Part II - UDP For Life

[JulesJam]

I did terminate the ME line about a month ago, account was totally payed up. I can still log into myverizon, but I get a message:

Your wireless account has been disconnected.

No, you need to register this new phone number for online access. It should be a separate account since you disconnected service.

JulesJam, I will read more about the SIM card trick you mentioned, but is this something I should be concerned about, ie will I be able to activate with a different sim?

It should be fine if they can get the iP5s off of the line.

Should I contact verizon now and cancel the AOL transfer? I think I have 14 days to do that.

First register the new number for online access and let's see what is going on.

You may need tier 2 tech support to help you.

 

[SonRK]

Okay, so there seems to be new issues that may arise regarding the same phone on two lines or something?

I was just wondering if I am at risk for potentially screwing up any transfers. This is what I generally do:

Open box
Activate Phone, make a phone call/test Safari
Take out SIM card
Factory Restore
Put it back in the box


I then go to My Verizon and make sure it has unlimited data, and then proceed with AOLing if I am giving the line away.

 

[didiee]

No, you need to register this new phone number for online access. It should be a separate account since you disconnected service.

It should be fine if they can get the iP5s off of the line.

First register the new number for online access and let's see what is going on.

You may need tier 2 tech support to help you.

so bottom line, Jules?
put a PDI before AOL it off to someone??

 

[JulesJam]

Can't he walk into Verizon get s SIM card? Since now he owns the line?

Yes but the in-store reps are evil and will likely say the problem is that you aren't supposed to be able to AOL a UDP line which is entirely false. But I guarantee they would say it.

Or is the problem because the phone is still on his old line?

While it could be a SIM card issue with the iP5 SIM card, how likely is that given it was working fine just a month ago and he never took it out of the phone? Extremely unlikely.

My fear is that these SIM card tricks create unforeseen consequences b/c whether or not anyone here wants to believe me - VERIZON'S NETWORK IS NOT A GSM NETWORK - IT IS A CDMA/LTE HYBRID NETWORK AND THERE IS A DEVICE MANAGEMENT DATABASE THAT ACTS AS A GATEKEEPER TO THE CDMA NETWORK.

With LTE only devices you can get away with the SIM card tricks easier b/c those devices aren't trying to access the CDMA network. But a phone is.

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so bottom line, Jules?
put a PDI before AOL it off to someone??

I would - tell the buyer they cannot suspend w/o billing with the PDI on the line and have to be ready to put a Verizon 4G LTE smartphone on the line upon receipt.

Also - warn them if they put a basic phone on the line they will lose their UDP b/c the data plan will drop off and they won't be able to get it back. In reality they probably could get it back with an IPR, but with these new lines, who knows.

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Okay, so there seems to be new issues that may arise regarding the same phone on two lines or something?

I was just wondering if I am at risk for potentially screwing up any transfers. This is what I generally do:

Open box
Activate Phone, make a phone call/test Safari
Take out SIM card
Factory Restore
Put it back in the box


I then go to My Verizon and make sure it has unlimited data, and then proceed with AOLing if I am giving the line away.

If the person receiving the line puts a Verizon phone on the line right away, it should be fine. But if they don't, the person receiving the phone may have issues activating it b/c it will still be on the line you AOL'ed.

Buy a cheap Verizon 4G LTE phone with a cracked screen that still works and put that on the line to get the iPhone off. Then when you AOL the line, have the rep put the PDI on the line.

 

[SonRK]

[/COLOR]If the person receiving the line puts a Verizon phone on the line right away, it should be fine. But if they don't, the person receiving the phone may have issues activating it b/c it will still be on the line you AOL'ed.

Buy a cheap Verizon 4G LTE phone with a cracked screen that still works and put that on the line to get the iPhone off. Then when you AOL the line, have the rep put the PDI on the line.

Ah, I see.

Okay what about just putting my main SIM card in the new phone, which bumps it out, then put it back into my main phone.

Still a possible issue? I was doing this during the beginning of this exploit until people found out you can just activate it with the included SIM.

 

[hommer1979]

Took some waiting but I think I got it. They made it effective tomorrow for the new billing cycle so as long as it shows up then I'm good.

Thanks everyone.

I'm I missing anything from my screen for me not to get the up option on apple site

 

[JulesJam]

I'm I missing anything from my screen for me not to get the up option on apple site

Get rid of the texting plan and do payg texting.

Also, did you scroll all the way to the right to see all of the data plans?

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Okay what about just putting my main SIM card in the new phone, which bumps it out, then put it back into my main phone.

That's Marky's trick but it means you have the same phone on 2 lines - your main phone is on your line and the new UDP line simultaneously.

That is the kind of stuff that can cause you problems with Verizon's CDMA network.

 

[tjohnstone3]

Get rid of the texting plan and do payg texting.

Also, did you scroll all the way to the right to see all of the data plans?

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I was able to add a UDP line w/ unlimited texting on my plan.

 

[JulesJam]

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I was able to add a UDP line w/ unlimited texting on my plan.

