Part II - UDP For Life

[JulesJam]

I'm tottenj's wife by the way

Welcome! Maybe Marky can provide advice on this b/c he has had this happen to him I am sure.

 

[tottenj]

LMAO! That's awesome. Where you unloading the UDPs that quickly?

In the beginning any UDP posted under $200 was sold in a few hours.

 

[JulesJam]

Ok fill us in. What are the details on the loyalty plan? Do you have to have had the account for x amount of years? Off contract? Any other catches?

This is a brand new UDP line I ordered from apple.com - it was a NW 450 minute, payg text, UDP individual line. I just asked for it to be changed to the 30 minute loyalty plan for $15 and to keep UDP. Voila!!!!

Waited on hold for about 25 minutes and had to hang up on the first rep. Then called back, waited on hold for a long time again and then got a rep who could do it.

 

[jdougal]

In the beginning any UDP posted under $200 was sold in a few hours.

LMAO Love that your wife is on here! That's so awesome. I thought you meant recently, yea I remember the good ole days lol (two weeks ago)

 

[Tottenmom]

LMAO! That's awesome. Where you unloading the UDPs that quickly?

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Ok fill us in. What are the details on the loyalty plan? Do you have to have had the account for x amount of years? Off contract? Any other catches?

Just Howard Forums now; things have definitely slowed down though. This is the first one this week, I did 5 last week. I've been sitting on 2 6+'s since last Thursday. The rep handling it didn't even seem to know which line she was supposed to be moving.

 

[koldlaser77]

I take back everything bad I said about the AOL night reps, lol!!!! Changing to the 30 minute loyalty plan did not change my contract end date.

Night reps are people too you know.

 

[jdougal]

Just Howard Forums now; things have definitely slowed down though. This is the first one this week, I did 5 last week. I've been sitting on 2 6+'s since last Thursday. The rep handling it didn't even seem to know which line she was supposed to be moving.

I gave away a few over on Howard but there's so much competition over there. Tried a few places I figured I would get some hits and didn't get a single one. Glad I put all these lines in Jules name, I think I'm just going to let them hang. No Nexus for her.

 

[JulesJam]

I gave away a few over on Howard but there's so much competition over there. Tried a few places I figured I would get some hits and didn't get a single one.

Convert them to $44.98/mo UDP lines. If you use the hangouts dialer and have decent 4G LTE coverage where you live, you get Unlimited talk, text and data for $45/mo on Verizon, lol!

Idk if you can go back to a NW plan if you do, but probably.

Glad I put all these lines in Jules name, I think I'm just going to let them hang. No Nexus for her.

hahahahahaha, well that's what I get for putting so many in my mom's name!

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Night reps are people too you know.

But they are soooooo bad in general. I am so nice to all the reps, but I am willing to hang up on them if I don't get the right answer. I learned my lesson that one time when I lost UDP on a line.

 

[tottenj]

I take back everything bad I said about the AOL night reps, lol!!!! Changing to the 30 minute loyalty plan did not change my contract end date.

Glad you're having better luck than we are with them! In the process of AOLing now. The rep first refused to transfer unlimited to the recipient. Then, she called my wife, said something about a fraud alert and wanted her to confirm a phone number that was AOL'd almost a month ago
Then, rather than transferring the PDI, she put the person's phone we're giving this line to on our account. Supposedly it's going to go through soon, but I thought if there was a real fraud alert AOL's are completely out of the question.

 

[JulesJam]

Convert them to $44.98/mo UDP lines. If you use the hangouts dialer and have decent 4G LTE coverage where you live, you get Unlimited talk, text and data for $45/mo on Verizon, lol!

And if you don't want to use the hangouts dialer or don't get a great 4G LTE signal everywhere you go but are willing to routinely carry both a tablet and a phone with you, then you could have your phone on the $45/mo UL T&T 250MB plan connected by WiFi to the tablet and have unlimited voice, text and data b/t the 2 devices for $90/mo.

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And if you don't want to use the hangouts dialer or don't get a great 4G LTE signal everywhere you go but are willing to routinely carry both a tablet and a phone with you, then you could have your phone on the $45/mo UL T&T 250MB plan connected by WiFi to the tablet and have unlimited voice, text and data b/t the 2 devices for $90/mo.

