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Palm Pre to Launch June 6th Priced at $199.99
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Nope. The $ a company would make on interest from a rebate pool would be a drop in the bucket. OTOH the money a company makes by not having to send a rebate out b/c a consumer forgot to send in the info, filled out the info wrong, misdirected mail, etc adds up to big money.
As for the time it takes to receive a rebate, that is due to 1) how much money the sponsoring company is paying the fulfillment co. and 2) to hopefully get the consumer to forget about the rebate so they don't check on it if it got lost in the mail, etc.
It will take some time
It is going to take some time and effort to have even a handful of the apps that currently exist for the iPhone. You just cannot focus on that enough.
Palm has funded, or developed the most popular ones (facebook, pandora .. etc) ... the development community is now going to have to reprogram the rest to yet another OS.
The iPhone is so little about hardware, and so much about the platform .. and the integration. With the iPhone and iTouch install base, erosion will be slow.
My Mac, iLife, MobileMe and iPhone integration works very well and Palm has struggled with this in the past. I finally have a PIM system that works.
This palm phone is going to encourage more competition and have a large impact on AT&T pricing! Apple will release a much nicer iPhone shortly after the Pre launch and that will make things interesting ...
It is going to take some time and effort to have even a handful of the apps that currently exist for the iPhone. You just cannot focus on that enough.
Palm has funded, or developed the most popular ones (facebook, pandora .. etc) ... the development community is now going to have to reprogram the rest to yet another OS.
The iPhone is so little about hardware, and so much about the platform .. and the integration. With the iPhone and iTouch install base, erosion will be slow.
My Mac, iLife, MobileMe and iPhone integration works very well and Palm has struggled with this in the past. I finally have a PIM system that works.
This palm phone is going to encourage more competition and have a large impact on AT&T pricing! Apple will release a much nicer iPhone shortly after the Pre launch and that will make things interesting ...
Very anxious for the June 6 release date. I'll be starting a new job in the next couple weeks that gives out Sprint phones for business. It's either the Pre or the HTC Diamond, and I have no interest in going back to WinMo. 
(I'll be keeping my personal iPhone 3G, too)
(I'll be keeping my personal iPhone 3G, too)
As much as love my iPhone, I will be jumping ship, and moving to the Pre. My iPhone is fantastic, but AT&T's service is dismal. I drop at least three calls a day, and outgoing calls can sometimes take up to 30 seconds to connect.
I was in New York City last weekend, and dropped two calls on 5th Avenue. AT&T is the absolute worst carrier that I've ever used.
I was in New York City last weekend, and dropped two calls on 5th Avenue. AT&T is the absolute worst carrier that I've ever used.
I had the same crap with both carriers, you might just be switching from a dismal ship to another dismal ship .. in the same ocean
I am gonna say as good as the Pre may be, Palm did a terrible mistake in choosing Sprint? Why a dying breed? Choose at least Verizon if you wanna go with cdma.
One experience can not be generalized for all. But for what it is worth - I know how happy I was once my two year contract was over with Sprint. Customer service just plain horrible. Many a times I got overcharges, especially during the first two months where they added all the data plans and told me its free for 1 month. My ass. They charged for that and store people were not willing to rectify it. Long story short, nothing can move me to go back to Sprint, even if iPhone was exclusive to Sprint.
That day, I returned to T-mobile and I am happier than ever!
One experience can not be generalized for all. But for what it is worth - I know how happy I was once my two year contract was over with Sprint. Customer service just plain horrible. Many a times I got overcharges, especially during the first two months where they added all the data plans and told me its free for 1 month. My ass. They charged for that and store people were not willing to rectify it. Long story short, nothing can move me to go back to Sprint, even if iPhone was exclusive to Sprint.
That day, I returned to T-mobile and I am happier than ever!
That doesn't make it exciting. Whether or not you agree I don't really care, but most features I hear about in 3.0 are features I expected from this OS in the first place. Sure Apple has reasons why these features were implemented now instead of earlier but that doesn't mean I find them the exciting. You are obviously excited about it which is great...but its stuff you basically find on Apple's OS X and since I use OS X this stuff doesn't seem new to me nor exciting. As for a camera, larger storage, video, these again are all things I expected out of the iPhone and I'm glad they finally might be included but that doesn't mean they are cool new exciting features to the market.
Palm has this new OS and it will be exciting to see how well it does and how well it works.
Whereas the iPhone already works, and the news surrounding it is kind of bland compared to what other people are doing.
No one ever said that 3.0 would be exciting and I hardly find this Palm device exciting. It's just another way of doing things on a phone that have been done for years and none of it is revolutionary.
Pre still looks like something made by Fisher-Price.
I like the iPhone but AT&T charges for every little feature. Never had problems with Sprint I didn't have with AT&T. Although the service is better.
Can't wait to read real world reviews, though.
I like the iPhone but AT&T charges for every little feature. Never had problems with Sprint I didn't have with AT&T. Although the service is better.
Can't wait to read real world reviews, though.
Please stop with the Sprint coverage bashing
It is really annoying how people complain about various cell provider coverage.
We can all basically agree Verizon has the best coverage.
However, the iPhone people are crazy if they think ATT coverage is decent anywhere in the USA except on the West Coast. All my iPhone toting friends in major cities on the East coast (such as Boston, NYC, DC) complain about endless carrier problems with ATT. I had an iphone, returned it because the coverage was just attrocious.
Sprint has been fantastic for me on the entire East coast. Never a dropped call or unable to get service.
Coverage and carrier quality all depends on where you live and travel.