But he isn't so he can try removing the UL texting and see if that works. Maybe it will maybe it won't but worth a try.

 

[gdiebel]

No, you need to register this new phone number for online access. It should be a separate account since you disconnected service.

It should be fine if they can get the iP5s off of the line.

First register the new number for online access and let's see what is going on.

You may need tier 2 tech support to help you.

How do I get a registration pin since I can't have it texted to my number?

I did talk to tier 2 guy, he is sending new sim.

 

[JulesJam]

How do I get a registration pin since I can't have it texted to my number?

I did talk to tier 2 guy, he is sending new sim.

call for the pin then.

 

[hommer1979]

Get rid of the texting plan and do payg texting.

Also, did you scroll all the way to the right to see all of the data plans?

That was the entire screen shot, I''ve been on the phone with 3 different reps already. The first 2 keep on telling my udp will be gone if I make any changes. 3rd rep knew exactly what I wanted to do. In process of changing the plan now.

 

[JulesJam]

That was the entire screen shot, I''ve been on the phone with 3 different reps already. The first 2 keep on telling my udp will be gone if I make any changes. 3rd rep knew exactly what I wanted to do. In process of changing the plan now.

ikr, unbelievable how many of them do not know what they are doing.

Hopefully 700 min single line family share plan with payg texting and UDP will work for you. It worked for my friend and then I AOLed the line from him.

 

[Delmar]

How do I get a registration pin since I can't have it texted to my number?

I did talk to tier 2 guy, he is sending new sim.

I had the same situation since I didn't have a phone on my UDP line yet. I used the verizon chat to get a customer service rep to set it up for me.

 

[JulesJam]

I had the same situation since I didn't have a phone on my UDP line yet. I used the verizon chat to get a customer service rep to set it up for me.

I always forget about chat - good idea!

 

[hommer1979]

ikr, unbelievable how many of them do not know what they are doing.

Hopefully 700 min single line family share plan with payg texting and UDP will work for you. It worked for my friend and then I AOLed the line from him.

Apparently the only thing the 3rd rep did was lower my bill by about $20 for 3 mins and then after I hung up it went back to unlimited text and the bill also went back up. Did she click the undo button ? Rep # 4 where you at

 

[didiee]

If the person receiving the line puts a Verizon phone on the line right away, it should be fine. But if they don't, the person receiving the phone may have issues activating it b/c it will still be on the line you AOL'ed.

Buy a cheap Verizon 4G LTE phone with a cracked screen that still works and put that on the line to get the iPhone off. Then when you AOL the line, have the rep put the PDI on the line.

Can get expensive if I have more than a line I want to move at once.
I will just have to make sure it goes away with pdi and tell the buyer get the phone on it asap. But no dumb phone on it!

 

[hommer1979]

so bottom line, Jules?
put a PDI before AOL it off to someone??

what's pdi ?

 

[JulesJam]

Apparently the only thing the 3rd rep did was lower my bill by about $20 for 3 mins and then after I hung up it went back to unlimited text and the bill also went back up. Did she click the undo button ? Rep # 4 where you at

Strange. Did they put the change in not to take effect until the next billing cycle?

 

[JulesJam]

I did talk to tier 2 guy, he is sending new sim.

Also, make sure you have WiFi off and cellular data enabled. The phone won't re-activate unless that is true.

 

[hommer1979]

so bottom line, Jules?
put a PDI before AOL it off to someone??

Strange. Did they put the change in not to take effect until the next billing cycle?

rep # 4 was totally confused , #5 changed it to pay as i go text. Went and test it out on apple site to add a line...no go. Anything else I should try ?

 

[JulesJam]

rep # 4 was totally confused , #5 changed it to pay as i go text. Went and test it out on apple site to add a line...no go. Anything else I should try ?

So how many lines in your main account? And which lines were you able to see the UDP option on b/f the subaccount?

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Has anyone else had the experience where the apple store is showing a device as available when you select a particular store for p/u, but then when you go to put it in your cart it says it is not available?

This has been going on for hours now. I keep clearing cookies, etc. istock shows the devices as available, too.

 

[hommer1979]

So how many lines in your main account? And which lines were you able to see the UDP option on b/f the subaccount?

I tried it on 2 different lines , both had the option. Current account has 4 lines, the screen shot above came from a udp subaccount

 

[JulesJam]

I tried it on 2 different lines , both had the option. Current account has 4 lines, the screen shot above came from a udp subaccount

Then add the lines to the plan in the main account and then move the new lines to the subaccount in order to make room for more new lines in the main account.

 

[didiee]

So how many lines in your main account? And which lines were you able to see the UDP option on b/f the subaccount?

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Has anyone else had the experience where the apple store is showing a device as available when you select a particular store for p/u, but then when you go to put it in your cart it says it is not available?

This has been going on for hours now. I keep clearing cookies, etc. istock shows the devices as available, too.

Doesn't that usually mean someone snatched it?

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rep # 4 was totally confused , #5 changed it to pay as i go text. Went and test it out on apple site to add a line...no go. Anything else I should try ?

You signed in apple with udp number right?