PCs Offer 'Better Gaming Experience Than 100% of Mac Laptops,' Intel Claims in Ongoing Anti-Apple Campaign

[cmaier]

Flawed logic - an Intel Mac would never be better than an Intel PC for gaming - only at best similar. An Apple Silicon Mac could theoretically become much faster than an Intel PC. At that point I’d suspect Windows to push Arm aggressively though.

Having owned an alienware pc, one way an intel mac would be better is it is unlikely to crash every 45 minutes, and if it does crash, and you call the manufacturer for help, they are unlikely to tell you they can’t help you because once you install any software it isn’t their problem anymore.

So I guess that’s actually two ways.

 

[1rottenapple]

Every single pic gamer knows mac ain’t anything for pc gaming. So what’s intels point?

 

[emulator]

Again, define gaming. I have no problem playing any adventure from GOG on a Mac. And for what they call 'gaming', yes, I have series x and ps4.

 

[Velli]

Having owned an alienware pc, one way an intel mac would be better is it is unlikely to crash every 45 minutes, and if it does crash, and you call the manufacturer for help, they are unlikely to tell you they can’t help you because once you install any software it isn’t their problem anymore.

So I guess that’s actually two ways.

Oh yes, there are plenty if ways a Mac is ACTUALLY better than a similarly specced windows PC… remember the reports that the most stable Windows PC was running Windows on a Mac?

I was referring solely to speed, which seems to be what matters to the gaming crowd. But price also - if the M2/M1X/whatever is much faster but also much more expensive, it won’t take over the gaming market. They could make a barebone “Mac Mini Pro” to target gamers, but that would be a killer machine for their core Pro market, so that is unlikely to happen. So, I expect what will happen is that they will make some computers that has the power to beat gaming rigs, but not the price. I suspect that the best chips will only be available bundled in hardware that makes them eye-wateringly expensive to reach. They COULD make a 16-core Mac Mini at a very reasonable price. I just don’t think they will.

 

[Whathappened]

PC is the only real place to play games. I don't know why anyone would buy a Mac for gaming. maybe some casual games if they get bored but you don't buy a Mac if you want to play games seriously.

PC is bs for gaming, get a console and stop all that cheating with hacks, bots and hardware!

 

[groovebuster]

you know you're not the market leader anymore when your marketing is about showing how competition sucks instead of showing how your stuff is awesome.

I'm a Mac... and I'm a PC...

 

[OnawaAfrica]

ahm byside some games are not ported to mac is intel not shooting them self into their own leg by comparing their new Cpu to their own older Core i9 in the macbook pro????

 

[mikethemartian]

Considering most PC's are glorified toys not surprised , want to get real work done ? Get a Mac

Surely you must be joking. HPC computing tasks are done mostly on Windows and Linux boxes.

 

[OnawaAfrica]

So basically, their only argument is games? I'm not sure who they're aiming this campaign at, because most PC gamers have already invested in one platform.

ya many gamers use AMD instead of Intel so what is intel even trying here

 

[MrGimper]

Why did you choose the X over the PS5?

Always been an Xbox dude. Only owned a PS3 as a blu-ray player. The PS5 has a few exclusives, but they didn’t interest me, and every other game is/will be better on the X. Oh, and the PS5 has a gimped HDMI port.

 

[Colpeas]

Providing an answer to a question that nobody asked…

With Apple being able to produce their own chips far more powerful and losing marketshare to AMD’s superior ryzens, Intel is really hitting their rock bottom.

 

[sartorius]

I have a PC for gaming. A Ryzen 3950X with an RTX 2080 Super. It’s awesome.

I also have an M1 MacBook Pro which is the best laptop I have ever owned.

Threw my Intel i9 MBP16 in the trash, it was the worst laptop I ever owned.

Throttling, overheating PoS with a 3 hour battery life as soon as you want to do anything pro on it.

You’ll have to pay me to use Intel again.

Somebody needs to let them know it’s not the 2000s any more 🤣

 

[Velli]

I'm a Mac... and I'm a PC...

Was that campaign created by the market leader?

 

[chucker23n1]

I'm a Mac... and I'm a PC...

See, but that was punching up, not punching down.