Actually I was just looking and page plus has an UL T&T plan + 1GB of data for $40/mo and that is a MVNO on Verizon's network so for $85/mo you could have unlimited everything on Verizon's network if you were willing to carry a tablet and a phone with you.

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Any other catches?

It extends your contract by 1 year if your contract is under 1 year and the 30 minutes are it - NO free Verizon M2M minutes, NO free N&W minutes.

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but I thought if there was a real fraud alert AOL's are completely out of the question.

Where's Marky when you need him?

 

[tottenj]

[/COLOR]Where's Marky when you need him?

This rep was a fuggin' idiot!!! She transferred the person's phone to my wifes account before transferring the line, which instantly triggered a fraud alert! Now, to clear it the fraud dept has to get involved.

 

[Delmar]

This rep was a fuggin' idiot!!! She transferred the person's phone to my wifes account before transferring the line, which instantly triggered a fraud alert! Now, to clear it the fraud dept has to get involved.

Verizon must have the same pre-hire qualification requirements as the Apple Store & McDonalds.

 

[markyr17]

This rep was a fuggin' idiot!!! She transferred the person's phone to my wifes account before transferring the line, which instantly triggered a fraud alert! Now, to clear it the fraud dept has to get involved.

Never had this happen.... Good luck with Fraud department.... They hate this sort of activity.....

 

[JulesJam]

This rep was a fuggin' idiot!!! She transferred the person's phone to my wifes account before transferring the line, which instantly triggered a fraud alert!

I don't understand - does this mean the rep put the recipient's phone on the line b/f it was transferred to the recipient? Why would that be a problem?

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Good luck with Fraud department.... They hate this sort of activity.....

Meaning what - they hate seeing lots of AOLs?

 

[topherg]

Lol, how are you even getting attention on eBay?

I don't know!! I get 1 or 2 questions every 3hrs or so. Not really selling any lines just a bunch of "will it work with my plan?" "how much is it a month?" "is this legal?" I gave a guy two lines FREE and he bailed because the rep told him I should give him the phones on the lines too! So he asked me to give him the iPhones with the lines free...

 

[AutoLode]

I don't know!! I get 1 or 2 questions every 3hrs or so. Not really selling any lines just a bunch of "will it work with my plan?" "how much is it a month?" "is this legal?" I gave a guy two lines FREE and he bailed because the rep told him I should give him the phones on the lines too! So he asked me to give him the iPhones with the lines free...

ebay is so risky I would never sell this type of stuff it risks your ebay rep which may or may not matter and a few chargebacks or fraud issues and paypal will freeze your account for as long as they want and then they may end up cancelling it after the freeze plus all the hassle to basically give away UDP's

You'll really be pissed around April when we are getting $350 for the UDP's again

If I'm gonna deal with the idiots on ebay I need to get paid big bucks to make it worth my time

 

[Henryhong]

Can I suspend my accounts online? Also I was billed for one month before AoL... Will I get credited back my one month payment?

 

[hhi97]

Yes - the TDP line now will be a single line 1400 minute NW FS plan of its own. You can have the AOL rep change it to the 450 NW individual plan with UL texting to reduce the cost to $90. But if your goal is to terminate this line and port the number to the new UDP line, I would just suspend it w/o billing while you do the port.

AFAIK, the $20 T&T data discount is not a plan feature - it is a line discount and there is no way to get it on a line now. So you could replace the TDP line with a UDP line but the UDP line would not have the $20 T&T data discount.

You could try it and see by moving the TDP line to a subaccount, suspend it w/o billing, then add a UDP line to your FS and see if it has the discount. If not, return the phone and cancel the line then merge the TDP line back into the FS plan.

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Thanks, Jules. So I should be able to add a new UDP line for $39.99/month ($9.99 add'l line charge plus $29.99 UDP). Only thing I would lose is the $20 discount. Need to see if I still have an old basic phone to lessen the ETF hit and then will try this later today. Too bad closest Apple Store is three hours away. Will have to get someone else to pick up the phone for me, assuming I can find one.

As for the legacy plan, seems like a good option for home internet.