It is really annoying how people complain about various cell provider coverage.
We can all basically agree Verizon has the best coverage.
However, the iPhone people are crazy if they think ATT coverage is decent anywhere in the USA except on the West Coast. All my iPhone toting friends in major cities on the East coast (such as Boston, NYC, DC) complain about endless carrier problems with ATT. I had an iphone, returned it because the coverage was just attrocious.
Sprint has been fantastic for me on the entire East coast. Never a dropped call or unable to get service.
Coverage and carrier quality all depends on where you live and travel.
Induction charging sounds nice until you realize that you need to add a different (and heavy) back on the Pre to pick up the induction current. Then you have to tote that weighty induction core within your phone all the time. I'm guessing it will add 40% to 50% to the weight of the Pre phone and maybe 20% to 30% to the thickness.
It's a gimmick that will be dropped within a year.
No, we cannot all agree that Verizon has the best coverage. It sucks in Chicago.
at&t is great in Chicago.
Sprint is awful in Chicago.
The only correct part of your post is the last sentence. It all depends on where you live and travel. You cannot just assume that Verizon has the best coverage because it doesn't.
Save for the fact that some people never mail in their rebate, a rebate allows the company to make back the amount of money you're saving, by actually charing you that extra $100 and investing it, often around three months, before the rebate returns. Given the size of corporations, they often can double $100 in three months with certain schemes to save you money.
So you really need to have $299 ready, as your $100 rebate won't come back anywhere near the date you send it in ... usually.
That was well thought out and insightful... and completely wrong on every single detail.
The back cover is a different material but it is the same size/weight.
http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/9684/palm-touchstone-hands-on-impressions/
Uh yes you and I were both commenting on the excitement and hype surround the two new phones this June. You a loyal apple fan will of course be excited to see what Apple does.
The Pre will be something new and judging from the rumors the iPhone hype, or lack of hype, will not be taking away from the Pre's hype. That was your initial comment concerning "poor apple," were you claimed people will be saying nothing about the pre after the iphone. 3.0 was your reasoning for a whole new device, which in fact isn't really anything new to most apple users, its just nice to see it on the mobile OS.
Since I have Sprint, I'll definitely be getting this. If Sprint had the iPhone, though, I would get the iPhone.
So, for me, it's going to be a combo of using an iPod Touch for the apps, video and wi-fi internet and a Palm Pre for phone calls, texting, mobile internet and phone camera.
So, for me, it's going to be a combo of using an iPod Touch for the apps, video and wi-fi internet and a Palm Pre for phone calls, texting, mobile internet and phone camera.
I thought that everyone knows that with mail-in rebates (1) the seller hopes that people forget to send in the mail-in rebates, (2) the seller will do whatever they can to find reasons why _you_ didn't fill out all the forms for the mail-in rebate correctly, so you won't get paid, (3) the seller hires people who often for no reason mislay the few forms that were hundred percent correctly fill out, and you have a severe fight on your hands.
What? Sprint is great in Chicago. I have never had any reception issues anywhere in the city.
I never said anything about people not talking about the Pre when the iPhone is released and 3.0 is out to the masses. What I said is that Palm and Sprint will die and the Pre will be a failure. People will talk about it...but it'll be about how badly this whole thing was executed.
I think you're getting me mixed up with someone else.
What? Sprint is great in Chicago. I have never had any reception issues anywhere in the city.
Godawful in Chicago. No reception, constant drops, can barely hear the other person.
I'd rather use T-Mobile.
So can you receive a phone call on the Pre while using data? Often times I'm using an app connected to the internet or Safari and I get a phone call. Hate to miss the call if you can't use both at the same time.
I'm pretty excited to see it released. I happen to agree that it will probably push innovation; as long as it's not a flop (a la BlackBerry Storm). If the phone is as good as everyone makes it out to be, then it gives all the people who don't like ATT another viable option for a great phone. And if the iPhone could take people away from other providers into ATT, why can't a phone that is supposedly this good take people to Sprint?
I think that had there been another really strong contender for the iPhone out there (in the market that it has) then we would have seen smaller features like cut and paste come faster, tbh. And hopefully this will turn out to be a device that will hasten the progress of all the devices.
Oh and someone said that RIM will never die...I beg to differ. What I see happening is this: they're getting /very/ popular with the younger generation (16-20), but at the exact same time, those people are using it for a year and then really starting to hate it. I know a few of my friends who have/want to switch from BlackBerry to iPhone after owning one...in fact, I fit in that category (had a BB Pearl before the iPhone).
I think that had there been another really strong contender for the iPhone out there (in the market that it has) then we would have seen smaller features like cut and paste come faster, tbh. And hopefully this will turn out to be a device that will hasten the progress of all the devices.
Oh and someone said that RIM will never die...I beg to differ. What I see happening is this: they're getting /very/ popular with the younger generation (16-20), but at the exact same time, those people are using it for a year and then really starting to hate it. I know a few of my friends who have/want to switch from BlackBerry to iPhone after owning one...in fact, I fit in that category (had a BB Pearl before the iPhone).
best buy
It says best buy is going to carry it but I wonder how the pricing is going to work for them. Best Buy doesn't do rebates so I'm not sure if they'll just offer it for $199 or what.
If you look at their pricing for air cards you'll see they are all free at best buy(no rebates which I know att does free after rebate)
It says best buy is going to carry it but I wonder how the pricing is going to work for them. Best Buy doesn't do rebates so I'm not sure if they'll just offer it for $199 or what.
If you look at their pricing for air cards you'll see they are all free at best buy(no rebates which I know att does free after rebate)