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PC laptops are UGLY

Sesshi said:
Jokes aside, I think there is definitely a gap at the very top of the market, an area that Apple isn't present, for a true desktop replacement luggable which isn't designed in a way intended to appeal to a nerdy 12 year old. I mean, these are the most powerful and expensive machines out there so why the heck aim them at spotty teens out of the style loop.

There's not a single machine in that segment which doesn't cause some gagging, the Qosmio included. And the new XPS M1730 seems to take ugliness into a whole new dimension. In absolutes the Sager NP5790 is a fairly ugly machine, but it actually looks attractive compared to the rest of the monstrosities out there.

There are others which could look fairly respectable in a sober way, except the nerdy 12 year old pops up somewhere and ruins it. I wish Alienware would lose the head out of the M9750.

I use the Dell gaming laptops for work as the software I run on them works perfectly well without OpenGL support and the gaming GPU's give me desktop-grade performance. But I do dispair at how freakin' ugly these generally tend to be, when they don't have to be. I'm in the market for something with an 8700m or an 8800m and the pickings are looking pretty slim in terms of style.
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If they would make them just big, simple looking machines. Like how the PowerBook 1400 used to look. How hard can that be. They don't have to be ultra thin and stylish like the MacBook Pros, but every system in that "desktop replacement" segment is littered with crazy colored pieces and flairs and bulges and ugliness like they're all trying to appear to have come straight out of a sci-fi movie.

Look how simple this Dell looks:

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It's not beautiful, but its not ugly, it's just there.
 
Actually I used to have one of those and they're pretty unsightly in real life. A bit creaky too, although not anywhere near as bad as the same-vintage Inspiron 8000 I also had for a very short time (pausing only to say "Ugh").

A better example might be the Dell Latitude D620/630.
http://www.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/latit_d630?c=us&l=en&s=biz&cs=555

Doesn't 'say' anything at all, doesn't particularly reek of quality in any way, doesn't overtly offend the eye. It also happens to reflect the no-nonsense look in terms of build quality and features - it's solid, versatile and useful in a way that Apple laptops aren't.

But while as I said it doesn't offend the eye, it doesn't particularly inspire it either. If they could shoehorn something of this general quality and solidity in a case that looked as good as the MB/MBP's do without engineering issues coming to the fore like Apple, it would be happy smiles all round.
 
dpaanlka said:
If they would make them just big, simple looking machines. Like how the PowerBook 1400 used to look. How hard can that be. They don't have to be ultra thin and stylish like the MacBook Pros, but every system in that "desktop replacement" segment is littered with crazy colored pieces and flairs and bulges and ugliness like they're all trying to appear to have come straight out of a sci-fi movie.

Look how simple this Dell looks:

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It's not beautiful, but its not ugly, it's just there.
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Dell? not beautiful? not ugly? simple? ...i honestly cant see a match..
this looks VERY ugly!!! seriously...and how is it simple? theres million little ugly details and look at the floppy disk opening....extremely ugly..maybe you are just the guy who wants to use his computer and do his serious work without carring about the look of it...but you not any good in laptops designs lol :D
 
Darkenvamp said:
Dell? not beautiful? not ugly? simple? ...i honestly cant see a match..
this looks VERY ugly!!! seriously...and how is it simple? theres million little ugly details and look at the floppy disk opening....extremely ugly..maybe you are just the guy who wants to use his computer and do his serious work without carring about the look of it...but you not any good in laptops designs lol :D
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i totally agree. that think looks like a piece of garbage. its total crap. even has a floppy drive lol.
dell = no no for looks, ok for price.
 
Reminds me of this thing:

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It gets better... the battery sticks out the back:

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What the heck is that?!
 
nakile said:
Reminds me of this thing:

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It gets better... the battery sticks out the back:

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What the heck is that?!
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AWWWWWWWWW thats the most ugliest F@!# i have ever seen!!
look at the battery..look at the switches in the bottom..look at the camera,the keyboard everythin!! damn =\
 
Darkenvamp said:
Dell? not beautiful? not ugly? simple? ...i honestly cant see a match..
this looks VERY ugly!!! seriously...and how is it simple? theres million little ugly details and look at the floppy disk opening....extremely ugly..maybe you are just the guy who wants to use his computer and do his serious work without carring about the look of it...but you not any good in laptops designs lol :D
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You're completely missing the point. That old Dell looks clean and simple compared to this gaudy trying-too-hard nonsense:

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The older Dell knows it isn't going to win any design awards, so it isn't trying to fool itself (or it's owner) into believing otherwise.

DoFoT9 said:
even has a floppy drive lol
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What does that have to do with anything?

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Darkenvamp said:
maybe you are just the guy who wants to use his computer and do his serious work without carring about the look of it...but you not any good in laptops designs lol :D
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What does this even mean? I didn't say I wanted to buy any of these PCs. The "you not any good in laptops designs lol" really lost me.
 
dpaanlka said:
What does this even mean? I didn't say I wanted to buy any of these PCs. The "you not any good in laptops designs lol" really lost me.
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you was talking about that ugly dell as a ''normal'' looking laptop....its not even normal everyone would agree that its extermely ugly and has a complicated design not simple in anyway..
 
Dell makes cheap laptops. As long as they keep making cheap laptops they'll make money. Same goes for all other PC manufacturers.

Apple on the other hand, make products that look good and are high quality, in my opinion this works out better value.
 
They make everything from cheap to expensive. The same goes for a lot of other makers. At the top end there's plenty of notebooks out there which challenges Apple for style (although arguably it is more of a male variety of style), and certainly exceeds them in function, versatility and durability.