 

[didiee]

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Thanks, Jules. So I should be able to add a new UDP line for $39.99/month ($9.99 add'l line charge plus $29.99 UDP). Only thing I would lose is the $20 discount. Need to see if I still have an old basic phone to lessen the ETF hit and then will try this later today. Too bad closest Apple Store is three hours away. Will have to get someone else to pick up the phone for me, assuming I can find one.

As for the legacy plan, seems like a good option for home internet.

Legacy plan is good if you want it on a individual line. If you can have it on your FS plan, it's still 5 bucks cheaper. It probably is a good idea to move lines out now, if you want to "rent" out mifi's. *see ebay* for rent-a-line service. Now that's what I call risky business.

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ebay is so risky I would never sell this type of stuff it risks your ebay rep which may or may not matter and a few chargebacks or fraud issues and paypal will freeze your account for as long as they want and then they may end up cancelling it after the freeze plus all the hassle to basically give away UDP's

You'll really be pissed around April when we are getting $350 for the UDP's again

If I'm gonna deal with the idiots on ebay I need to get paid big bucks to make it worth my time

Some people who never got burned just cannot understand how ebay/paypal can gang up together to really screw the sellers.
$350?! Now we'd be lucky to get $3.50

 

[JulesJam]

Thanks, Jules. So I should be able to add a new UDP line for $39.99/month ($9.99 add'l line charge plus $29.99 UDP). Only thing I would lose is the $20 discount.

Yes.

Need to see if I still have an old basic phone to lessen the ETF hit and then will try this later today.

From all I have read, the T&T data discount WILL survive an AOL so you may be able to get someone to AOL the TDP line from you. Lots of people never use more than 2GB and paying only $10 for a 2GB data plan would appeal to them if they needed to add a line or to substitute for an existing TDP line.

So you could avoid the ETF altogether if you got someone to take the TDP line with the discount.

In fact if wasn't sitting on 5 UDP lines, I should take it from you for my mother, lol! She never even uses 1GB of data per month let alone 2.

Too bad closest Apple Store is three hours away. Will have to get someone else to pick up the phone for me, assuming I can find one.

Some people have had luck with the ship to home option but it is hit or miss.

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I gave a guy two lines FREE and he bailed because the rep told him I should give him the phones on the lines too! So he asked me to give him the iPhones with the lines free...

Have the rep put a PDI on the line when you authorize the AOL.

 

[tottenj]

I don't understand - does this mean the rep put the recipient's phone on the line b/f it was transferred to the recipient? Why would that be a problem?

This rep also changed the number. From what another seemingly more knowledgeable AOL rep said; it looks like someone hacked into our account, put their phone on one of our lines and changed the phone number. Waiting for the Fraud Dept to start taking calls.

 

[JulesJam]

Legacy plan is good if you want it on a individual line. If you can have it on your FS plan, it's still 5 bucks cheaper.

True but there are people who are on other carriers that may want them for home internet.

Also as I stated before, if you can use the hangouts dialer for calls and texts, then you can get unlimited everything for $45/mo. I use the hangouts dialer for calls to landlines and it works decent but I have had callers complain about voice quality.

 

[markyr17]

I don't understand - does this mean the rep put the recipient's phone on the line b/f it was transferred to the recipient? Why would that be a problem?

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Meaning what - they hate seeing lots of AOLs?

The fraud department hates seeing over 20 lines added and transferred away. Looks suspicious, they don't understand it, and they are very likely to suspend accounts due to that if they get their eyes on them.

 

[JulesJam]

This rep also changed the number. From what another seemingly more knowledgeable AOL rep said; it looks like someone hacked into our account, put their phone on one of our lines and changed the phone number.

But did someone do that or did the AOL rep do it?

Waiting for the Fraud Dept to start taking calls.

So is the problem that the AOL rep screwed up so bad she triggered a fraud alert?

 

[didiee]

This rep also changed the number. From what another seemingly more knowledgeable AOL rep said; it looks like someone hacked into our account, put their phone on one of our lines and changed the phone number. Waiting for the Fraud Dept to start taking calls.

wow. so who took the line and ran with it?

64gb sg, philly! too far..... com'on Apple God, somewhere closer