That's the point, Apple seems quite happy to have it exclusive to the iOS / Mac environment, it adds value to their ecosystem.
iMessage already took off, there are million users on it daily!
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iMessage already took off, there are million users on it daily!
So much hatred and negativity here. What did you all expect from WWDC? An Apple Flying Saucer that syncs with a 5D iPhone that can read your mind?
iOS 10 is by far the biggest update in years. Apple is in a difficult situation here: all information and functionality in iOS is locked up in apps. In essence, iOS is still nothing more than row after row of icons. So they have to open it up or they fall even more behind. And that's what they did. Opening up Siri, Maps and Messages for developers is a huge deal. It will hopefully change the way we use our iDevices. But now we have to wait to see what the developers come up with.
And yes, I'm very happy the butt ugly notification and control centers are getting a new look. They are appalling right now.
It's more obvious that they are struggling with macOS and tvOS. macOS is mature and they have no clue on improving it anymore and that's a shame. And tvOS keeps on being an uninspiring little box you only buy if you're a huge Apple fan only to realise it's virtually useless.
But by far the biggest issue I have with Apple is that they seem to lack the resources or drive to make their services and features available outside the US. Over here (Belgium, Europe) we still don't have any use for Passbook or Wallet, Apple Pay will never ever arrive, Siri on tvOS is non functional, Nearby in Maps or Predictive Typing don't exist, and so on... At least with Google, I don't feel like a second grade customer.
iOS 10 is by far the biggest update in years. Apple is in a difficult situation here: all information and functionality in iOS is locked up in apps. In essence, iOS is still nothing more than row after row of icons. So they have to open it up or they fall even more behind. And that's what they did. Opening up Siri, Maps and Messages for developers is a huge deal. It will hopefully change the way we use our iDevices. But now we have to wait to see what the developers come up with.
And yes, I'm very happy the butt ugly notification and control centers are getting a new look. They are appalling right now.
It's more obvious that they are struggling with macOS and tvOS. macOS is mature and they have no clue on improving it anymore and that's a shame. And tvOS keeps on being an uninspiring little box you only buy if you're a huge Apple fan only to realise it's virtually useless.
But by far the biggest issue I have with Apple is that they seem to lack the resources or drive to make their services and features available outside the US. Over here (Belgium, Europe) we still don't have any use for Passbook or Wallet, Apple Pay will never ever arrive, Siri on tvOS is non functional, Nearby in Maps or Predictive Typing don't exist, and so on... At least with Google, I don't feel like a second grade customer.
You're being generous. The keynote was aimed at children. At this point, I don't even see why Apple is bothering with a new file system. Children don't know or care what file systems are. They care about emojis.
You take Apple way too seriously. It's a messaging app, not a way of life.
I'd just like to see it go cross platform so that I can use iMessage with all of my friends and family.
Is that like a bowel movement?
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We expected the World Wide Developer's Conference to be aimed at developers rather than children who like emojis, fireworks, and invisible ink.
the way i see it: they're paying the price for not wanting to merge the laptop and tablet lines.
W10 invested everything into creating a hybrid platform which can be used both like a traditional computer and a touch input device (like a tablet to be clear).
Being apple mainly a hardware and service company (the OSes being all for free, and thus only a means to channel those HW/service sales) they push customers into buying as many products as possible, also by creating a pleasing ecosystem in which devices cooperate and work seamlessly with each other (unlock the pc with the watch is just the latest addition).
but let's be honest, what's the sense in having for example, both an ipad pro and a macbook? hardware wise they're so close (ok, different architecture, i know) that one single device would be much more convenient!
it sounds cool that i can copy/paste between pc and tablet, but isn't it honestly easier to just have one device to rule them all?
obviously apple doesn't want that because it would hurt sales, the approach is rather to make the tables more productive with each iteration, but lacking that pc feeling so that one will most likely still need/want both.
All this to say that macOS is not going to change dramatically over the coming years. it's a mature platform, tied to the traditional ways of interaction with a computer.
This makes me sad, because after decades with using computers i NEED to have folders, desktop, multiple windows, that's how i mentally organise files and workflow (space, patterns, hierarchy), it would take so few to add that to a tablet...
Then go back to Windows already! To listen to you developers talk out here on these forums, it's seems that's all you developers care about, is what Apple is doing for you, or that's all Apple should be focused on, is what's in it for you as a developer. Features that may matter to an end user don't matter, right?
Everyone complaining about emojis and other new features that debuted in the keynote. I got news for you, Apples sales numbers and stock price are more important than your developer priorities and consumers buying Apple products that have the features that have become main stream in today's social world take priority.
