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To be honest, the inability to run PUBG is probably the biggest weakness of the Mac platform right now for me.

But with the M1 this is not really a technical limitation any more. It's just that developers aren't putting the effort into porting their titles to Metal & Apple Silicon. It's still a relatively niche platform. Hopefully this will change over time.

games are a niche market in itself. If there were hundreds of millions of users that cared about PC Gaming Apple would care. If Apple’s research determines there are enough people to move the needle in sales, they would do it. I also believe they are looking to the AR and MR they are working on to bring an industry shifting product to market. Think about using an Apple Watch with a controller in the other hand along with Apple glasses to bring titles to life without huge devices on you head.
 
The only way Mac gaming can get serious is if Apple itself creates the triple-A titles. No one else has the combination of means and incentive to do so.
Pointless; every GPU in every mac is outdated trash that cant handle a steady framerate especially now that basically every mac comes with a high resolution display. Im not going to mention the Mac Pros because they're a major rip-off.
 
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huh. People actually play games on an intel iGPU? Because as far as I know, most gamers use AMD/nVidia graphics and those don't count!
Yes. The newest Intel Iris Xe performs well. There are loads of games you can play on it. Not at the highest detail or resolutions and not the newest titles, maybe, but many games aren't that graphics intensive. This being said, anything that the Xe can run, the M1 would be able to run as well or better if the game is available for macOS and Windows.

What neither Intel's Xe nor Apple's M1 can compete with are dedicated higher-end GPUs from AMD and NVIDIA. Of course, the M1 isn't meant to compete with dedicated cards. It's meant to compete with other integrated solutions. It does that very well. We'll see if Apple ever releases a product that is meant to compete with AMD and NVIDIA from a gaming standpoint (and not just a computation standpoint).
 
PC is the only real place to play games. I don't know why anyone would buy a Mac for gaming. maybe some casual games if they get bored but you don't buy a Mac if you want to play games seriously.
Right? I love my iPhone and iPad and Mac, and I am happily in the ecosystem. But I’m also a gamer, so I have a separate PC for that.
 
Seeing how Macs, especially M1 Macs, generally don't run anything but casual games available on Apple's own Arcade, this really isn't disinformation. I love my M1 but it's disappointing that not even Steam works on this thing. It's not because it can't, rather because Valve doesn't see a big enough market to justify the work involved to make it happen.
At this point any serious gamer is going to be well aware PC is the only way to go for them, so I don't think they need the reminder here which makes the campaign itself feel weak and unnecessary.
I think the devices only being first gen and the more powerful versions with access to more memory have not even been released is the reason. Also, keep in mind these companies are terrified of what’s coming. They may know Apple is working on Gaming in a big way and they are trying to get out in front of it to control the narrative before next week.
 
Is Intel scared of the M1X?

Bet intel saw some engineering samples of the M1X and fainted and then rushed to make this ad.

Who buys a Mac for gaming? why make this ad otherwise?
Question is: Will there be a M1X version of that game. If not, then the old Intel-platform and bootcamp or a simple, cheap Intel thing will be the better solution.

I am not really into gaming and actually testing a maxed out M1 MacMini, looking at possible future opportunities I will get, using this platform - versus my "old" Trashcan.
... no I did not get the M1 for free at all.
 
I have an Xbox series X, in my lounge, hooked up to my large OLED. That offers me a better gaming experience than a PC. Oh well.
Do you mean than your current PC? Because a PC with the new 3000 series Nvidia cards look beautiful on an OLED and can offer a better experience, though at 3x the cost ;) Enjoy that series x, amazing with Game Pass!
 
I see a lot of so what. We know this. Of course you don’t buy a Mac for gaming. I’m good with Xbox or ps5.

But not much demand for apple to make it better. Where as with iPads you guys are wait til wwdc. Or if wwdc disappoints I’m returning this 2k iPad.
 
games are a niche market in itself.
LOL, wrong. The entire gaming industry (PC, mobile, console, etc) is worth about 300 billion dollars a year.

If there were hundreds of millions of users that cared about PC Gaming Apple would care.
PC industry generates about 35 billion dollars a year. That's without Apple's presence in the market.

You need to get informed.
 
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I remember when the Mac in the days of yore actually got ports of PC titles at around the same time as PC releases. Quake, UT99, Carmageddon, etc.
I'll never forget seeing Quake running on a PowerMac at Fry's (rip) and wanting it so bad but all I had was an LCII.

The Mac market is sizable but with the older depreciated OpenGL, switch to Metal, and bad hardware choices on Apple's part, I don't blame devs for not wanting to touch gaming on modern Macs.

Guess I'll stick to SimCity 2000.
 

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Gaming produces over 70% of App Store revenues. I think apple knows how profitable it is. But can they get a piece of the pie on the Mac? If they could then it’d be there.
 
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Thanks for the info Intel... Who is buying a Mac to play games anyway? Anyone who actually plays games on a computer does not use a Mac for that. That’s all I use my Winblows PC for is gaming.
 
This has been largely true ever since I can remember and will probably remain true for as long as I can imagine. Certainly for as long as PCs hold the greater market share. But it's kind of moot since a sizeable majority of Mac users buy Macs because they feel they're better at pretty much everything else besides gaming.
 
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IIRC doesn't bootcamp Windows give better performance? Sure it had Intel chips, but if a MacBook Pro running Windows gave better performance than Windows PC ... HMMMMMMMMMM
 
games are a niche market in itself. If there were hundreds of millions of users that cared about PC Gaming Apple would care. If Apple’s research determines there are enough people to move the needle in sales, they would do it. I also believe they are looking to the AR and MR they are working on to bring an industry shifting product to market. Think about using an Apple Watch with a controller in the other hand along with Apple glasses to bring titles to life without huge devices on you head.
There was a report in 2020 that 48% of PC users worldwide play games, is that really a niche marketplace? One could say the same about how many people do almost anything popular worldwide. :D
From DFC intelligence
The results, as broken down by IGN, reveal nearly 3.1 billion people around the world now play games (around 40 per cent of the total population), with 8 per cent being “dedicated” console consumers and 48 per cent identifying as PC game consumers. That’s 1.5 billion people — although the report notes this statistic does overlap with people who used PCs as well as consoles and mobile devices.
 
I only play starcraft 2. If these new M1(XXX) macs can play it at 60fps+ @ 1080p then I am ditching pc forever.
 
1440p 165hz powerful and quiet gaming laptops with excellent colors have basically made me fall out of love with the Mac. It just wasn’t like that back in 2010. Gaming laptops have came a long way. The majority of great laptops lately have been Ryzen-based though…

Windows is also much better for coding than it used to be with WSL and there’s nothing you can’t do except code for iOS
 
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Intel is scared to the bones as ARM progression is rocketed


I’m just wondering how much room for improvements there are in ARM when manufacturing size couldnt go further as now is the one key element of its success...
 
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