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Part II - UDP For Life

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JulesJam said:
But did someone do that or did the AOL rep do it? :confused:

So is the problem that the AOL rep screwed up so bad she triggered a fraud alert?
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The AOL rep triggered it. After this happened, we spoke to another AOL rep who said she didn't understand why this line wasn't transferred from the beginning, everything was fine and there was no need to change the number/phone etc before transferring the line off of our account.

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markyr17 said:
The fraud department hates seeing over 20 lines added and transferred away. Looks suspicious, they don't understand it, and they are very likely to suspend accounts due to that if they get their eyes on them.
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Well, their company offers AOL's as a service that I pay for so they can bring it up internally if they don't like it. I don't pay them every month to form an opinion. :D
 
didiee said:
wow. so who took the line and ran with it?

64gb sg, philly! too far..... com'on Apple God, somewhere closer
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Ain't nuthin' nowheres near me 'cept stinkin' Sprint iPhones.

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tottenj said:
The AOL rep triggered it. After this happened, we spoke to another AOL rep who said she didn't understand why this line wasn't transferred from the beginning, everything was fine and there was no need to change the number/phone etc before transferring the line off of our account.
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That is unbelievable - well, lesson learned - AVOID THE NIGHT AOL REPS LIKE THE PLAGUE!!!!!!!

Although I did get a night AOL rep to create me a nifty little $45/mo MiFi plan, lol!

tottenj said:
Well, their company offers AOL's as a service that I pay for so they can bring it up internally if they don't like it. I don't pay them every month to form an opinion. :D
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hahahahahaha, you have huge you know whats if you complain internally b/c an AOL rep screwed up your 20th AOLed brand spankin' new UDP line, lol!
 
Part of my concern is that even though it should stay unlimited forever with no throttle.... verizon can always find some sort of loophole or just change it on a whim when we use too much data. and the udp lines will be no good....:rolleyes:
 
didiee said:
Part of my concern is that even though it should stay unlimited forever with no throttle.... verizon can always find some sort of loophole or just change it on a whim when we use too much data. and the udp lines will be no good....:rolleyes:
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First - no they can't selectively throttle UDP lines on the 4G LTE network. That issue has been decided. They tried to and the FCC smacked them down. Now ATT is being sued by the FTC for deceptive trade practices for labeling a plan a UDP and throttling it, so no, Verizon CANNOT limit our data usage and still call the plan a UDP.

Having said that, Verizon CAN eliminate UDP at any time for any reason. Period. They can and they can do it while you are under contract. BUT they will have to let you out of your contract with no ETF if you complain w/in 60 days of receiving written notice that they are eliminating your UDP. SO READ YOUR DANG BILL EVERY MONTH, LOL! Although the FTC did get on ATT about not advertising their throttling policy enough and so I believe that Verizon would need to do a lot more than just hide some fine print in the "Need to Know" section of your bill if they want to go the route of eliminating UDP.

If you want to worry about something worry about the asterisk, although I still think the arguments are strong if they have allowed you to have UDP on the line since inception.

There is nothing you can do about what Verizon will do with these UDP lines in the future. So stop worrying and enjoy it while you can. Accept that which you cannot change!
 

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KPOM said:
Do you think the distinction is that one is in contract while the other is not?
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The one I did with the BB Method is on contract and the paperwork that is in my account for that line has the asterisk terms in the CA. So even though I don't see the asterisk online, it is in the CA T&Cs.
 
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JulesJam said:
The one I did with the BB Method is on contract and the paperwork that is in my account for that line has the asterisk terms in the CA. So even though I don't see the asterisk online, it is in the CA T&Cs.
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that asterisk term showed up after August. Verizon tried to eliminate upgrade on dummy phone.
 
maestroX2 said:
that asterisk term showed up after August. Verizon tried to eliminate upgrade on dummy phone.
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what does that mean on a practical level? Data contract end date, does that mean they can hold the contract indefinitely (meaning, having a ETF) unless it has a $30/month data plan? Kind of cleaver on their part....
 
maestroX2 said:
that asterisk term showed up after August. Verizon tried to eliminate upgrade on dummy phone.
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I know but it potentially affects UDP b/c UDP is only $29.99/mo. If you ask the Verizon and BB reps they will tell you that UDP does not qualify for a minimum $30/mo plan b/c it is only $29.99/mo.

So far Verizon has not enforced the asterisk though and as I said, I think the argument is strong that by allowing you to keep UDP despite the asterisk and the term in the CA, they have consented to you keeping UDP.

