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People are too picky with apple products

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Trip.Tucker said:
If you have lower standards than most, don't expect others to have to lower theirs to your level. If you've been sucker-sold a defective unit and accepted it, that's your choice. Don't turn it into your soapbox justification to berate others.
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That's where the problem is. It's not about whether you or he has lower standards – you have nothing whatsoever to do with the standards of the machine or its manufacture. The standards you should concern yourself with are the standards of the output you produce with your Mac.
If your work and concentration can be disrupted or hijacked by miniscule cosmetic "problems" like a slightly slanting key that has absolutely no ill-effect on your projects or personal performance, then you in fact display LOW STANDARDS of both tolerance and focus, allied to an inability to discern what is important in your pursuit of results.
 
I would have to agree, a lot of you are far too picky. My MacBook has a scratch on the screen. It's been there since I took it out of the box (I wasn't trying to find it, but considering that I was fascinated with the glossy-ness of the screen since I had never had a glossy screen before, of course I'd notice it then). Guess what, I can't see it when I'm actually using the computer, so it doesn't actually affect me.

A lot of the complaints you people have (misaligned speaker holes, uneven keyboards) don't impact the functionality of the computer. I doubt you'll even NOTICE the "defects" while you're using the computer. Just considering the fact that many of you actually inspect your computer for these kinds of cosmetic issues that have no impact on functionality just goes to show how sad you (luckily, the minority are). While people are having problems with graphic card meltdowns, you're complaining about speaker holes? Are you seriously?

I'm so happy that the typical college student and faculty has more pressing concerns than the alignment of the top lid to the lower lid. I'd probably direct them to the nearest Apple store anyway.
 
I am thinking of starting a new thread titled "You people are too picky about what other people think". If you don't like how "picky" people are about the problems they have seem with their computers then DON'T READ THE THREADS. It is really that simple. You are the same people who want to get shows taken off TV because they upset you. Just change the damn channel.

Not everyones standards are going to be the same. What one person finds acceptable someone else will not. Get over it. No one person owns the gold standard of what is and is not acceptable. If you have to scrimp and save for 2 years to save up enough to by this expensive computer and you see an imperfection on it and you live 10 minutes from an Apple store then chances are you are going to see a scratch on the screen differently then someone would could drop $2500 without batting and eye and would have to drive 2 hours to get to an Apple store.

This thread has taken complaining to a new level. You people complaining about the complainers are just as bad as the people taking out their magnifiers. Get a life already.
 
Okay, ENOUGH already!

Some people are overly picky (OMG! There's a .5 mm scratch on the bottom of my case!), and others are outright apple apologists (Okay, my pro overheats to the point of causing testicular damage if I put it on my lap, but other than that, I love it!).

Posting caustic, biting comments on a thread will do nothing to convert someone in the other camp.

IMO, this thread is little more than troll fodder and flame bait.
 
Tallest Skil said:
Right...

But all these people using car, clothing, and food analogies are talking about the same thing.
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Yes, you do have a point there.

You really can not compare problems with buying a computer to problems buying other things.

To those who keep mentioning OCD, you might want to look up what OCD really is. Checking your system to make sure it is in good order, not matter how close you look, does not have anything at all even remotely to do with OCD. I know you people are not really being serious about it, but it is quite a ridiculous comparison.
 
Tallest Skil said:
Do you demand the person from whom you buy your house change a burnt-out lightbulb?
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I believe lightbulbs fall under the "consumables" category, which Apple doesn't cover unless your "lightbulb" (battery) is obviously defective.

just playing devil's advocate here ;)
 
MrMinor said:
Yes, you do have a point there.

You really can not compare problems with buying a computer to problems buying other things.

To those who keep mentioning OCD, you might want to look up what OCD really is. Checking your system to make sure it is in good order, not matter how close you look, does not have anything at all even remotely to do with OCD. I know you people are not really being serious about it, but it is quite a ridiculous comparison.
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I know what OCD is, some of my friends have it, and I think the people who complain about tiny cracks or light leaks on their iPhones and people who go mad about the smallest thing in their Macs being wrong are leaning to the OCD side... "OMG must like up my perfect Macs everyday!!!"
 
PowerFullMac said:
I know what OCD is, some of my friends have it, and I think the people who complain about tiny cracks or light leaks on their iPhones and people who go mad about the smallest thing in their Macs being wrong are leaning to the OCD side... "OMG must like up my perfect Macs everyday!!!"
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Sorry, but coming from someone who has OCD, I can tell you that you have a very misguided view of what it is.
 
MrMinor said:
Sorry, but coming from someone who has OCD, I can tell you that you have a very misguided view of what it is.
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Exactly what I was thinking :rolleyes:
I work with patients who are chronically OCD and they can go into panic attacks if their compulsions are not performed.
 
i think everyone has every right to judge a product that they purchase to their personal standards.

if people think their real picky and their post is stupid... don't reply to the post and let it be... people who respond to threads occasionally take it way to far and bash the crap out of a OP's post... so what does that say about responders character?

what happened to the old saying... "if you dont have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all"
 
drewsof07 said:
Exactly what I was thinking :rolleyes:
I work with patients who are chronically OCD and they can go into panic attacks if their compulsions are not performed.
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Like the people who have panic attacks on here about how there iPhones have 0.1mm cracks on the back!

