Reminds me of phones that had rotary dials years after keypads came out, quaint. There is always a market for old technology I guess.
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Palm Pre Continues to Generate Interest at CTIA Mobile
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Reminds me of phones that had rotary dials years after keypads came out, quaint. There is always a market for old technology I guess.
her voice and keyboard
why didn't they show the keyboard???
and her voice is extremely annoying!!!!
why didn't they show the keyboard???
and her voice is extremely annoying!!!!
For me it is about the use of OS X ... (as in it's the software). If a phone seemed to have a few more things at any given point in time I would not lose sight of the fact the iPhone is almost a mini Mac and so much can be changed by software alone. I know that under the hood is an OS from the best developers on the planet, so I'd hang in there for the iPhone and not be tempted away by some flash in the pan.
My first thought as soon as I saw the typed letters appearing. Where is it coming from?
From what I have seen the Palm Pre O/S really puts 3.0 to shame as far as looks, ability to multitask, etc. The Pre O/S looks slick, fresh, and new. The iPhone O/S looks dated by comparison.
Of course I love my iPhone and looks arent everything (usability is very important and the iPhone is proven here), but I definitely love what I am seeing from the Palm so far.
Isn't it great to have a well written app on a PC? I never cease to be amazed how well Bonjour, Quicktime, Safari and iTunes run on my PCs (on Vista, XP Pro and 7) but oh so nice to slide the chair over to my MacPro where everything is that good
Dude this phone was demoed two months ago, do you think Apple decided to start coding for 3.0 and designing future phones because of this Pre which hasn't sold 1 unit. If you are actually that naive to believe this, then you don't know Apple at all.
Apple know this, which is precisely why the Pre won't be competing against the iPhone 3G with iPhone OS 2.2.
We know more about the software the Pre will compete with (or parts).
Now all that remains are the services and hardware.
Looking better and better each time I see it. It won't be an iPhone killer, not a chance, it doesn't have anything unique to offer but a stolen inferface and backgrounding to those who know what it is.
I'm mostly anxious to see how this spurs improvement to the iPhone, hopefully reflected in the upcoming hardware revision.
I'm mostly anxious to see how this spurs improvement to the iPhone, hopefully reflected in the upcoming hardware revision.
I love how everybody is pinning the PRE against the iphone. NEWS FLASH!!!! NOT EVERYBODY WANTS AN IPHONE.
Some people have their hearts set on this device just because they have been long time palm users. Just like others have their hearts set on the iphone because of Apples superb OS.
The PRE has a very good chance at being a good phone, and only idiots go into thinking that everything that comes out is a iphone killer.
Some people have their hearts set on this device just because they have been long time palm users. Just like others have their hearts set on the iphone because of Apples superb OS.
The PRE has a very good chance at being a good phone, and only idiots go into thinking that everything that comes out is a iphone killer.
Will be getting one of these when it comes out immediately for my daughter. This amazing phone will keep Apple on its toes! Competition helps us consumers out by keeping complacency in check, doesn't it?
I think Gruber's recent article http://daringfireball.net/2009/04/complex bears talking about complexity, and taking time to do something is interesting, and relevant.
If Pre's angling the Pre to be a smartphone, fine. But Apple's not angling the v3 iPhone, from the looks of things, to be a "smartphone" by the current definition, or the definition of "smartphone" prior to the iPhone.
The reticence by Skype to get an app ready for Pre is a little telling.
It'll be hard to pigeonhole the next iPhone, (and to a lesser extent, those with OS3.0) - the capabilities from the applications and external peripherals that they'll start being able to communicate with.
Not seeing a price, nor a date is fair enough, but does the SDK really hold a light to Apple's ? We'll see, as it's a limited set of people getting access to it currently, so there will be fewer people who've seen both and are good enough to judge and describe. They're coming with more recent hardware - and it shows what ARM and other parts can do.
Whether multitasking is really relevant we shall see - being able to quickly flip between apps, that can do PNS might be a suitable alternative. Is dependent on speed, which hopefully new hardware will bring. Some of Pre's concepts still remain ahead of Apple's, as we know of them at the moment. In terms of preempting the user - maybe Apple will do it, maybe they won't. More a software implementation though?