Having said that, I will say again for the 1000th time - VERIZON CAN TAKE UPD AWAY FROM YOU FOR NO REASON AT ALLL AT ANY TIME EVEN IF YOU ARE ON CONTRACT. They just have to let you out of your contract w/o an etf if you complain w/in 60 days of receiving written notice of the change. If you don't complain w/in 60 days of receiving written notice of the change and want out of your contract, you will pay the etf.
 
Well Jules, you're looking at the newest owner of the Droid Turbo :eek:

Now just to wait for it to come in. :(
 
FYI - I have already AOLed my Loyalty plan line for free today and guess what? The effer turned around and listed the line on CL's for $200!!!!! LOL!!!

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jdougal said:
Well Jules, you're looking at the newest owner of the Droid Turbo :eek:

Now just to wait for it to come in. :(
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SWEET! Did you get the red one? If they can unlock the bootloader, the red one is mine.
 
JulesJam said:
I know but it potentially affects UDP b/c UDP is only $29.99/mo. If you ask the Verizon and BB reps they will tell you that UDP does not qualify for a minimum $30/mo plan b/c it is only $29.99/mo.

So far Verizon has not enforced the asterisk though and as I said, I think the argument is strong that by allowing you to keep UDP despite the asterisk and the term in the CA, they have consented to you keeping UDP.

Having said that, I will say again for the 1000th time - VERIZON CAN TAKE UPD AWAY FROM YOU FOR NO REASON AT ALLL AT ANY TIME EVEN IF YOU ARE ON CONTRACT. They just have to let you out of your contract w/o an etf if you complain w/in 60 days of receiving written notice of the change. If you don't complain w/in 60 days of receiving written notice of the change and want out of your contract, you will pay the etf.
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I know that but we will worry when that time arrived. For now, I don't even turn on my wifi option. :cool:

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JulesJam said:
FYI - I have already AOLed my Loyalty plan line for free today and guess what? The effer turned around and listed the line on CL's for $200!!!!! LOL!!!

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SWEET! Did you get the red one? If they can unlock the bootloader, the red one is mine.
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Still patiently waiting for N6. After a week with ip6, I'll be switch back to Android.
 
JulesJam said:
FYI - I have already AOLed my Loyalty plan line for free today and guess what? The effer turned around and listed the line on CL's for $200!!!!! LOL!!!

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SWEET! Did you get the red one? If they can unlock the bootloader, the red one is mine.
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No, I actually traded an iPhone 6 for a black one. All in all I'm happy, for now ;).

So what do you ask for with the Loyalty plan, just put me on that real cheap plan please?
 
jdougal said:
So what do you ask for with the Loyalty plan, just put me on that real cheap plan please?
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I asked for the $15/mo 30 minute loyalty plan and not to change the UDP on the line. The line was already a 450 min payg text UDP NW individual line.

Rep said she didn't think I could have UDP and the $15/mo 30 minute loyalty plan. I said I knew I could but if she didn't know how to do it, I would call back later to try to get someone who did. She put me on hold and then when she came back on, the line had already been changed successfully.

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BigCheapBastard said:
Where from eBay?
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Whatever happened with that person who bought your unactivated iP6 and couldn't get it to activate? Did they use an already activated SIM card to activate it?
 
quick question for someone looking to take on an AOL line. If I were to take on a line what physical hardware would I need to do it? Would I need an actual new iphone/sim not tied to any account, could I do it with just a sim or could I do it without any physical hardware?
 
tottenj said:
The AOL rep triggered it. After this happened, we spoke to another AOL rep who said she didn't understand why this line wasn't transferred from the beginning, everything was fine and there was no need to change the number/phone etc before transferring the line off of our account.

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Well, their company offers AOL's as a service that I pay for so they can bring it up internally if they don't like it. I don't pay them every month to form an opinion. :D
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It's on "an opinion". They think it's fraudulent activity.
 
makinbiscuits said:
quick question for someone looking to take on an AOL line. If I were to take on a line what physical hardware would I need to do it? Would I need an actual new iphone/sim not tied to any account, could I do it with just a sim or could I do it without any physical hardware?
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You would need a Verizon capable phone that is not activated on a Verizon account. You'd need a sim card to activate it with also. The work-around I do with buyers from time to time is ship them an active sim card for the line, this way they don't have to fool around trying to find a new phone.

this works especially well when they're looking to use it as a mifi.
 
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