Apple only has two very visible models in their range. Like apparently everything else in the Apple ecosystem, the choice seems designed to make things a no-brainer in both senses of the word. The other manufacturers perhaps have too many for the attention-span-deficient among the populace.

dpaanlka said:
Yes MacBook Pros are completely useless.
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You said it, not me.
 
Sesshi said:
It also happens to reflect the no-nonsense look in terms of build quality and features - it's solid, versatile and useful in a way that Apple laptops aren't.
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Jeez, you're beginning to sound like someone else on this forum:p
 
bartelby said:
Jeez, you're beginning to sound like someone else on this forum:p
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I've always sounded like this I think, ever since I got my MBP's. The fact that I've painted myself into a corner application/OS-wise and have to buy in excess of a dozen more is not doing anything to alleviate my mood towards the 'blinged out sow's ear' MBPs*.

However I never bash anything without having had it for a while, which is possibly more than I can say for 99+% of people on forums.


*It's irrelevant whether I have a better experience with the SR MBP's - they shouldn't be as they were in the first place
 
dpaanlka said:
If they would make them just big, simple looking machines. Like how the PowerBook 1400 used to look. How hard can that be. They don't have to be ultra thin and stylish like the MacBook Pros, but every system in that "desktop replacement" segment is littered with crazy colored pieces and flairs and bulges and ugliness like they're all trying to appear to have come straight out of a sci-fi movie.

Look how simple this Dell looks:

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It's not beautiful, but its not ugly, it's just there.
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actually, I find that one kind of ugly... My current laptop is IMHO a better example of neutral aesthetics:

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it's some 2 cm bigger in each direction than the TiBook it replaced... :p
 
tomoisyourgod said:
I think this is hideous, looks proper 1970s shape, does it need to be clunky?

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I used to work at Best Buy. When it came time to take that huge clunker off of the display, we had to have one guy to pull the laptop, and the other to pull the black laptop bar holder off of it. It was THAT bad.

dpaanlka said:
If they would make them just big, simple looking machines. Like how the PowerBook 1400 used to look. How hard can that be. They don't have to be ultra thin and stylish like the MacBook Pros, but every system in that "desktop replacement" segment is littered with crazy colored pieces and flairs and bulges and ugliness like they're all trying to appear to have come straight out of a sci-fi movie.

Look how simple this Dell looks:

latitude-c600big.jpg


It's not beautiful, but its not ugly, it's just there.
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I have the Pentium 4-M version of that laptop (C640). I personally think it looks quite nice. Its nice, relatively lightweight and powerful, and has those nice dual battery bays. :D With 1.25 GB of RAM, a good tweaked install of XP Pro, it screams in speed as well as I get over 6 hours of battery life on two batteries.

Oh, and for sexy Windows laptops, Sony wins hands down. They make some nice designs.
 
DoFoT9 said:
means its old school buddy :eek:
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And that has exactly what to do with the case design? Pretend it has the CD-ROM module inserted, if that helps lift your dense fog of confusion caused by the presence of a floppy drive.

ReanimationLP said:
I have the Pentium 4-M version of that laptop (C640). I personally think it looks quite nice. Its nice, relatively lightweight and powerful, and has those nice dual battery bays. :D With 1.25 GB of RAM, a good tweaked install of XP Pro, it screams in speed as well as I get over 6 hours of battery life on two batteries.
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My mom used to have that laptop, which is why I searched for it. It looked very unobtrusive and didn't draw attention to itself. Just plain and simple. Thats how a PC should be.

Sesshi said:
I've always sounded like this I think, ever since I got my MBP's. The fact that I've painted myself into a corner application/OS-wise and have to buy in excess of a dozen more is not doing anything to alleviate my mood towards the 'blinged out sow's ear' MBPs*.
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Yes you've made it quite clear that you are not the ideal MacBook Pro customer. But the first generation MacBook Pro in this house continues to operate as good as new.
 
dpaanlka said:
1.And that has exactly what to do with the case design? Pretend it has the CD-ROM module inserted, if that helps lift your dense fog of confusion caused by the presence of a floppy drive.

2.My mom used to have that laptop, which is why I searched for it. It looked very unobtrusive and didn't draw attention to itself. Just plain and simple. Thats how a PC should be.

3.Yes you've made it quite clear that you are not the ideal MacBook Pro customer. But the first generation MacBook Pro in this house continues to operate as good as new.
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1. It has exactly nothing to do with the case design. It was simply to identify the out-datedness of the product. My dense fog of confusion is already fairly confused thank you very much, I don't need you making assumptions of my personality based on a forum page.

2. To me personally, that laptop (in this day and age) would draw attention, not divert it. It's the most ugliest thing I have ever seen.

3. If he bought a MacBook Pro, then he is the ideal customer. The saying at my workplace, "Customers are God". They bring in the money, treat everyone with respect.
 
DoFoT9 said:
It was simply to identify the out-datedness of the product.
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Well that isn't what we're talking about. It was just a friggin' example of PC laptop without blinking lights and crazy colors and horrid tacky design accents ok...

DoFoT9 said:
2. To me personally, that laptop (in this day and age) would draw attention, not divert it. It's the most ugliest thing I have ever seen.
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I was sure most XPS and Alienware systems would top that category off.

DoFoT9 said:
3. If he bought a MacBook Pro, then he is the ideal customer. The saying at my workplace, "Customers are God". They bring in the money, treat everyone with respect.
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That's the most irrelevant philosophy ever. If a person's main complaint is about being tied to an OS it's set of software, as well as the obvious performance sacrifices that need to be made to make something fit certain physical limits, then golly a MacBook Pro is not for them.
 
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