Phil Schiller and Craig Federighi's Interview on 'The Talk Show' Now Available

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Earlier this week, Apple executives Phil Schiller and Craig Federighi appeared on a live episode of John Gruber's podcast, The Talk Show, touching on a number of topics and expanding on some of the announcements made the previous day at the Worldwide Developers Conference keynote.


The full video and audio of the interview are now available from Daring Fireball for those interested in seeing exactly what Schiller and Federighi had to say. The executives discussed such topics as the ability to remove stock apps in iOS 10, the opening of several parts of Apple's platforms to third-party developers to allow integration into apps such as Messages and Maps, and more.


The discussion also covered Apple's expanded subscription options for app developers, including some clarification on which types of apps may not be appropriate for such a model, details on the new Photos features and how Apple is approaching privacy with them, and some thoughts on how Apple was able to make such significant improvements in the watchOS user experience.

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kwikdeth

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Was this the one where Schiller mentioned the bit about they spend a year working on a new file system and no one cares, and they do two new emoji and everyone flips out?

That was really a sweet moment for me. The one when I stopped feeling guilty about my next computer purchase being a Windows machine.
 

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Federighi really embodies the spirit of Apple in my opinion. Federighi's presentation on OS X/macOS and iOS at WWDC was great, polished and intelligent and the demos smart, witty and slick.
 
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Remember: year after year, everything Apple does is awful, big new stuff doesn't matter just because, small new stuff is bad because it's small, everything every other company does is flawless so you'd better switch, AND this perpetually became true only recently. In 10 years, it will still have just recently become true.

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Was this the one where Schiller mentioned the bit about they spend a year working on a new file system and no one cares, and they do two new emoji and everyone flips out?
Good news: You entirely misunderstood the quote.
 

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Remember: year after year, everything Apple does is awful, big new stuff doesn't matter just because, small new stuff is bad because it's small, everything every other company does is flawless, AND this perpetually became true only recently. In 10 years, it will still have just recently become true.

Apple: Just Recently Terrible Since 1976.
You forgot "Steve Jobs would never have allowed this".
 

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Was this the one where Schiller mentioned the bit about they spend a year working on a new file system and no one cares, and they do two new emoji and everyone flips out?

That was really a sweet moment for me. The one when I stopped feeling guilty about my next computer purchase being a Windows machine.
Right on. Right on. My girlfriend saw the keynote and some WWDC sessions with me and I was interested mostly in the upcoming APFS. Really great stuff. Built for SSD, cloning. Too bad it won't be released until 2017, but it shows Apple still has an interest in REAL technology and not gimmicks like sending your heartbeat, Siri, 3D Touch, Touch ID, Apple Pay, Handoff.

But, alas, the girlfriend was most impressed by...you guessed it, the new iMessage app. No, seriously. She was actually impressed by the overall increased interactivity of a communication app that allows tone-deaf text messages to express more dynamic personalities and playful subtext. Unbelievable. I recognized in that moment that one of us was a sad, pathetic case.
 

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Right on. Right on. My girlfriend saw the keynote and some WWDC sessions with me and I was interested mostly in the upcoming APFS. Really great stuff. Built for SSD, cloning. Too bad it won't be released until 2017, but it shows Apple still has an interest in REAL technology and not gimmicks like sending your heartbeat, Siri, 3D Touch, Touch ID, Apple Pay, Handoff.

But, alas, the girlfriend was most impressed by...you guessed it, the new iMessage app. No, seriously. She was actually impressed by the overall increased interactivity of a communication app that allows tone-deaf text messages to express more dynamic personalities and playful subtext. Unbelievable. I recognized in that moment that one of us was a sad, pathetic case.
which one?
 

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Now, this is a good interview.

Everyone else tries to extract what would be Apple's next gizmo, or what would the next iPhone will have, and we all know they aren't giving that.

More substance than everything everyone else has put together.
 

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Remember: year after year, everything Apple does is awful, big new stuff doesn't matter just because, small new stuff is bad because it's small, everything every other company does is flawless so you'd better switch, AND this perpetually became true only recently. In 10 years, it will still have just recently become true.

