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Thanks for the head's up. Vzwinagent is a reliable poster and from what I have read he works at or owns a VAR, but is not a Verizon employee. So I believe that is what he is being told. What I don't believe is that Verizon will actually remove anyone's UDP after they have been able to AOL a UDP line. This is because of the terms of the CA and it would mean the person would have to be let out of the contract w/o an etf if they demanded it.

Now having said that, all of the new lines do have the asterisk on them so they could try to enforce that, but as I have posted here before there are huge contractual issues with them allowing the line to be created with a $29.99/mo data plan but then at some later time saying that the line must have a $30/mo data plan. But your average person isn't going to be able to successfully argue that to a rep and won't take Verizon to court over it.

However, how many times have we heard that the "Verizon Audit Team" was going to take away our UDP for using one of the methods to get a subsidized upgrade? Many. How many times did it actually happen? Never.

What about the UDP MHS feature trick? Remember when that was going to result in audits that took away your UDP? I do. Didn't happen.
 
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Thanks for the head's up. Vzwinagent is a reliable poster and from what I have read he works at or owns a VAR, but is not a Verizon employee. So I believe that is what he is being told. What I don't believe is that Verizon will actually remove anyone's UDP after they have been able to AOL a UDP line. This is because of the terms of the CA and it would mean the person would have to be let out of the contract w/o an etf if they demanded it.

Now having said that, all of the new lines do have the asterisk on them so they could try to enforce that, but as I have posted here before there are huge contractual issues with them allowing the line to be created with a $29.99/mo data plan but then at some later time saying that the line must have a $30/mo data plan.

And how many times have we heard that the "Verizon Audit Team" was going to take away our UDP for using one of the methods to get a subsidized upgrade? Many. How many times did it actually happen? Never.

What about the UDP MHS feature trick? Remember when that was going to result in audits? I do. Didn't happen.

I take it this "audit" is for UPD AOLs done after the 14th?

If done before then we should be good I would hope.
 
I take it this "audit" is for UPD AOLs done after the 14th?
There's not going to be an audit. And if I am wrong, this would be the first time Verizon ever did such an audit.

If done before then we should be good I would hope.
Idk what Verizon will or will not do. But I do know that they would run afoul of contract law if they removed UDP from the lines that were AOLed before the 13th.
 
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Since Verizon A) did it & B) allowed it & C) facilitated it (it being UDP AOL) they will have a tough time selling this line of bullpuckey to their customers let alone the courts

When you are a business you are held to a (much) higher degree of responsibility especially when it comes to dealing with the general public

If I were Big Red I would not want to argue this "idea" in front of a judge

Can you hear the judge asking Big Red's counsel " so exactly how is the paying Verizon consumer at fault here?"

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What is the point of having UDP if you have to pay for home internet, lol!

yeah, the Verizon signal is just not that great where I live. Neither are Sprint, AT&T or TMobile so it is a lack of towers.

For you guys / gals on the fringe reception areas if you can get just 1 bar of signal you could use a Yagi (beam) external antenna directed at your nearest Big Red tower and get a surprisingly stout signal. The Yagi is insanely effective when an omni directional is to weak
 
How do you know that? Only 1 of my 12 lines went to replace a TDP line. Every other person I gave a line to was a new Verizon customer.

Again, how do you know that? I would have never bought 12 iPhones full price, lol!

IMO if anything bummed out Verizon it was the $45/mo UDP MHS but all they had to do to stop that was not allow the $15/mo 30 min Loyalty plan to be put on a line with a data plan.

I think if they allow $34.99 plan,
$45 > $35.... they shouldnt really care either.....
 
For you guys / gals on the fringe reception areas if you can get just 1 bar of signal you could use a Yagi (beam) external antenna directed at your nearest Big Red tower and get a surprisingly stout signal. The Yagi is insanely effective when an omni directional is to weak

Would like to try that. I've struggled with a couple different Wilson antennas with my Jetpack, though. Have tried a couple directional ones (this one and this one) without much luck. I think that there may be too much junk (trees, hills, etc.) between my location and the tower(s).

Also doesn't help that, with outdoor antennas, a lot of the signal gain seems to be offset by the loss in the cable.

Had best luck so far with just an omni-directional stuck in the window.

