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This is funny my wife just talking about this earlier tonight and I have to agree. Palm needs to fire their agency
 
The thing about these commercials is that you don't even know its for a pre until the end (don't know if it's been mentioned in this thread...)
 
If people buy things because of an ad, then what's irrational about NOT buying something because of an ad? I'm not speaking to you personally, but your post made me think of this. Ad's define a product and that's why advertising is such a significant portion of a company's budget. I'm just saying that personally the way that Apple advertises the Mac's keeps me away from them. The iPhone ads tell me what the phone can do as opposed to what other phones CAN'T do, which I find mature and probably had a little sway in my choice to purchase my first iPhone.

People don't buy things because of ads, they buy things because its a good product, even if an ad gives them that idea. Knowing that a product is good, and not buying it from an ad IS illogical.
 
i don't think the woman in the commercial is nearly as ugly as her diction. what an awful commercial, and I think that the Palm Pre is a quality smartphone....
 
Not a bad advert at all...merely a different take on advertising a product. Sure, the advert isn't to my taste and others, but it achieves it's goal. The narrative about the juggler clearly conveys the idea and benefits of multi tasking on the pre - the advert works.
 
In the end, an advertisement is usually deemed effective when people are talking about it after they've seen it; much like people are doing in this very thread. I too think that the girl in the commercial is super creepy, but it works to grab your attention, even if it's a "wtf was that?" kind of attention. I still don't like the commercials regardless, that girl needs a tan.
 
I have to say, I like the surreal quality of the Palm Pre commercials and can sorta get what they were trying to accomplish.

Do they want to make me go out and get a Palm? No, not really... Do they make me want to go out and LOOK at a a Palm and try one out? No, not really. Do they make me question my having an iPhone over a Pre? No, not really.

Then there's the question of the stoplight ad. This one make me think more of Bing than it did the Pre. "Bing, Bing, Bing..."

Some might argue that the iPhone ads have less "class," but they do stick with you and are on-message. There's something to be said when you're hanging out with friends or coworkers, some question comes up that we don't have an answer to, and a couple of us pull out our iPhones to look it up, jokingly reciting "there's an app for that!"

I agree. They pull off the surreal quality. I think it's jarring, and catches your attention because it's so different. But like you said, I don't want to go buy one.
 
Not a bad advert at all...merely a different take on advertising a product. Sure, the advert isn't to my taste and others, but it achieves it's goal. The narrative about the juggler clearly conveys the idea and benefits of multi tasking on the pre - the advert works.

exactly. It's really just different. Not "better" or "worse" just different.
 
Forget the commercial, the phone sucks. It's not an iPhone-killer at all. It glorifies the iPhone, while making itself a laughingstock. Palm's webOS is finicky, and the keyboard is small even for my teenage hands. And only 30 or so Pre apps. iPhone's got over 60K and counting. And they leech off of Apple stuff, like iTunes syncing. Once Palm realizes that their keyboard sucks and removes it, plus gets more than 1K apps, I think it has a real chance of competing against the iPhone.
 
PALM PRE sucks

8 GB memory limit
No true apps - only webapps (so weak)
No voice and data at the same time (because of Sprint CDMA network)
No voice dialing (WTF)
No video recording (WTF?)
No voice memos (WTF)
No movie rentals (over the air or otherwise)
No visual Voicemail
No TV show rentals
No audiobook purchasing
No true app store (18 is a joke)
No console-quality games (like Resident Evil, Metal Gear, 1000's of others for iPhone)
No Peer to Peer games
No VoiceOver (the iPhone can read any screen to you, just like a Mac)
No native in-car integration (iPhone has this with dozens of cars)
No podcasts
Crippled copy/paste (for example - you can't cut or copy a webpage or any part of it)
No universal search (crippled - no e-mail search)
Tiny keyboard (iPhone landscape and portrait keyboards are bigger than Pre's real keyboard)
No auto wi-fi login (just jumps on any open network and remembers them all)
No 7.2 Mbps network speed
No Remote Wipe
No Find My Phone feature
Can't function as a Remote for the household stereo (Great for parties, especially with the iTunes DJ feature where people can request songs)
Weak battery life
More expensive than iPhone
Very scratchable screen
No oleophobic protective screen
No real music store (Apple can break the compatibility at any time and I don't want to take that chance)
No Voice Commands (control music playing by saying "Depeche Mode" for example)
No Compass
No multiple and customizable home screens like iPhone (Pre only has one screen)
No Parental Controls
No Video Editing
No onboard Ringtone Creation
No 5 person conference calls
No Webclips

And now it's banned from iTunes.
 
Forget the commercial, the phone sucks. It's not an iPhone-killer at all. It glorifies the iPhone, while making itself a laughingstock. Palm's webOS is finicky, and the keyboard is small even for my teenage hands. And only 30 or so Pre apps. iPhone's got over 60K and counting. And they leech off of Apple stuff, like iTunes syncing. Once Palm realizes that their keyboard sucks and removes it, plus gets more than 1K apps, I think it has a real chance of competing against the iPhone.

