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Palm Pre Continues to Generate Interest at CTIA Mobile
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Maybe... But the day the iPhone was announced, (not released,) it made the nightly news and the next morning's paper. I don't think the Pre got this treatment from the press. Part of it, I'm sure, is that the Pre is another me-too device, about 2 years too late.
I think Apple also has the advantage of a simple naming system. It's iEverything. If an iCar was announced, everyone would suspect that it came from Apple. Apple's marketing is a lot more consumer friendly than Nokia with their Nokia SX73465G TalkMax 500Q or whatever. The Pre isn't a bad name, but again, it all gets lost between the lines. The Storm, the Bold, the Wind, the Super, the Whatever. It doesn't stick with average Joe like an iDevice.
I'd be interested in a poll where you ask people to name a touch screen phone. You couldn't do it on a tech site, of course, but I would bet that iPhone would take a pretty large percentage.
well yes. duh. Everyone thinks I don't know what it means to put in time and effort, good for you people. But given that you said the basis of what I was getting at, that their OS lacks features that could be done by apple but apple waits to do them (usually they don't think whatever they are working on is perfect). I just want them to use the first rule of design, steal. And take whatever goodness palm thinks of, and make it better.
I wonder about some of the posters in this thread with the whole "competition is good thing". It surely is; for a company. Is brand loyalty really so important that people are blowing this off like that? What if the Pre ends up being better then the iPhone, and Apple can't top it? Would you still stick with Apple,or go for the better phone, the Pre? (hypothetically) This has been bugging me for some time now. Personally, I'd just go with whatever phone had the features I wanted, not because of the company who made it.
Cell Coverage
I would do the same, I would go with the phone that has the best features for me and also of course has the best cell coverage in my area. Those two factors ultimately dictate what phone I will use.
I would do the same, I would go with the phone that has the best features for me and also of course has the best cell coverage in my area. Those two factors ultimately dictate what phone I will use.
To me it comes down to the phone in particular, as well as how it integrates with everything else I do, such as e-mail, music, applications, etc.
The thing with the iPhone is that it does tie in so well with everything else, so another brand would have to do that too for me to consider it.
I'm actually starting to like the Pre software a bit more. I wish the iPhone had a way of easily skipping between apps (going to Springboard and crap gets annoying when you're constantly skipping between two applications) and a way for notifications to not interrupt whatever you're doing.
Well seeing I own a Mac, iPod the next best thing was to get a iPhone.. It work very well with what I have because I am already using iTunes and it also sync up with all the rest of my stuff that is on my Mac without jumping through hoops. I love my 3G iPhone and I will get a new one next year when it is time to upgrade...
The new SDK added 1,000 new APIs and over 100 new features for developers and the only thing people remember after watching that 2 hour presentation is copy and paste.
I wasn't even using iTunes before I got the iPhone, using iTunes on windows was such a PITA it made me comfortable knowing that I wasn't missing anything special on a Mac. iTunes is, at the core, a database manager - a weak and limited one at that. (If you don't believe that, check your *.itdb file aka "dot iTunes database"). You can't copy smart playlists if you want a new list with only a couple modified rules? You can't sort by multiple fields? Sure, you can keep clicking on (for example), album to sort by album, album by year, album by artist. What about Album by artist by rating? Year by artist? Anything I use in windows with multiple fields can sort by a minimum of three fields, ascending or descending, in the order you specify.
It's workable once you get used to it, but I was carrying alone fine before it.
Everytime he said that it was referring to a video which, of course, makes no sense to continue to play while hidden. The only exception was Pandora, which he manually paused before switching apps.
Can't imagine going for a phone that has little of no apps and likely won't have any developer attention. Of course, at this point, it's like all of the iPhone killers which fall by the wayside since it's a lot easier to look good before anyone actually lays hands on it.
LOL - Have you seen the iPhone TV Ads!?
Not sure where you live but in the UK they have to put something at the bottom of the screen along the lines of "Procedural steps removed and speed not reflective of actual usage".
Now I'm not defending the Pre or the iPhone but to assume that Palm are doing something Apple (and other companies) don't do would be slightly naive.
I have an iPhone and I'm impressed about what they are saying about what the Pre can do. The biggest "win" for me is Synergy - pulling everything together into one calendar/email, etc.
Strange as it sounds, the Pre video has made me realise how many clicks it takes to do 'stuff' on my iPhone and as has been said in numerous posts, adding Contacts, Calendar entries on the iPhone is a slight pain. The only restriction to me is I have bought right in to the Apple ecosystem ... Apps, Music off the iTunes store, so an Apple device is important to me!
I will don my flame-retardant coat now!
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Anyone remember the Tapwave Zodiac PDA?
That thing was awesome! It was way ahead of its time as it was a gamers PDA It sported a fast processor, lots of memory, a high resolution screen, an analog thumbstick, one of those 4 button north, south, east, west clusters, and two trigger buttons on the side. It was like a smaller version of the PSP only it came out 2 or 3 years BEFORE the PSP!
In short, the hardware was phenomenal, but it didnt sell very well and died a quite death not long after it was launched.
WHY?
Software! Or more specifically, the LACK of software titles. This great gamers PDA only had a few titles. Sure, it could play all the Palm OS games, but it really needed games that took advantage of its joystick and only a few titles did. You can see why no one bought this thing.
IMHO that is why every iPhone Killer that comes out eventually fails. They dont have the sheer number of software titles that the iPhone has. If the Pre doesnt have 20,000+ apps available to the user then it will meet the same fate as every other iPhone Killer.
That thing was awesome! It was way ahead of its time as it was a gamers PDA It sported a fast processor, lots of memory, a high resolution screen, an analog thumbstick, one of those 4 button north, south, east, west clusters, and two trigger buttons on the side. It was like a smaller version of the PSP only it came out 2 or 3 years BEFORE the PSP!
In short, the hardware was phenomenal, but it didnt sell very well and died a quite death not long after it was launched.
WHY?
Software! Or more specifically, the LACK of software titles. This great gamers PDA only had a few titles. Sure, it could play all the Palm OS games, but it really needed games that took advantage of its joystick and only a few titles did. You can see why no one bought this thing.
IMHO that is why every iPhone Killer that comes out eventually fails. They dont have the sheer number of software titles that the iPhone has. If the Pre doesnt have 20,000+ apps available to the user then it will meet the same fate as every other iPhone Killer.
You just wait till people get their hands on it, we heard the same thing about the G1, Storm, heck even the bloody Instinct.
of course a superior product generates interests.
you don't really think the whole Giz crowded out there are dumb enough to ignore the leading innovation happening outside apple, do you?
apple isn't the world, somebody needs to step outside for a breath or two of real fresh air for a change.
you don't really think the whole Giz crowded out there are dumb enough to ignore the leading innovation happening outside apple, do you?
apple isn't the world, somebody needs to step outside for a breath or two of real fresh air for a change.
LOL... the iPhone is the same with just a bigger capacity. Looks like Palm has overtaking the iPhone in less than 2 years. So much for that 5 years ahead of the competition.
YES which is why they have sold zero webOS devices and Apple has 30 million iPhone OS devices sold, you better hope your company can get off life support.
Probably represents growing frustrations at seeing Apple's technological prowess and expertise being belittled, while other companies (often inferior) catch up technology is triumphed.