iOS?

Didn't you know, Mac 'iOS' X Lion works with icloud, too.
 
No offense but you don't know of what you speak.

I run a Mac Pro dedicated to new O/S releases and.

A. My machine never had the iTunes problem and
B. The nested folder problem was fixed in an unreleased version of Lion.

If you have those problems I would recommend re-installing the whole O/S and do NOT put ANY software on it that was not tested and was shown to be bug-free under Lion.

None taken because I do. Tested on every Mac I ever came into contact with during that 6 1/3 year period, Tiger release April 2005 (IIRC) to Lion release August 2011, and reported the crash bugs on no fewer than 30 occasions, mainly from my own machine, with comments getting more and more irritated in a humourous manner, "You know you guys are going to tire of receiving these reports long before I tire of sending them :D" and the like.


Nested folder sorting, if you do indeed understand what I mean (no offence), that's fantastic - makes that only a 3.5-year-old bug reported many times - I call victory. Still a small token and not enough to make Lion viable.

LOL I've never installed any software that doesn't meet those criteria, and the bugs always worked on clean installs anyway - I was pretty obsessive about clean installs at least once every six months during most of that time, and always made a point of that being the first bug report after running Software Update. But enough about me, you're more interesting as you have a magical Mac Pro ;). If only I could be on it with anything from 10.4.0-10.6.8, I'd make it crash for you :(.


Re other comments about not caring about iCloud, I could not be more in line with that. The triumvirate of autosave/versions/resume was merely the omen of what is to come - duh duh dun.
 
LOL, looking at my original post with the list of things that make cloud computing feasible, it got NEGGED 4 TIMES. *edit, make it 5 and THIS post at 1

Why are macrumors members so bitter in the face of reality?

what good is 5gb storage space when carriers will not give you any more than 5gb bandwidth, both download and upload at a ridiculous price?

That's not an Apple issue. It's a Carrier issue.
 
iMessage support I expect. Contrary to popular belief, iChat has a huge number of changes in Lion, not least of which is the ability to add extra chat protocols via plugins. Either iChat in 10.7.2 will have iMessage built in (but perhaps hidden until some future date), or they're adding bug fixes so that when the iMessage plugin is available for download that it will work properly.

That's my theory and I'm sticking to it :)

i hope your correct! that would be awesome! :D
 
The New Windows 8 may beat Apple's Lion when it comes to less bugs...

It do see some lag in certain apps.....but I guess it is to be expected on a 2 year old macbook pro ? I don't know Snow Leopard felt a whole lot better than LION performance wise...but I guess that the iOS development is taking priority over the MacOS development which we all knew for sometime now.....it's the big money maker for Apple...sad to see this happening but who didn't see this coming...they are now in a race with other mobile device companies to keep/gain market share..
 
First off, I've got no real problems with Lion. Wi-fi connectivity was an issue, but was fixed for me with 10.7.1. I use my Mac heavily with developing and computational/modeling programs [Eclipse, Xcode, Mathematica, MATLAB, and IDL], and have little to no issues.

Second, thank god you can finally re-order desktops and full-screen apps. That was so annoying.

[I'll admit, I used to have a gripe with Launchpad, but have since come to really like it. I just wish it could delete non-App Store apps from Launchpad.]
 
am i the only person who does not give a damn about all the cloud crap..???:confused::confused::confused:

Possibly. Online, sorry "The Cloud" might be OK for syncing data but in the end I want my data stored on my computer and backed up on my external drives. This whole iCloud thing is a device meant to make us more dependent on Apple for everything.

I prefer to make my own decisions after I buy their computer and OS. I'll get my own better quality music and better quality movies. I even know how to buy software, and, I prefer it on a disk when possible.
 
I know apple knows about this issue, but I'd really like to be able to group a few Apple IDs together. Basically, the email that I used to start buying stuff on iTunes is not the email that I got when I opened my .mac account years later. I have continued to buy under that old email, so it is my primary Apple ID. But it is not what I use for other daily purposes.