I see your point but isn't this more about the commercial's success than the actual phone? I'm guessing you don't like it? lol
 
I don't recall the exact commercial, but can it be worse than the BlackBerry commercials? I think Hulu uses those a lot, and it's just a bunch of random crap floating together and magically forming a BlackBerry. Then it says "Life on BlackBerry." WHAT THE HELL IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN? And if you thought Apple's music was weird, that music is even worse.

I can at least give credit to Microsoft for trying to prove a real point with the Laptop Hunters ads. "Windows-based PCs are cheaper." Apple tries to convey that there's an app for just about anything, and the Mac/PC ads try to show why a Mac is better than a PC.
 
there just weird and they suck, but whats going on with the iphone commericals i havent seen one for awhile now

You haven't been looking very hard! :)

The iphone commercial lately is about the 3GS and the video capability and editing. Kind of makes it cooler than it actually is, but it's there. There's been one other, but I forget what it is right now while typing.
 
I see your point but isn't this more about the commercial's success than the actual phone? I'm guessing you don't like it? lol

I don't like the phone at all. The OS is actually pretty awesome but hindered by stuff like 8GB memory, almost no apps, slow processor, etc. The slider, according to a Palm Pre engineer, is finicky. I forgot where the original article was, but this guy who worked on developing the Pre, said the slider quality varies, from falling-off loose, to rock-solid hard. I see no advantages to using webOS on the Pre. Hardly any apps, and very selective Exchange support. But again, this perfectly describes the first gen iPhone with 1.x firmware.

I don't recall the exact commercial, but can it be worse than the BlackBerry commercials? I think Hulu uses those a lot, and it's just a bunch of random crap floating together and magically forming a BlackBerry. Then it says "Life on BlackBerry." WHAT THE HELL IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN? And if you thought Apple's music was weird, that music is even worse.

I can at least give credit to Microsoft for trying to prove a real point with the Laptop Hunters ads. "Windows-based PCs are cheaper." Apple tries to convey that there's an app for just about anything, and the Mac/PC ads try to show why a Mac is better than a PC.

PCs maybe cheaper but it's not the same hardware. A $600 PC won't give me the performance of an iMac.
 
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mackmgg said:
If people buy things because of an ad, then what's irrational about NOT buying something because of an ad? I'm not speaking to you personally, but your post made me think of this. Ad's define a product and that's why advertising is such a significant portion of a company's budget. I'm just saying that personally the way that Apple advertises the Mac's keeps me away from them. The iPhone ads tell me what the phone can do as opposed to what other phones CAN'T do, which I find mature and probably had a little sway in my choice to purchase my first iPhone.

People don't buy things because of ads, they buy things because its a good product, even if an ad gives them that idea. Knowing that a product is good, and not buying it from an ad IS illogical.

This is where you are wrong. People do buy things from ads which is why we have advertising. Do you think companys spend billions of dollars on advertising if it didn't cause people to buy their product? People that frequent forums are usually tech savvy enough to research on their own but that's a very small portion of the population. I don't see how this point can be argued any further unless you've gone to business school.
 
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This is where you are wrong. People do buy things from ads which is why we have advertising. Do you think companys spend billions of dollars on advertising if it didn't cause people to buy their product? People that frequent forums are usually tech savvy enough to research on their own but that's a very small portion of the population. I don't see how this point can be argued any further unless you've gone to business school.

There's no doubt in my mind that commercials influence people to buy products. Not only commercials, but almost every other type of advertisement as well. Some are more successful than others. Was this one a success?
 
PALM PRE sucks

8 GB memory limit
No true apps - only webapps (so weak)
No voice and data at the same time (because of Sprint CDMA network)
No voice dialing (WTF)
No video recording (WTF?)
No voice memos (WTF)
No movie rentals (over the air or otherwise)
No visual Voicemail
No TV show rentals
No audiobook purchasing
No true app store (18 is a joke)
No console-quality games (like Resident Evil, Metal Gear, 1000's of others for iPhone)
No Peer to Peer games
No VoiceOver (the iPhone can read any screen to you, just like a Mac)
No native in-car integration (iPhone has this with dozens of cars)
No podcasts
Crippled copy/paste (for example - you can't cut or copy a webpage or any part of it)
No universal search (crippled - no e-mail search)
Tiny keyboard (iPhone landscape and portrait keyboards are bigger than Pre's real keyboard)
No auto wi-fi login (just jumps on any open network and remembers them all)
No 7.2 Mbps network speed
No Remote Wipe
No Find My Phone feature
Can't function as a Remote for the household stereo (Great for parties, especially with the iTunes DJ feature where people can request songs)
Weak battery life
More expensive than iPhone
Very scratchable screen
No oleophobic protective screen
No real music store (Apple can break the compatibility at any time and I don't want to take that chance)
No Voice Commands (control music playing by saying "Depeche Mode" for example)
No Compass
No multiple and customizable home screens like iPhone (Pre only has one screen)
No Parental Controls
No Video Editing
No onboard Ringtone Creation
No 5 person conference calls
No Webclips

And now it's banned from iTunes.

Are you some kind of moron?

It took Apple TWO YEARS to get most of those features into the iPhone OS.

WebOS is a brand new platform. Most people realize it will take them time to catch up with Apple.

I don't understand why so many of you feel the need to bash any and all competition from other companies.
 
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