If Apple does a study and discovers thousands of people are choosing to buy Samsung phones over iPhones because their phones have features the iPhone doesn't, guess what...here comes iOS 10 with quirky emojis and other gimmicks. I could live without all that crap myself, but it is what it is and Apple has to stay relevant.
If Apple doesn't stay relevant, then you can be a developer for a product people no longer care about and don't buy. You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Does Apple need to show you developers some live? Maybe so, just don't act like you always deserve priority.
Depend of what you mean by "file system".
In the classic desktop sense it means having access to anything on the hard drive, from your word documents, music files, to your OS system files, app settings files, etc.
Obviously no app can give access to all that on the iPad.
However total access to the complete file system is really not what the iPad need to be a better work computer for the vast majority of users. What it really need is a offline file manager that could be shared accross different apps. Having some kind of app where you could manage offline all your relevant personal files. A bit like a user home folder in macOS.
Such apps does exist already on iOS, like Readdle's Documents app. It could clearly get better, but it's there.
However I just don't see the need for having access to all of the iPad filesystem for it to be a serious pro machine. A bit like there is no real point for a user to go somewhere else than is home folder in macOS to do some work.
Are you, with a straight face, saying that Jobs era Apple was all about listening to what users want, not pushing what apple thought was best, and coming out admitting when they got it wrong; and Cook era Apple is about ignoring users and not admitting when they did something wrong? Seriously?
Okay , I see what you mean. I think a lot of us grumpy old man refer to the first example on the Device itself.
Why does it have to be on the Mac App store? Here's a golf game on Steam that would work on that "tricked out" iMac: http://www.nicklaus.com/news/jack-nicklaus-perfect-golf-computer-game/
Might be time to stop calling it a "tech" world.
I'm actually finding it kinda fun that Apple backed themselves into this corner and are having to play catch-up.
Who know's, by the time iOS 10 rolls out emojis and stickers might be like totally un-cool!
It was focused on developers, just to your disliking that they focused on features that Apple developers created rather than yours. How many features and apps did they open up for developer use again? Siri, messages just to name a couple. That still still wasn't good enough huh?
I really hate the emoji art style. I also hate Blackberry but their smilies were the best. Maybe it time to update the emoji designs.
Also, people spend most of their time in messages ONLY in the US since SMS is unlimited and free. The rest of the world has to use a 3rd party app for messaging like Whatsapp or Telegram.
Also, people spend most of their time in messages ONLY in the US since SMS is unlimited and free. The rest of the world has to use a 3rd party app for messaging like Whatsapp or Telegram.
That's what I told. Confusing and dumb "feature". Would be way better to have a toggle in iOS Settings to hide/show a stock app while keeping user data.
Apple creates potential Mac security issues by not getting Mac apps that are also offered in the iOS App Store.
Any app in the iOS App Store should be removed or blocked from working if it's companion Mac app is not offered in the Mac App Store.
Any app in the iOS App Store should be removed or blocked from working if it's companion Mac app is not offered in the Mac App Store.
Exactly - and even worse is that China is the model for the kind of communism / socialism they're trying to impose on the rest of the world. I love Chinese art and high culture, but I NEVER want to be a drone like 99.9% percent of their people are.
That IS a SHAME! I use that a lot with my dad when I need to solve an issue for him. Is that lost in the developer preview of Sierra? Or has it disappeared from El Cap as well?
Sorry but you need to watch the conference again, Tim points out the young developers ages 10 to 18 that were in the front rows. That is Apples developers future, do you get it now? They love emojis, fireworks, and ink. They are not looking for people who want to do work with there products, oh no it's all about the fun app of the month.
I'd like them talk about if they remember what a "prosumer" is and how to make hardware and features for them.
Did not say that, but talking 1 hour about iMessages... semed like opening up the sdk was the little extra bonus..while it should have been the center of it ..as you suggest as well..
Should have made bigger deal on the tools they give you and how you can make a difference with them rather than show stuff that would be important to a consumer...
Talking about the new file system, the new swift 3 the new api and sdk...that would have been more appropriate about a Developer Conference.... no need to get defensive just because I have a different opinion from you
There will always be those people who no matter what Apple does will be considered the best thing ever.
they don't, because they don't really know what "file system" actually is, and that its not "file icons and folder icons"
I did say that the day when apple decides to close access to file system on OS X (now macOS) is the day I quit mac.
But since they're opening other things up and they introduced the APFS, i doubt they'll close mac down. Some form of "expert functions" that you have to manually enable... to get iPad Pro file system access.
The issues there is that right now to get file system access you have to jailbreak it, meaning piracy and everything on iOS is practically nonexistent for common users, the moment you have official "file system access" granted, piracy will bloom.
On the other hand, they are able to handle this on OS X quite nicely, slowly implementing sandboxing as in iOS while still keeping file system and tinkering access available.