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Phil Schiller Says Apple Tested and Rejected Touch Screen Macs, Finding It 'Absurd' on a Desktop
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I have ... and what I've read doesn't align with your comment.
I did. He just doesn't understand reality.
Surface studio looks pretty cool but I'll reserve any praise because we are talking about MS and I wonder how stable and good is the performance on a real use environment.
That said, Apple is indeed sleeping at the wheel when it comes to the Mac. They could do so much more and the executives are just cashing their checks and not really pushing it forward. I am really concerned. Hopefully MS can give Apple a run for their money so the can really innovate.
I have to say I don't see Microsoft executives having to defend their decisions by belittling its customers..... things MUST be bad at Infinit Loop if they have to do that now.
Damage control after Microsoft showed them what the iMac should have been two years ago.
I charge my iphone on a dock by my bedside. Never connect it to the computer.
I don't have an external monitor so that helps, but everything else (printer, drives, backups) are on the network and not directly connected to my laptop. I should state I have a powerful mesh network in the house. I have a wifi Nikon camera that allows me to connect without wires (although when I take 100 pictures, I do use an SD card reader because that is way faster). Of course on the desktop I the magic keyboard and trackpad so again no wires. Basically, I need one wire to charge and that's pretty much it. Of course I could do the wireless headphones, but stick with cheap wired ones right now (on my list to upgrade).
The touch experience on a Windows 10 2-in-1 is a hell of a lot better than an iPad.
Doesn't anyone besides me realize that a trackpad is a touchscreen? Sliding a finger across a trackpad before a tap is much more efficient than touching a finger to a screen.
Convergence is docking your smartphone and using that for the trackpad. Whoever develops this first is going to be the next Apple. Convergence will destroy the phone market like the iPad destroyed the pc.
Apple is planting the seeds of its own destruction by failing to realize what the WORLD wants is a cost effective device that runs macOS, not thinner or faster or more innovative.
Just like selling the iPhone 4s at cost plus 10% at end of cycle would have owned the phone market, a $400 hacintosh would own the computer market. But rich guys can never figure this out.
Convergence is docking your smartphone and using that for the trackpad. Whoever develops this first is going to be the next Apple. Convergence will destroy the phone market like the iPad destroyed the pc.
Apple is planting the seeds of its own destruction by failing to realize what the WORLD wants is a cost effective device that runs macOS, not thinner or faster or more innovative.
Just like selling the iPhone 4s at cost plus 10% at end of cycle would have owned the phone market, a $400 hacintosh would own the computer market. But rich guys can never figure this out.
Regarding Steve's comments on stylii, I always wonder if people are being willfully ignorant or plain thick.
Stylus for precision tasks are absolutely valid, he wasn't arguing against that. He was clearly talking about using a stylus for general input, for which capacitive touch and fingers are a million times better. I'm not defending Apple here, but introducing the stylus for the iPad Pro line was for precision tasks and Wacom type activities, for which finger input is woefully inaccurate and clumsy.
Equally, using a stylus for general input on a phone or tablet suuuuucks. I kinda liked my HTC TyTn at the time, but the experience was awful poking it with a stylus to make a blooming phone call or equivalent.
Stylus for precision tasks are absolutely valid, he wasn't arguing against that. He was clearly talking about using a stylus for general input, for which capacitive touch and fingers are a million times better. I'm not defending Apple here, but introducing the stylus for the iPad Pro line was for precision tasks and Wacom type activities, for which finger input is woefully inaccurate and clumsy.
Equally, using a stylus for general input on a phone or tablet suuuuucks. I kinda liked my HTC TyTn at the time, but the experience was awful poking it with a stylus to make a blooming phone call or equivalent.
No you didn't understand it at all.
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Do you text on a smartphone?
Let's revisit the quote: “Can you imagine a 27-inch iMac where you have to reach over the air to try to touch and do things? That becomes absurd.”
The "absurd" part is not touch screen. It's not even reaching over the air. It's having to reach over the air. That's the leap where Schiller lost me. Suggesting that if there is a touch screen, all other input options suddenly disappear.
The “lowest common denominator thinking,” the idea that things have to work the same way on desktops and laptops is a philosophy that's omnipresent at Apple. It's the reason iWork apps for Mac were dumbed down to work like their iOS counterpart. But it's a very restrictive and limiting philosophy. Having consistency is good, but dismissing a feature simply because it may not be useful to every user is absurd. That's why optional features are offered.
The "absurd" part is not touch screen. It's not even reaching over the air. It's having to reach over the air. That's the leap where Schiller lost me. Suggesting that if there is a touch screen, all other input options suddenly disappear.
The “lowest common denominator thinking,” the idea that things have to work the same way on desktops and laptops is a philosophy that's omnipresent at Apple. It's the reason iWork apps for Mac were dumbed down to work like their iOS counterpart. But it's a very restrictive and limiting philosophy. Having consistency is good, but dismissing a feature simply because it may not be useful to every user is absurd. That's why optional features are offered.
Can you not count the grains of sand and/or their particular constituents?!?! When I'm discussing quantities of sand, I almost always use the exact number of grains.
What if the cables are infinite, and therefor uncountable? How could they be countable if no such number exists?
Take your grammar elsewhere. It has no place here.
I think they could do it for their laptops and leave it off their iMacs. I think Philly pivoted the conversation there... It's not like there aren't differentiators among the various products anyway. The iMac doesn't have a touch bar. Will the external keyboards of the future have one?
And in "Drafting Table" mode, not only your hands, but your ENTIRE ARM has to be suspended OVER THE SCREEN in a MOST-UNNATURAL POSITION.
My shoulders and arms ache just THINKING about the Surface Studio. That's probably why you haven't seen any advertisements for it.
I have a iPad Pro, it collects dust most of the time, I use it for traveling. Doesn't hold a candle to a laptop. Look at the picture, I can even watch movies and youtube hands free.
That's what touch rejection is for and based on the Surface Studio demos I've seen it implements it well enough to not have to worry about even laying your arm on the display if you choose.
The hands free part I mostly agree with. Somehow, when using the iPad smart cover, I can use friction to hold my ipad up on my legs without my hands.
The major difference for me is heat. My laptop (2011 mbp 15", with ssd and 8gb ram) creates more heat with videos than ipad.
Perhaps you think proximity measurements between user and device means nothing.