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Part II - UDP For Life
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I completed my UDP line that I received, and I wanted to change the minutes from nationwide 1400 to one of the single line plans without losing the unlimited data. Is this possible? The representative over the phone said that if I did so, I would lose my UDP.
You should be able to do so, try calling again & see if the next rep can get it done for you.
Yes, call the AOL department 888-832-4540 and tell them you want the line changed to a nationwide single line plan and you want the UDP to remain. You will need to specify the number of minutes and text options. If they say they can't do it, hang up and call back M-F during business hours.
If you can tell them the price this helps them to find the plan for you:
If you AOL a line again, tell the seller to change the plan to what you want b/f you AOL it.
If you are looking to put a MiFi device on the line, you can go down to 30 minutes, no texts for $15/mo with UDP for $30/mo.
If I've already assumed service and am running a phone, can I still change the plan without losing the UDP?
Yes but the AOL department is better at it than the regular reps. The AOL department will do it for you even though you have already completed the AOL.
Where is this printed? Have seen this this before but no documentation to refer VS rep to.
Jules, are you certain the 30 min plan doesn't do away with UDP. I just had a rep check with 2 supervisors who swear it does away with UDP as it requires you to "re-up" you contract.
The rep had unlimited data herself and was sensitive to losing it... She also mentioned that why it doesn't warn the reps that it will do away with UDP, that it actually would.
Any thoughts? Just a paranoid rep?
The rep had unlimited data herself and was sensitive to losing it... She also mentioned that why it doesn't warn the reps that it will do away with UDP, that it actually would.
Any thoughts? Just a paranoid rep?
EXACTLY my experience except for some reason the first time I called Verizon to port back in they told me I had to wait and it couldn't be done. I probably called too soon after porting out the number.
I am certain I was told by the rep when I called that it wouldn't and I am certain that I read here that someone AOLed a UDP line to a guy who then asked for the cheapest minutes they had and he was given the 30 minute plan and kept UDP.
If you really want that plan, what I would do is when you get a new line call the AOL department and ask them to convert it to the 30 minute plan and keep the UDP. If you lose UDP, return the phone and cancel the line w/in 3 days and you won't be charged even the activation fee.
I would not call 611 to do this b/c they may not be able to make plan changes as freely as the AOL department is.
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Correct, it does not work. Neither does the online port option through apple.com when you add a new line. All apple is doing to set up the port is connecting to Verizon's system, which we all know doesn't work.
Hopefully this will settle it and we won't have people annoyingly asking over and over again if they can use the port option through apple when they add the line and no matter how many times you tell them "no" they keep asking about it.
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From what I have read here, it converts you to a 1 year contract for sure if you have less than 1 year on your current contract. I also asked here what happens if you have a 2 year contract - does it convert it to a 1 year contract? No one knows until someone tries it.
If you start seeing $44.99/mo 1 or 2 year 30 minute plans with UDP being sold on ebay, then you will know it works and that someone read about it here but didn't post back to tell us it worked b/f they started selling the lines on ebay.
I have been busy the last couple days & haven't looked at the local craigslist lately. As of this morning there are more UDP lines for sale than I have seen in a while. They're asking from $150 - free. I think it's gonna be a while before UDP lines are worth much again.
All depends on when this glitch closes. Also the double the data ME promo right now is appealing to people.
Are the Space Grey iPhones the most popular color? Does the silver sell well? Seems to me like SG is the most popular for resale. What does everyone else think?
I have mostly silver and gold available where I live which leads me to believe people want the SG the most.
I have mostly silver and gold available where I live which leads me to believe people want the SG the most.
I've noticed that with the iPads Space Gray sold more quickly this year, as well. With the iPhones, I think gold is a bit less popular since it makes the rubber antenna bands stand out more. They blend in a bit better on the silver and space gray. Actually, I'm a bit surprised Apple didn't use gold-colored rubber, or just wide plastic bands across the top and bottom.
That's the key to the UDP market, the "Glitch". I'm sure it won't take but around 3 months give or take for the UDP value to go back up some after the "Glitch" is gone.
I have a 1400 minute Nationwide family plan with 5 lines, 4 with UDPs one with 2GB TDP. All these lines have the $20 talk txt and data discount so monthly bill is less than $200/month.
