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Petition to remove iOS 7 install on iOS 6?
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I guess you don't recognize trash threads when you see them. Like another user stated if he REALLY wanted to start a petition he could have Googled it.
What the OP did instead was bitch and moan about a specific Apple practice which he AGREED to in a license agreement.
It's like agreeing not to pee in a pool and then complaining why you can't pee in the pool but to the parking attendant instead of the pool manager.
But not everything in license agreements is necessarily right or even legal sometimes or at least couldn't be challenged. Just because it's there doesn't mean it can't or shouldn't be contested.
Just bite the bullet and install iOS 7 already. I'll never understand why so many of you torture yourselves to keep running an old version of the operating system.
Let me give you some examples of when a consumer's voice had made a difference:
Netflix: Netflix decided to change the price on their service and thought it was justified. Customers thought otherwise and started cancelling their accounts. The threat of revenue loss made Netflix set the price back.
Bank of America proposed an additional ATM fee for its customers. Customers threatened to take their banking elsewhere. The threat of losing accounts made Bank of America withdraw their proposal
Microsoft was going to release the Xbox one that would always be connected to the Internet. There was a lot of consumer pushback against this so Microsoft changed its mind. why? Customers could potentially buy the PS4 instead.
How is Apple threatened by a consumer group that is using 3 year old hardware that revenue has already been collected for?
sue Apple? Ok, EULA wins the case.
Don't buy anymore Apple products? Who suffers here? the consumer or Apple?
One could say "Hey, you never know!...Apple could change its mind after seeing 100,000 signatures". Sure it's possible, probable? not likely.
I don't know about suing Apple or anything, but in that kind of respect EULA doesn't automatically win the case if there are things in it that don't hold up upon closer (legal) examination.
And, as you pointed out, change has happened one way or another with other companies and things they've done and ended up reversing or things they didn't do and ended up needing/having to do. So, that only means it can happen in some fashion--certainly that only supports the idea that it's possible, rather than the idea that it's completely pointless to at least even bring it up or just discuss it.
Because an app I use does not work right on iOS 7 (checked on another running iOS 7)
Once the app runs fine, I probably will upgrade.
If the EULA says you MUST upgrade, why even make it so you have to start it?
Might as well give one a 1 week count down, and it will be upgrade if you want to or not.
The EULA says Apple decides when the software is updated and what devices get updated.
You are saying "I want a choice". By you agreeing to the EULA you are acknowledging you understand you don't have a choice. This is why I don't understand the point of this thread.
That part of the EULA might not quite mean that and/or should not quite mean that and/or might not apply if perhaps actually challenged in some way.
This is true. There are provisions for exactly this... If Apple decided to turn everyone's iOS devices into just a calculator, you can rest assured it wouldn't hold up in court.
I thought the wording was something like: Apple may make available future updates...
They decide when the update is available, but they don't control if and when it has to be installed. It also requires accepting a new EULA from 6 to 7, if I'm not mistaken, which you would have the right to reject, if so.
OP, just look at it like the built-in apps that you never use & can't get rid of.
It's BS but you have to live with it. Unless there's a jailbreak or something to delete it?
It's BS but you have to live with it. Unless there's a jailbreak or something to delete it?
When and What is not a big issue, as long as I have option to agree to doing the upgrade.
So far I have not seen forced upgrade by Apple, although taking up to 3GB of space on device is almost that point.
Microsoft DOES force updates.
This morning I found my office Windows computer had restarted due to an update.
Happens every 2~5 times a month.
Apple is getting very close to be like M$.
Would you like to have your phone spontaneously upgrade to iOS 8 the moment it comes out?
Hate to say it, but a petition to remove the download from you're device wouldn't get anywhere.
When you signed the terms and condition, by saying "I agree", you allowed Apple to do this to your device.
Apple isn't going to change that.
When you signed the terms and condition, by saying "I agree", you allowed Apple to do this to your device.
Apple isn't going to change that.
Actually, Apple DID change that. At least in the latest 7.1 beta. It has been reported that there is now an option to remove the downloaded upgrade installer image. Doesn't help those who are still on 6.x, but Apple DID change how it handles updates.
Sorry but MS does not FORCE updates. If you have updates set to automatic then yes it will download updates automatically and will reboot the computer when it's idle.
Change your update perference to 'check for updates and let me choose' and you'll never have that problem again.
just give this stuff up, iOS6 is outdated and should be gone for good. If you are complaining that your phone is too slow, get a new one and move on. Stop clinging to the dated, ugly past.
Hardly a solution for something that I never plan on using.
Give me the money to upgrade at full price?
iOS 6 WORKS on the 4 & 4S, and is still being signed on older devices that cannot upgrade to 7. It makes zero sense for them to FORCE a download on you when you have no intention of ever using it.
Computing 101:
If an important software does not work on a new system, don't upgrade.
There is a number of software that is not yet upgraded for iOS 7 (fewer now), so very good reasons for some companies not to upgrade, nor get new hardware becuase of it (I am sure all will be updated in due course).
When the software runs on iOS 7, will probably upgrade.
Till then I want my space back!!!
If you think the iPhone comes with software you don't use or need? Try going down to your local wireless carrier store and take a look at any Android phone.
They not only come with bloatware from the carrier but also demos from 3rd party companies who paid the carrier/manufacturer to include that CAN NOT be uninstalled.
But because Android is bad in that respect doesn't mean we should be content about Apple being slightly less bad, right? If anything that only means that this kind of thing is that much worse in a general sense, and the fact that Apple plays into it to some degree isn't any better.
Well here's the thing. Apple can't really give you the option to uninstall included apps because they are integrated into the system.
People are under the impression that a Mobile operating system is like a desktop counterpart. It's not. You can't just install a native iOS app because you dont use it. It's referenced in other apps as well.
For example, if you deleted the weather app it would most likely cause havoc on the Today screen in notification center which relies on it.
delete messages and you just blew up the "share" button on every app that references "by message".
Removing the Sprint Nascar app does not blow up Android OS. I know this because that is the first thing I did with my HTC Evo 4G. Rooted the phone and got rid of the bloatware (which isnt tied into the core OS)
I somewhat agree about certain built-in apps, as you describe it, but as far as that kind of idea extending to or implying that automatically downloading an update to begin with and not even being able to remove it if you wish furthermore, that's certainly pushing it (despite it perhaps being within the EULA, although I would say that can and perhaps should still be questioned).