Still not completely satisfied and always looking...
 

the more I look at this the more I think it's just made up malarkey similar to "and then a young Ginger Lynn came in and gave me a sponge bath" type made up malarkey

Verizon doesn't use terms like "remove" data plans etc since data plans are required they would never be "removed" the Verizon terminology is that a new transfer or new user would have to "migrate" to a currently offered (in this case tiered) data plan

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Would like to try that. I've struggled with a couple different Wilson antennas with my Jetpack, though. Have tried a couple directional ones (this one and this one) without much luck. I think that there may be too much junk (trees, hills, etc.) between my location and the tower(s).

Also doesn't help that, with outdoor antennas, a lot of the signal gain seems to be offset by the loss in the cable.

Had best luck so far with just an omni-directional stuck in the window.

Still not completely satisfied and always looking...

you've done everything right but you can't amplify a signal that does not exist so you may be just a tad too far away. Strange though of your getting any signal with an omni the yagi should have been a big improvment
 
you've done everything right but you can't amplify a signal that does not exist so you may be just a tad too far away. Strange though of your getting any signal with an omni the yagi should have been a big improvment

I haven't tried using an amplifier or anything - just antennas. I may just not be taking the time needed to properly position and aim the directional antennas or it may be something with my area. Or I may just not be doing something right. It seems like using the directional antennas gives a higher peak signal but that it fluctuates a lot more.

You've inspired me to play with the directionals again.

Using a pair of the omnis right now with my UML290, my RSSI hangs around -80 and my SINR hangs around 5 (better at night). At night, I can get around 20Mbps down and 5Mbps up. During the day, it's normally around 12Mbps down and 2Mbps up.

Still way better than dial-up....
 
Anyone with experience port in to page plus then port back to Verizon.
What is your account number? how about pin?
Thanks!

account number is your phone number, pin is the last 4 digits of your phone number
 
I think if they allow $34.99 plan,
$45 > $35.... they shouldnt really care either.....
Well they do care as they cut off the $40/mo plan. The $35/mo looks like a grandfathered plan from a regional carrier that Verizon acquired.
 
account number is your phone number, pin is the last 4 digits of your phone number

Thanks. I called in and they set a new pin. It was port back within an hour! Thanks! Much easier than gv.

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Both of those plans have to be super rare now. I've never seen the $40/mo plan.

They are. That's why the guy can sell it on eBay for 800 bucks.
I met someone with an alltel plan. Even her data only plan was 59.99. And Alltel is out of business for a while now. So $45 is definitely not too shabby. I just stick it onto my family share since we do use Verizon as a cellphone carrier..... I'd take 40 for 10 down/3 up any day.
 
I take it this "audit" is for UPD AOLs done after the 14th?

If done before then we should be good I would hope.

All verizon can do is close the glitch with apple. You can't go back and take away people's udp when the mistake was between verizon and apple, they have to honor and live with it. That's why all they did was closed the glitch. I totally agree with Julesjam
 
All verizon can do is close the glitch with apple. You can't go back and take away people's udp when the mistake was between verizon and apple, they have to honor and live with it. That's why all they did was closed the glitch. I totally agree with Julesjam
To be clear, they can take it away, they just have to give you written notice and then if you object w/in 60 days of receiving that written notice they have to let you out of your contract w/o an etf.

What Verizon giveth, Verizon can taketh away. They just have to let you out of your contract w/o an etf if they taketh away.
 
Wait, you mean to say you ported out and back in within an hour?!

8? If I started earlier maybe little shorter. Started last night around 11 pm. It was out by 1230am.
Since page plus nor Verizon has CSR after midnight, I resumed this am after 8am.
Everything was done around 9ish
 
To be clear, they can take it away, they just have to give you written notice and then if you object w/in 60 days of receiving that written notice they have to let you out of your contract w/o an etf.

What Verizon giveth, Verizon can taketh away. They just have to let you out of your contract w/o an etf if they taketh away.

They wouldn't take that route because they would lose a lot of customers and those customers can go to competitors. I know I would definitely go with Sprint if that happens.
 
Good luck with Sprint. I believed all their network improvement nonsense. Hahaha they are such liars. I live in a city with at least 250k people and calls cut in and out, calls dropped, data is horribly slow (even on "LTE"). Sprint really needs to get their act together because their network SUCKS
 
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