Apple: Just Recently Terrible Since 1976.

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APPLE DOESN'T CARE FOR THE
PROFESSIONAL THAT NEEDS SWITCHES
AND BLINKING LIGHTS TO SEE WHAT'S
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I DON'T SEE THE POINT OF AN
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THIS TIM COOK WILL NEVER ALLOW
THIS IN THE FUTURE.

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Was this the one where Schiller mentioned the bit about they spend a year working on a new file system and no one cares, and they do two new emoji and everyone flips out?

That was really a sweet moment for me. The one when I stopped feeling guilty about my next computer purchase being a Windows machine.
Your Windows PC won't have a new FS. Still the 22 years old NTFS.

And Microsoft emojis stink. TBH.

So, good luck!
 
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Good news: You entirely misunderstood the quote.
I don't think I did at all. HFS+ should have been replaced a decade ago. Its an ancient patched up holdover from a completely different era of computing. Its been in desperate need of replacement and they've only now gotten around to it, despite having more than enough resources to tackle the issue. They're only doing it now simply because the ancient system simply won't work well on new storage technologies. this isn't some "gee let's do something great for the users" moment, this is nothing more than an "oh &%@#" moment because they've waited as long as they possibly could.

They've made clear where their priorities are, and that's fine. It makes them money, why should they change that? Do I agree with it? No.
 

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I don't think I did at all. HFS+ should have been replaced a decade ago. Its an ancient patched up holdover from a completely different era of computing. Its been in desperate need of replacement and they've only now gotten around to it, despite having more than enough resources to tackle the issue. They're only doing it now simply because the ancient system simply won't work well on new storage technologies. this isn't some "gee let's do something great for the users" moment, this is nothing more than an "oh &%@#" moment because they've waited as long as they possibly could.

They've made clear where their priorities are, and that's fine. It makes them money, why should they change that? Do I agree with it? No.
Because NTFS is any better...
 

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Your Windows PC won't have a new FS. Still the 22 years old NTFS.
You're right about that. But, unlike OSX, I have the ability to chose other file systems which wont completely break my OS installation.
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And Microsoft emojis stink. TBH.
You're right about that. Funny thing is, I dont use them. I use my computer for work. I use my eyes and my ears and my mouth to interact with the people around me. When they're not around, I use my phone. You know, that device you use to communicate with people. While I work. On my computer.

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So, good luck!
Thanks. Me & the GF are actually planning a little getaway vacation since now I'll be spending about 50% less on a better spec machine than I would be getting in the joke called a Mac Pro. I'll be sure and DM you some pics from the beach, with a LOT of microsoft emojis.
 
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Good stuff. Though Gruber is a really bad interviewer. Maybe it's nerves or something else, but while I like his commentary, could use some help here.
 
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You're right about that. But, unlike OSX, I have the ability to chose other file systems which wont completely break my OS installation.
You're so completely wrong, it's disgusting.

I use my computer for work.
I use my computer for more than work.

I'll be spending about 50% less on a better spec machine
You think.

again, do you actually computer? there *are* other file systems besides NTFS.
There are also other Fs besides HFS+ and Windows requires NTFS for boot, and isn't upgrading that clunky old FS.

You can use OpenZFS on Mac, but you can't on Windows.

OpenZFS is arguably the best filesystem as of today.
 

Jyby

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Federighi is all the hope I have left in apple
Yeah my friend resembles Federighi a whole lot its a blast to be around him.

Also I think the host missed his chance to have some real talk! He did a lot of regurgitation... "cloud kit, app store, safari extentions." In my head Im like you dope get Federighi to talk about something interesting..
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Good stuff. Though Gruber is a really bad interviewer. Maybe it's nerves or something else, but while I like his commentary, could use some help here.
Yeah he really sucked and didnt make intelligent conversation.. Missed opportunity
 

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Federighi really embodies the spirit of Apple in my opinion. Federighi's presentation on OS X/macOS and iOS at WWDC was great, polished and intelligent and the demos smart, witty and slick.
unfortunately, then came all the unprepared hipsters to talk about the new stuff and they all had issues showing the new tacky stuff.
 
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