I just looked up a meeting that I accepted ON my iphone and looked at the attendees... if they were in my address book to begin with, their contact information comes up... the same information that is on my phone... not a copy.
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I just looked up a meeting that I accepted ON my iphone and looked at the attendees... if they were in my address book to begin with, their contact information comes up... the same information that is on my phone... not a copy.
I like the Pre. You can feel that the phone's applications are well integrated with each other, communicate with each other in a more fluent way, with a better flow of information. For instance, calendar events have attendees that you can find in your contacts - they are the same, not copy of the existing information.
The pre also has a very clever way to start new or switch between opened applications, something that the iPhone cannot do (not 'opened' applications).
Worth mentioning: no save button needed when you enter data (notes, address book...).
That global search is great, let's see how the iPhone 3.0's spotlight compares in terms of ease of use.
Of course, a lot of the UI has been borrowed from the iPhone, because it's already so good. However, it's been substantially improved in some areas.
In summary, the Pre focuses on the information whereas the iPhone has so far focused on the applications. It focuses on the user whereas the iPhone has so far focused on the device. The Pre will be a device you like to use whereas the iPhone is a device you want to use (for some it's difficult to see the difference)
In my opinion, this new device will give the iPhone a run for its money.
A long, fast, competitive run. And that's good news
I completely agree. The webOS integrates all your contact information seamlessly (facebook messages, facebook IM, AIM, SMS messages, E-mail, phone, etc.) You make a fandango appointment and it adds it to the calander, etc. All of the apps communicate with each other, which is something the iPhone does NOT do nearly as well. Not to mention background processing.
Also, the demo unit is laggy because it's still in development - just like the iPhone 3.0 software is laggy and buggy.
... the iPhone has been out for almost 2 years, the Pre doesn't even have a launch date yet. I'm sure people will know about it once the commercials start showing up - just like with the iPhone
Really? Only a 90 day exclusivity contract for Sprint? Why would they even agree to something like that?
I agree that moving over to Verizon would open up a huge market for the Pre, but I'm just not sure what Sprint has gained from this deal. If I were considering a Pre, I would just wait for it to come to Verizon, especially if it's only a 90 day wait.
Like Apple with AT&T, neither Palm nor Sprint have been very open about the nature of their contract, but most of the reliable sources I've read seem to think it's 3 months, and even the lengthiest guesses I've seen say the exclusive will only run through the end of 2009.
In fact, this report claims Palm is already working on the GSM version of the Pre in hopes to have it ready for Christmas.
I don't think you understand: iSync was written by Apple, not Nokia. Nokia provide device specific plug-ins where required.
http://europe.nokia.com/A4299040
What? Havent you used it in Windows? The way it syncs in Windows is a joke. In OS X its good, all the apps have built in functionality and you dont have to do anything special, in Windows you have to open up itunes to blindly sync things and hope it works (which isnt often), you have no control over anything, its a scary experience since it might delete things. Its so crappy that I dont bother using it in windows except for music. Its not even close to being as good in Windows as it is in OS X.
yes indeed. The short time I have been arond here it seems a lot of people feel apple seem to be very conservative until push comes to shove.
Whether or not the Pre is a shove is yet to be seen but it seems to have awaken the designers at apple to perhaps give their iphone customers more of what the ones paying their salaries want instead of the ones getting paid to give us what they think we need
Your original assertion wasSlim02 said:
You seem to be trying to redefine your question to hide the fact that your assertion was WRONG.(I'd add flashy lights if I could)
And I hardly think of software written by the phone manufacturer to be third party - by definition they are party to the syncing process. It's just that bit more fluid with the iPhone because the phone manufacturer and the computer manufacturer are the same.
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I hope the Pre is a solid contender as that'll keep Apple on the ball and working to improve the iPhone. That said, come 3.0, it'll be hard for any phone to knock it off the top of the smartphone hill.
Good for palm. I hope this phone inspires apple to continue to progress their products to a higher level. I'm glad to see the apple's presence in the producing better products from all manufactures. I like the look of it, but I don't think its going to hold up against the iphone. Just look at what he said, just remember that the big thing I wanted to see was the push notification system. And how well that will work.
Yes, you clearly don't do programming, you haven't got the faintest clue that programming takes skill and time, and that's why these features took so long to get onto the iPhone OS.
I would say that Apple didn't want to do a Windows Mobile and not do things right from the start just to have a feature tick, like all those other phones do that are hard to use. In the long run Apple's lack of features early on will be totally meaningless because they're there now or soon.
As for multitasking, people here seem to think that keeping the main CPU on at all times running applications doesn't use up battery life. Apple's notification system will run on the baseband CPU which listens for specially formatted text messages (just like Blackberry) for notifications, allowing the main system to sleep and preserve battery.
However I would like it so that when the system is actually being used, applications can be moved to the background temporarily but still run (memory permitting), because the main CPU isn't sleeping then so the battery life issues aren't so worrisome.
Also, I would like to say that I think the Pre has decent hardware and a decent grounding for an operating system, but there are clear problems with the OS - no native applications (yet), apps are widgets that run in the browser using HTML5 local storage, etc. Neat, yes. I bet the iPhone's Safari will be able to do this as well soon enough too. However Palm's solution isn't so hot for native 3D games, etc, like the iPhone. It all depends on how good Palm's SDK will be down the line, and I don't think it will be able to match Apple (or Microsoft).
I really don't think Apple has anything to be afraid of. The iPhone isn't (and probably never will be) the most advanced in terms of technology, but that's not what it's about, and that's why it's a winner.
It doesn't desktop sync period. They made a big point about that during CES. It only syncs to the "web" (Facebook, etc). If you don't keep your personal info in the "cloud," this phone isn't for you.
There will be an SD media slot. Therefore you should be able to drag music, pictures and videos to it manually. Although, they haven't been playing up its media playback capabilities. It's not even listed as a feature on their web page.
http://www.palm.com/us/products/phones/pre/
Exactly, see my post #92. A flashy gadget cannot, alone, be an iPhone killer. You need both an iPhone and iTunes killer.
Way Over.
Overtly seductive. You are spot on. I'm looking forwards to the response to this ad. Clearly it's aimed at a certain kind of person hence the seductiveness.
Overtly seductive. You are spot on. I'm looking forwards to the response to this ad. Clearly it's aimed at a certain kind of person hence the seductiveness.
How can this be compared ?
I'm surprised at how people can compare what is seen in this video to what is actually available on the iPhone - this looks entirely like a mock-up. No delays for network latency, no actual input of text via a keyboard of any type, no details on the 'multitasking' capability which like was mentioned in an earlier thread looks more like cooperative task management - not true preemptive multitasking.
I think many people will be disappointed when they actually get their hands on one on these units.
I'm surprised at how people can compare what is seen in this video to what is actually available on the iPhone - this looks entirely like a mock-up. No delays for network latency, no actual input of text via a keyboard of any type, no details on the 'multitasking' capability which like was mentioned in an earlier thread looks more like cooperative task management - not true preemptive multitasking.
I think many people will be disappointed when they actually get their hands on one on these units.
What's an "iTouch"? Is that the hardware that catches fire in nylon pant pockets?
I take all comments here with the preconceived thought that everyone is taking this "demo" with a grain of salt. It shows what the Pre can do vs. how it works in real life. That of course is a wait and see approach.
I think The Pre looks good. But the iPhone has many huge advantages firmly in place.