Although I know a lot of people older than 25 that have an iPhone the iPhone demographic probably does have younger and 'casual' members as Palm, like RIM, comes from a business/professional background.
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Palm Opens Up Mojo SDK to All App Developers
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Lethal
My original post wasn't targeted at you... Remember you responded to my general-forum reply on the silliness of this pathetic arguing that Pre even comes close to the iPhone.
Don't start something you can't finish... asking for a slap, then asking why you got one doesn't work and just makes all of my points that much more valid.
You done? Or do you still want an apology?
I still think it is absolutely silly to argue about the potential of a new product with an already established and highly successful one.
But no one was arguing AGAINST it....thats the point.
A few select iPhone defenders got upset and just downplayed the Pre or insulted it.
THe phone is exciting...maybe not to you, but to many who found the iPhone didn't statisfy their particular needs. Blame the MacRumor team for putting this news in the main forum....but expect people to be annoyed when all they hear in a Palm Pre thread is "iPhone sold xxx amount more....PRE FAILURE"
You are very right.
I actually followed the Pre all the way up until it launched. Personally, I think it is a great little device.
My post was very clearly referring to the arguing over how it could, maybe and might become the next big thing and Apple "needs the competition" and "better look out", etc.
It's been only a month and even these numbers can't be used to estimate it's success. We don't know how big the bubble can grow, so there is no possible way to get an accurate estimate of marketshare for the device, so it makes the comparisons by a bunch of MacRumors trolls humorous.
I've had a Palm pre since week two and can type almost as fast on that little keyboard as I can on my Mac. You really do get used to it. After several months with the Samsung Messager and its crazy keyboard layout, the Palm pre is like a dream even though it's smaller
BTW, I was one of those disillusioned users who wondered why my pre didn't sync the songs I bought on iTunes. Suggestions would be appreciated!
Missing Sync and Doubletwist will sync yer Pre and your Mac but any DRM'ed media you have won't play on the Pre.I've had a Palm pre since week two and can type almost as fast on that little keyboard as I can on my Mac. You really do get used to it. After several months with the Samsung Messager and its crazy keyboard layout, the Palm pre is like a dream even though it's smaller
BTW, I was one of those disillusioned users who wondered why my pre didn't sync the songs I bought on iTunes. Suggestions would be appreciated!
Lethal
No, the Mojo SDK is a web oriented SDK which allows you to produce, in essence, webapps.
This means you cannot replicate all of the graphic and cpu intensive app which make up most of the AppStore apps.
IOW, anything you can find on the web can be duplicated, but that's it. So, you'll get some rudimentary tic, tac, toe and checkers, maybe chess (but that requires cpu power), well you get the idea.
Another monster missing element is having a non-phone like the iPod Touch, and sooner or later, some sort of tablet. Many universities are now requiring iPod Touches. Palm doesn't have an equivalent.
Ok the iphone is international with a huge amount of users, the palm pre is on the of the smallest carriers in the US. There is more of a incentive to create apps for the iphone over the palm. I don't think Apple has much to worry about...
Care to give some examples of graphic and CPU intensive apps for the Pre that were not created with the Mojo SDK?
Hooray! This is great news! I'm sure the Pre will become a very viable mobile device, hopefully to compete with the iPhone! Apple needs to be a little rattled right now... and Palm's the company to do it.
i dont believe apple's app store filled with cpu or gpu intensive apps.
and tell me how many iPhone owners have iPod Touch? the truth is iPhone has iPod touch covered, and other than lower the expense, there is no reason to produce a Pre PDA, since Pre does PDA already.
i dont know if apple need to worry anything because of Mojo, but Pre is going to be available soon in Canada and UK, and many other countries.
Not only that, Sprint isn't the smallest.
Its 3rd smallest at 40 million. So not exactly "small"
Almost downloaded it...
It's nice that you can develop for it on Linux, Mac n Winblowz, albeit using VirtualBox emulation...
As an existing iPhone developer, I was interested and almost downloaded it, but looking at the installation steps and language used, uglier than Apple styled help docs, I thought I'd give it a miss.
For possibly the same effort as developing on iPhone (unlikely once you get into the thick of it), you can have an app with possibly the same features as an iPhone app, but running on a slower handset with a tiny user base.
nice to have competition though... maybe all the wankers making fart apps can move to the Pre platform?
It's nice that you can develop for it on Linux, Mac n Winblowz, albeit using VirtualBox emulation...
As an existing iPhone developer, I was interested and almost downloaded it, but looking at the installation steps and language used, uglier than Apple styled help docs, I thought I'd give it a miss.
For possibly the same effort as developing on iPhone (unlikely once you get into the thick of it), you can have an app with possibly the same features as an iPhone app, but running on a slower handset with a tiny user base.
nice to have competition though... maybe all the wankers making fart apps can move to the Pre platform?
slower? too much of a guess from nothing, don't you think? how about try an real world app side by side? maybe pandora?
user base will grow, enough heads for you to make $$$ if you have some good stuff to show.
I downloaded it, will try out later....
I give Apple 1 week......
Given Apples hatred, directed at Palm....
I give Apple 1 week......to update OSX so the SDK won't work.
Given Apples hatred, directed at Palm....
I give Apple 1 week......to update OSX so the SDK won't work.
No, Apple doesn't have a patent on multi-touch. Not even close.
Err... that's 20 times, not 200.
Incidentally, during the time that the iPhone pre-sold 1 million, the relatively unknown Samsung Jet smartphone pre-sold *2* million. Does that mean the Jet is twice as good as the iPhone?
The same arguments were used against the iPhone when it came out. The first version had no apps, and only sold an average of ~13,300 units a day until its price dropped. It took until a remake with 3G and GPS before it really took off.
It'll be interesting to see what happens with Pre sales when its various models come to ATT and Verizon early next year.
Why are you guys bickering about this? If this boosts the Pre's marketshare, or makes it better, is there something wrong with that? It means more competition for Apple, and that means better iPhones for us, even faster.
And if not, then the Pre will get better, and I'll switch and get a better phone than I had previously.
Nothing wrong with that.
And if not, then the Pre will get better, and I'll switch and get a better phone than I had previously.
Nothing wrong with that.
some people here are apple stock holders, as well as many apple loyalists, they dont really care about bigger pictures, or what is good or not, they only care about apple's profit, quarter by quarter.
I totally agree. What I really hope is that the competition forces apple to (or AT&T- whoever it is) not only to improve their product, but to lower the monthly plan price. THAT would be GREAT.