Apple fix that up. Isn't it just a pointer in the database to point one Apple ID to another set of data?
 
I know apple knows about this issue, but I'd really like to be able to group a few Apple IDs together. Basically, the email that I used to start buying stuff on iTunes is not the email that I got when I opened my .mac account years later. I have continued to buy under that old email, so it is my primary Apple ID. But it is not what I use for other daily purposes.

Apple fix that up. Isn't it just a pointer in the database to point one Apple ID to another set of data?

Let's try not to hijack the thread.
 
I down voted this for the irony. Then I realized by posting this, I ruined said irony.



Nope. I'm with you on that one. The Ford Model T really only works when all these factors come into play:

a) there is a constant road everywhere you are with your Model T, either gravel or some type of pavement (which brick or something better would make sense, but it doesnt exist everywhere)
b) the vehicle is fast enough to replace a horse's speed or now two horses, which won't happen in the next 10 years at least and thats being generous.
c) the vehicle is STABLE
d) gasoline providers MUST give you unlimited gasoline to make the Ford Model T worthwhile
e) gasoline providers would need to offer these kinds of services (250gal, unlimited gasoline at any station) at a reasonable price, which, if you live in Canada or a country where duopolies or monopolies exist, this will NEVER happen.

Automobiles? Useless.

Progress happens for a reason. Everything sucks at first. Just look at babies.

Oh awesome, another mac user giving me another irrelevant car anology.

doesnt matter how you slice it. cloud computing is only good for small files as someone else mentioned.

no need to get upset about the limitations set out by carriers. and no need to get upset over me pointing out those limitations as if I want them to be like that forever; because i dont. im giving you guys a dose of reality and a push for carriers to offer services people will want to use TODAY.
 
This is probably a silly question, but will you have to have Lion for the icloud features? Im still on 10.6 SL as i've heard bad things about Aperture now working well with Lion, and i use that a lot!, and i don't want to have to upgrade if i don't have to.
 
Hoping for a much improved ATI Radeon 2600 HD Pro 256MB driver.

Apple never includes specific improvements for old cards.

This is probably a silly question, but will you have to have Lion for the icloud features? Im still on 10.6 SL as i've heard bad things about Aperture now working well with Lion, and i use that a lot!, and i don't want to have to upgrade if i don't have to.

No, an iCloud update will be released for 10.6.8.
 
Oh awesome, another mac user giving me another irrelevant car anology.

doesnt matter how you slice it. cloud computing is only good for small files as someone else mentioned.

no need to get upset about the limitations set out by carriers. and no need to get upset over me pointing out those limitations as if I want them to be like that forever; because i dont. im giving you guys a dose of reality and a push for carriers to offer services people will want to use TODAY.

At this point in time, Cloud computing is only good for small files, I won't disagree with you there.

But at this point in time, the apple tree outside my house is only good for growing a few, small apples. But come next summer, it'll be even larger and grow more apples. We could laugh in the face of the tree, place a metaphysical limit on it with "can't" and "won't" and watch it stay the same forever. On the other hand again, we can support the trees development and watch it grow into an even bigger tree, capable of growing even more, larger apples.

I mean the following in the least disrespectful way possible, I could care less if somebody (somebody as in; anyone, everyone) wants to keep things "the same" and not support growth. We need people like this to continue to survive. Just like we need the "supporters". It's yin and yang, black and white. I agree with aspects of your theory, at this point in time, but that doesn't mean it can't get better with time. It definitely won't get better if we don't support it.

If car analogies don't suit you well, how about a computer analogy? How would a beta ever develop into an RC if nobody wants to test it because "betas are buggy and the bugs will always be there."

I hope you don't take my replies as bitter, rude or as a personal attack on your views. It's merely a different view on your perspective and a means of keeping my words per minute up to par.
 
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