Would like to get rid of 2GB line and replace it with UDP. Don't mind paying ETF on the 2GB line and don't have to keep the same number.
How would I do this? Have spent hours reading and still have questions.
1. I understand I need to create a subaccount. If I move the 2gb line onto it, will the monthly fee change/increase? Currently pay $20/month for with unlimited texting.
2. What happens if I move some of the UDP lines into the subaccount? Currently only pay $19.99/line with unlimited data and texting.
3. What if I create the subaccount and can't add UDP on apple.com (conflicting information about whether it can be done since I have corporate discount, unlimited text, mobile to mobile minutes, etc). Can I merge it back into my main account?
4. If I can successfully split and add new UDP lines without significantly increasing my bill/line, I would also like to add another UDP line and use it for home internet so I can cancel current Internet provider.
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It seems that way to me. The local Apple stores here seem to have Gold 6 & 6+ in stock & the SG & Silver sell out quickly.
But is it worth waiting for the SG if I can get the silver now? Is there a difference b/t SG and silver in terms of resale?
I don't think I want to be the sacrificial lamb in testing the 30 min plan. I have 9 extra lines I need to get rid of, the market is clearly saturated.
Like anything the market value of these lines will go back up, probably best to suspend the lines for now and wait until next year. Doesn't look like this frenzy of adding lines will end until iPhone supply catches up with demand.
I have faith that UDP lines have inate value in the $100 range but clearly not in the present. No need to freak out now and fire sale these when there is the option to suspend w/o billing for 6 months.
Like anything the market value of these lines will go back up, probably best to suspend the lines for now and wait until next year. Doesn't look like this frenzy of adding lines will end until iPhone supply catches up with demand.
I have faith that UDP lines have inate value in the $100 range but clearly not in the present. No need to freak out now and fire sale these when there is the option to suspend w/o billing for 6 months.
Yes - the TDP line now will be a single line 1400 minute NW FS plan of its own. You can have the AOL rep change it to the 450 NW individual plan with UL texting to reduce the cost to $90. But if your goal is to terminate this line and port the number to the new UDP line, I would just suspend it w/o billing while you do the port.
AFAIK, the $20 T&T data discount is not a plan feature - it is a line discount and there is no way to get it on a line now. So you could replace the TDP line with a UDP line but the UDP line would not have the $20 T&T data discount.
You could try it and see by moving the TDP line to a subaccount, suspend it w/o billing, then add a UDP line to your FS and see if it has the discount. If not, return the phone and cancel the line then merge the TDP line back into the FS plan.
They would be on a separate 1400 min FS plan than the main account lines.
Yes you can but you can't merge them as family share plans, the subaccount line must be converted to individual plan b/f merging back into the FS plan.
You have to be careful doing this b/c the reps will convert them to the UL T&T 1GB loyalty individual plan to do the merge and on their end for some strange reason they will see UDP but by the time all is said and done, UDP will be gone. I lost UDP on a line this way. The rep swore she was seeing UDP but it was gone.
The way it has to be done is to convert to the 450 min NW individual plan with UDP then merge back into the FS plan in the main account.
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It is purely a supply and demand thing. Once the supply dries up, the price will go up.
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And if you could deliver a $44.98/mo UDP line with a 1 year contract, you could move your lines faster I am sure b/c that would be a great deal for a MiFi or tablet line and currently, no one is offering it for sale so limited supply.
Not trying to tell you to do it, just pointing out the advantages of the "product".
The market value of things doesn't go up unless the supply/demand dynamic pushes it up.
And hope that Verizon doesn't stop allowing you to AOL lines with UDP intact. ATT doesn't allow it, although I know people say you can get phone reps to do it. But officially it is not allowed. There is nothing stopping Verizon from saying UDP lines can't be AOLed. It would probably end up like ATT in that it would be a YMMV kind of thing depending on the rep you got on the phone. However, it would make the AOL process a ton more time consuming and risky.
The price of a UDP line has nothing at all to do with iPhone supply or demand. It is entirely about the UDP line supply/demand dynamic.
Did you not take ECON 101 in college? Nothing has inate value. Things are worth what people are willing to pay for them and what people are willing pay for them is determined by supply and demand.
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Does anyone, preferable who had taken Econ 1000, know if you can suspend the whole account? If I have five lines on my family share, can I suspend all five lines?
Thanks.
Thanks.
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