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Part II - UDP For Life

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didiee said:
Does anyone, preferable who had taken Econ 1000, know if you can suspend the whole account? If I have five lines on my family share, can I suspend all five lines?
Thanks.
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I have all 3 lines in my mother's name suspended w/o billing. No active lines in that account. All 3 lines have the same iP5s on them, lol! As I posted before, different SIM cards though.

You can't add a line to the FS though unless at least 1 line is active IIRC. So you would have to reconnect the line, then add a line. I would wait to resuspend the lines until the new line was activated.

Has anyone tried to suspend a line w/o billing that does not yet have a phone on it?
 
Sorry for expressing any sort of optimism here. Wasnt meaning to get literal in my analysis of the UDP market. Also who says I went to college (kidding).

Gonna give the 30 minute plan a shot, worst case I end up paying ETF.





JulesJam said:
Yes - the TDP line now will be a single line 1400 minute NW FS plan of its own. You can have the AOL rep change it to the 450 NW individual plan with UL texting to reduce the cost to $90. But if your goal is to terminate this line and port the number to the new UDP line, I would just suspend it w/o billing while you do the port.

AFAIK, the $20 T&T data discount is not a plan feature - it is a line discount and there is no way to get it on a line now. So you could replace the TDP line with a UDP line but the UDP line would not have the $20 T&T data discount.

You could try it and see by moving the TDP line to a subaccount, suspend it w/o billing, then add a UDP line to your FS and see if it has the discount. If not, return the phone and cancel the line then merge the TDP line back into the FS plan.

They would be on a separate 1400 min FS plan than the main account lines.

Yes you can but you can't merge them as family share plans, the subaccount line must be converted to individual plan b/f merging back into the FS plan.

You have to be careful doing this b/c the reps will convert them to the UL T&T 1GB loyalty individual plan to do the merge and on their end for some strange reason they will see UDP but by the time all is said and done, UDP will be gone. I lost UDP on a line this way. The rep swore she was seeing UDP but it was gone.

The way it has to be done is to convert to the 450 min NW individual plan with UDP then merge back into the FS plan in the main account.

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It is purely a supply and demand thing. Once the supply dries up, the price will go up.

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And if you could deliver a $44.98/mo UDP line with a 1 year contract, you could move your lines faster I am sure b/c that would be a great deal for a MiFi or tablet line and currently, no one is offering it for sale so limited supply.

Not trying to tell you to do it, just pointing out the advantages of the "product".

The market value of things doesn't go up unless the supply/demand dynamic pushes it up.

And hope that Verizon doesn't stop allowing you to AOL lines with UDP intact. ATT doesn't allow it, although I know people say you can get phone reps to do it. But officially it is not allowed. There is nothing stopping Verizon from saying UDP lines can't be AOLed. It would probably end up like ATT in that it would be a YMMV kind of thing depending on the rep you got on the phone. However, it would make the AOL process a ton more time consuming and risky.

The price of a UDP line has nothing at all to do with iPhone supply or demand. It is entirely about the UDP line supply/demand dynamic.

Did you not take ECON 101 in college? Nothing has inate value. Things are worth what people are willing to pay for them and what people are willing pay for them is determined by supply and demand.
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Got another AR - I had 10 pending applications open due to checking out and not getting a phone. They closed them out for me. I was able to see CORe's phone number but I don't think they will speak to anyone other than their 3rd party retailer's employees.
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Hey Jules, which dept did you speak with to get those applications closed? I think I am in the same boat as you were.

thanks!
 
dsa420 said:
Gonna give the 30 minute plan a shot, worst case I end up paying ETF.
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Please post back!!!

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MacRumours101 said:
Hey Jules, which dept did you speak with to get those applications closed? I think I am in the same boat as you were.

thanks!
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I got an AR in-store and apple rep called CORe. The CORe rep said I had too many pending applications and I told the apple rep to tell them to close them b/c all of the others were failed attempts to get a phone.

You can't call CORe directly as a customer but you can call 611 and explain the situation to them and get them to do it for you. That is how I got a cancelled line pushed through to completion same day I returned a phone.
 
finally got myself UML295 for $40 shipped !! patience pays ! :D

What kind of Antenna you guys recommend ?
 
dsa420 said:
Sorry for expressing any sort of optimism here. Wasnt meaning to get literal in my analysis of the UDP market. Also who says I went to college (kidding).

Gonna give the 30 minute plan a shot, worst case I end up paying ETF.
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You're the boy genius?! Or maybe you're still in high school and starting your own udp business? :)
 
I'm at Apple Store now. Verizon activation servers are all down they are telling me... Hmmm..
 
CONFIRMED! If you an individual plan with unlimited everything - talk, text and data - and can't add another UDP line, all you have to do is drop your unlimited texts down to 1000 texts and you can add a new UDP line.
 
JulesJam said:
CONFIRMED! If you an individual plan with unlimited everything - talk, text and data - and can't add another UDP line, all you have to do is drop your unlimited texts down to 1000 texts and you can add a new UDP line.
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Is this something new?
 
JulesJam said:
I had trouble accessing my Verizon account today.
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I had some issues yesterday but today it seems fine. And some 312 number showed up!

Perhaps they are updating their systems for the promotion plans. The "order glitch" is still up. I suspended my "original" account w/o billing yesterday, so now it's the waiting game for the market to improve so I can unload my extra UDP.
 
markyr17 said:
Is this something new?
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She was having issues adding lines to a plan with unlimited text before. So this quirk is indeed quirky. Apparently, you can add UDP to a line with NW 450, 900, or UL minutes, but not if it also has UL text.
 
markyr17 said:
Is this something new?
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I asked about it several times and no one would confirm it for me. Now I had a friend do it so I know for sure it works.

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KPOM said:
She was having issues adding lines to a plan with unlimited text before. So this quirk is indeed quirky. Apparently, you can add UDP to a line with NW 450, 900, or UL minutes, but not if it also has UL text.
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Exactly! It was my friend I was trying to help. She had UL everything and all she got when she tried to add a line was the ME data plan options.

Do you know if when she actually goes to add the line, if she picks unlimited everything will that cause problems with activation? I told her to pick payg texts for sure, but not sure of the minutes. Then when she activates the phone she can switch the plan to UL minutes and texts.
 
Hey Jules I got my Nexus 6 in yesterday, I'll let you see it if you take 5 UDP lines :p
 
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