If Pre's angling the Pre to be a smartphone, fine. But Apple's not angling the v3 iPhone, from the looks of things, to be a "smartphone" by the current definition, or the definition of "smartphone" prior to the iPhone.
The reticence by Skype to get an app ready for Pre is a little telling.
It'll be hard to pigeonhole the next iPhone, (and to a lesser extent, those with OS3.0) - the capabilities from the applications and external peripherals that they'll start being able to communicate with.
Not seeing a price, nor a date is fair enough, but does the SDK really hold a light to Apple's ? We'll see, as it's a limited set of people getting access to it currently, so there will be fewer people who've seen both and are good enough to judge and describe. They're coming with more recent hardware - and it shows what ARM and other parts can do.
Whether multitasking is really relevant we shall see - being able to quickly flip between apps, that can do PNS might be a suitable alternative. Is dependent on speed, which hopefully new hardware will bring. Some of Pre's concepts still remain ahead of Apple's, as we know of them at the moment. In terms of preempting the user - maybe Apple will do it, maybe they won't. More a software implementation though?
"THE RELEASE DATE IS STILL A MYSTERY..."
uuuuhhh.... if Apple's revision comes out before this, put a fork in it.
I'm sure Apple is busting ass to bust this product down. I'd buy an Apple product way before I take a chance on some other new-buggy-kid-on-the-block. Even if the price is half. I don't have time for fooling around with untried product... who does?
Maybe next year the Palm will be worth a look.
uuuuhhh.... if Apple's revision comes out before this, put a fork in it.
I'm sure Apple is busting ass to bust this product down. I'd buy an Apple product way before I take a chance on some other new-buggy-kid-on-the-block. Even if the price is half. I don't have time for fooling around with untried product... who does?
Maybe next year the Palm will be worth a look.
I said this at treocentral
the most revolutionary feature of the Pre is desktop level multi-tasking that allows multiple work-flows for user.
dont confuse it with those so called "background processes", the card system is vast superior than those.
and thats precisely apple's problem with iPhone, its not if they "know" it or not, which I agree with you, they absolutely "know it".
However, knowing it, doesn't mean they can do much about it, OSX is too big and bloated to run on a phone with true multi-tasking without causing problems in places like battery, speed, stability, etc.
I adore apple making a new direction for themselves and trying to crawl out of this situation, by promoting gaming, but boy, is apple really think playing games on iPhone will be that attractive? I think it will generate buzz, but not a long-term solution for iPhone's multi-tasking ghost.
Waiting for better hardware? maybe, if thats how apple thinks, then go ahead wait and see.
With Palm's amazing track record of delivering incremental improvements and updates to their current Palm OS, what possible reason could you have for not leaping on board with the Pré?
Ed Colligan has said the Pré will cost more than the iPhone because it is a better product, so I wouldn't hold out hope on the price either.
I actually use my phone for business, and value a physical keyboard when I need to bang out an email longer than a text message. One of the many reasons I am a Mac user but not an iPhone user.
Call it quaint if you like, but a physical thumb-board I can use without looking at the screen (or - almost as important - without taking up half the screen) is a non-negotiable feature for a lot of people who want to do more than play Super Monkey Ball with their phones.
For the most part, I agree. I prefer a physical keyboard. BUT, having the on-screen keyboard is essential for using multiple languages as my wife uses for work every day. Maybe not applicable to most, I concede.
Who has time to play Super Monkey Ball?
You "actually use your phone for business"? I don't understand this correlation between the physical keyboard and business. I sort of understand the "Taking up half the screen thing," but I pumped out an entire three page essay while I was on an airplane with just my iPhone, hardly painful to edit when I go back to a laptop, and it was actually a good paper. I REALLY don't understand what is the correlation between physical and business? If you say "I prefer a physical keyboard," then I 100% understand and agree with your decision, but "Physical keyboard is better for business and fast/long typing" makes zero sense to me.