Anyway, I'm not gonna get into a big argument about what OCD is, I got better things to do.
 
This thread seems to have focused on small cracks and slanted keys. There have been far worse problems than those, forgotten already have we?
 
morrisman1 said:
you hear all the complaints:

my pixel is dead, my f6 key looks on a lean, my battery cover isnt perfect.

if it was a dell or something like that these issues are tolerated, and possibly not noticed because people dont go looking for them to the same extent.

the f6 key on my new macbook isnt completely flat, i dont care - it still works and i actually had to put my eyes down to the level of the computer to notice it at all. other than that, my ones perfect but the amount of people claiming that theirs isnt are either ****-stirring or just being overly picky

i know apple is a premium brand and we pay more for the quality and design of the computers but they are making thousands of these, a slanted f6 key can easily go a miss and woudlnt be economical to repair anyway. to get an absolutely perfect computer every time, we could expect to pay 30% more due to the higher overall costs of production.

the **** stirrers are the ones that say that their screen was 1cm out of alignment with the bottom case. i read that on appledefects some time. i though what a crock of ****, apple wouldnt every miss that and the manufacturing process wouldnt allow for a stuffup that big anyway.

anyway, we all have great computers and most wont be absolutely perfect but thats just a matter of perception. they are streaks ahead of dell and hp so just be happy with that.
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Seems the ONLY person actively complain here is you and your uneven f6. If it bugs you that much, bleedin return it or quit moaning about it. I'm reading this thread and I've come across your moans in a few entries. If that's not a complain, then I don't know what is....

:rolleyes:
 
drewsof07 said:
I believe lightbulbs fall under the "consumables" category, which Apple doesn't cover unless your "lightbulb" (battery) is obviously defective.

just playing devil's advocate here ;)
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That sound whizzing over your head was his point.

MrMinor said:
I am thinking of starting a new thread titled "You people are too picky about what other people think". If you don't like how "picky" people are about the problems they have seem with their computers then DON'T READ THE THREADS. It is really that simple. You are the same people who want to get shows taken off TV because they upset you. Just change the damn channel.

Not everyones standards are going to be the same. What one person finds acceptable someone else will not. Get over it. No one person owns the gold standard of what is and is not acceptable. If you have to scrimp and save for 2 years to save up enough to by this expensive computer and you see an imperfection on it and you live 10 minutes from an Apple store then chances are you are going to see a scratch on the screen differently then someone would could drop $2500 without batting and eye and would have to drive 2 hours to get to an Apple store.

This thread has taken complaining to a new level. You people complaining about the complainers are just as bad as the people taking out their magnifiers. Get a life already.
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True but then by your logic one could say you're complaining about the complainers complaining about the complainers and you shouldn't read *these* posts. Where does the cycle end? This is a discussion forum so if people feel others are too picky they're entitled to voice that opinion.

grahamnp said:
This thread seems to have focused on small cracks and slanted keys. There have been far worse problems than those, forgotten already have we?
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Those people are just picky, this thread is about people who are *too* picky. ;)
 
duklaprague said:
I actually know someone who did that! :D

Well, not quite - I think they actually took some lightbulbs, and the guy made a point about them being replaced.
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Now THAT'S cheap! wow

You know thats actually legal ground to nullify the sale of the house? Once the deal is done nothing attached to the home can be removed like cabinets, fixtures etc. It has to be in the condition they witnessed it minus furniture & belongings.
 
MowingDevil said:
Now THAT'S cheap! wow

You know thats actually legal ground to nullify the sale of the house? Once the deal is done nothing attached to the home can be removed like cabinets, fixtures etc. It has to be in the condition they witnessed it minus furniture & belongings.
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Yup - that's why he wanted them back before he moved in.

He's a man of principle! :D
 
If you spend $2600 on a laptop - for which a comparable equivalent would cost $1000 less - and you accept defects - escpecailly dead pixels - then you're an idiot, plain and simple. If you can't understand why a person would return a laptop because of a problem like severe backlight bleed then you probably have really low standards.

Also, about the Toyota analogy. Toyota isn't a "premium car" it's a mid-grade car; Toyota's premium grade models are called Lexus. If I bought a toyota with some small defects I wouldn't go ape ****, but if I bought a brand new mercedes I wouldn't accept ANY defects.

I think most of the "please stop complaining about defects" people are either blind fanboys or mac noobs. Apple didn't used to have so many quality control issues and people that were around and using apple computers 15 or more years ago have a difficult time accepting apple's lowered standard of quality.

I have some slanted keys and a less than good monitor (my girlfriend's POS dell has way less backlight bleed than any unibody MBP I've seen) and I returned the first 4 MBPs that I got because they had even more serious defects than the one I settled with.

Basically, if apple computers have more defects and less quality than comparable PC's then why should people buy MACs? Maybe some people out there buy macs because of their trendy image, but Mac's quality is what has kept them in business. If Apple thinks that their smug advertisements and iPod sales can keep them in business than they might scrap their quality (which seems to me to be what they're doing). Apple's user base has grown immensely in the last few years and many of the new-to-apple folks don't know that they should expect a top-quality computer. People that whine and beg other people to stop complaining, like the OP, only encourage apple's decline of quality control. If you buy an apple computer you should expect that it will be a higher quality product than a PC, if it isn't then it should be returned.
 
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