 

[Radeon85]

PC is bs for gaming, get a console and stop all that cheating with hacks, bots and hardware!

I'll take PC gaming any day, consoles even the new current gen don't even come close to reaching the performance of my 3090 for 4k gaming especially when you run ray tracing on top and all the visuals set much higher then what consoles can do.

Plus PCs usually have much cheaper game prices and then theres the insane ammount of games that you can play that are decades old if you feel like it, can't see a modern console running 20yr+ old games unless the games get ported or the console hacked to run them.

PC gaming especially at the moment is really expensive with the GPU shortages but worth it, for me the biggest advantage is the massive game library that consoles will never match.

 

[Steve121178]

I remember this being said when Apple changed to Intel... and nothing changed.

It's not going to change with Apple Silicon either.

There's literally nothing stopping millions of iOS games from running on Apple Silicon. To say it's not going to change is just wrong.

Just needs the developers to have an interest in allowing their games to be played on the Mac...

 

[nikaru]

You talk about limited budgets, go into specifics about raw performance as if games aren't optimized for Nvidia or AMD and then throw iGPUs under the bus when they are adequate for most budget gamers which is the general population.

Are you also saying that you need a RTX 3060 to have a good gaming experience? If so we can end the conversation right there because you are out of touch.

Of course Im talking about limited budgets! Except for very few people, we all have budgets! The average spending on new laptop in the US market was around 750$ some two years ago. Dont know the updated figure for 2021, but shouldn't be far from this price tag. Some people are making a special effort spending more than double that price to get a premium product as the Mac, and they find an important limitation for widely popular use case, such as casual or not that casual gaming. No, iGPUs are not adequate for gaming. Yes, you can run many new games, at low resolution (max 1080p), low-to-medium settings and get 30-60fps but not all games. I have been low-spec casual gamer with Intel iGPUs for years and the experience is average at most. A good/ideal gaming experience is when you can run all games at the native resolution of your laptop, high settings and obtain FPS at the max refresh rate of the display. The best gaming experience is when you can plug an external 4k monitor with 120Hz refresh rate, play all on ultra and dont need to update your setup in the next 24 months to play the next-gen games. Thats not what Im asking for.

 

[nihil0]

I don't think anyone is buying a Mac for the purposes of gaming. Valid point, Intel, but irrelevant.

Exactly. It's like if CAT would make a chart where they have better equipment for digging than Ferrari. Totaly irrelevant comparison.

 

[Gatto37]

Subscriptions like Xbox Ultimate, Geforce Now provides a pretty descent way to play games with older, or not as powerful computers, or different platforms for the average user. So what's the fuss Intel? Professional gamers would never use a Mac to play anyway...

 

[iConcept]

I don't know what they're talking about, Chess runs fine on my Mac

 

[09872738]

If by grow, you mean allowing developers to bring iOS games to the Mac by virtue of catalyst, I agree.

Maybe. Or maybe we have reached a watershed moment.

Skate to where the puck is going to be….

For now we only have seen what M1 can do. And this is more than remarkable. Nown extrapolate 2, 3 years into the future, imagine what an M2, M3 or Mx can do…

Notebooks with 15 hrs battery life while actually being used, iMacs and Mac Mini performance on par with the faster cohort of PCs - while being dead silent… its not only a possibility, it is actually pretty likely we‘ll see all this in the not too distant future.

If Apple decides to play it right, market share in Laptops and Computers could soon see unprecedented levels. Apple Silicon is good enough to really make a difference.

 

[diamond.g]

Always been an Xbox dude. Only owned a PS3 as a blu-ray player. The PS5 has a few exclusives, but they didn’t interest me, and every other game is/will be better on the X. Oh, and the PS5 has a gimped HDMI port.

Cool. I always wondered why folks pick a side when the most prudent thing is to buy both to enjoy all the exclusives each platform offers.

 

[BeefCake 15]

I mean it's not looking good anyway...

 

[Dremmel]

While this may be true (for now), PCs run Windows 10 wich is an absolute basketcase hence why they disabled Windows 7 on new hardware.

 

[diamond.g]

I mean it's not looking good anyway...

Console revenue grew slower than PC game revenue. But nobody is saying console are going away, like they do the PC game market (for like the past 20 years).