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Phil Schiller Says iPad Pro Can Both Supplement and Replace the Mac
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To add on, what the haters here need to realise is that this isn't a binary situation. No one is holding a gun to my head and forcing me to give up my Mac in exchange for using the iPad, nor is the iPad necessarily a crippled device just because it cannot yet replace my Mac 100%. Each has its place in my life, and I am happily using all my Apple products.
Case in point - I own an iPhone, iPad Pro, MacBook Air and iMac. At home, I use my iMac to help prepare my work-related documents for use on my iPad. At work, I use my iPad to teach in the classroom and my MacBook Air for work that requires a conventional PC. I do have a work-issued windows touchscreen computer, but I use that mainly for accessing my network drives and printing documents. I don't use my iPad to create google forms, just as I don't walk around my class with MacBook Air in hand trying to annotate on pdf documents.
Every now and then, I uncover a new workflow which lets me do something on my iOS devices that I couldn't do before (such as automating a previously cumbersome task via workflow), but otherwise, I don't force myself to use my iPad for tasks I know it isn't suitable for. Having used the iPad for such a purpose since 2012, I will say that iPad productivity has come a very long way. And it says a lot that we have moved on from general statements (eg: the iPad can't multitask) to extremely specific and niche use cases (the iPad can't run linux) which really impact like what - 1% of users?
Likewise, the majority of the tasks people here are saying the iPad cannot do, I have absolutely no idea what they are. So I can't access Terminal, or develop iOS apps? I suppose that might be a cause for concern, if I needed to perform those tasks in the first place. I think the posters here also need to realise that their needs aren't really representative of the general consumer at large, and stop acting like their needs are the be-all and end-all of what makes a pro computer.
Wake up, people. The iPad may not be something you personally can use instead of a laptop, but let’s not confuse that with the fact that the iPad is a powerful computer that maybe, just maybe, can exist as an alternative to what’s out there instead of a straight replacement.
Why not...
The moment Google asks you about the quality of the Brothel you just went in, you will regret your decision.
I use it for Organic Chem/Bio Chem and basically all undergrad notes/PowerPoints/etc using the Notability app. It is extremely handy. Plus reports I’ve had to type in Word, I can edit and continue on the iPad. For my purposes, it is a very handy device and certainly has been a replacement for 90% of the tasks. If not for the antiquated system most public institutions have in place as far as acceptable file formats and programs, I could extend the usage to probably 99% of all tasks I need from a computer.
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That seems like a knee jerk response. If Android works better for you, good. But you do realize Phil talks about the capability of the iPad as a replacement AND/OR compliment to the Mac the SAME day they release their most powerful PC yet?
the iPad Pro can definitely replace a Macbook .. if the user is a kid that has no job just doodles stuff all day long. This commercial is horrible
Maybe soon, Phil, maybe soon... but not today.
The iPad is the kind of computer a person uses when they aren't doing heavy computing tasks. It's not capable of being a "do all" at this point, mostly due to processor power and OS programming. I bet it gets there by 2022, though, if Apple revamps the OS to have a "pro" mode.
The iPad is the kind of computer a person uses when they aren't doing heavy computing tasks. It's not capable of being a "do all" at this point, mostly due to processor power and OS programming. I bet it gets there by 2022, though, if Apple revamps the OS to have a "pro" mode.
I'm confused.
Apple's head of Marketing says something. "Well, he's just using marketing speak." Shocking, I know.
He says: the iPad can either be used as a primary computer, or as a supplemental device. Everyone thinks Apple is back on the "They are getting rid of the Mac and focusing on the iPad" bandwagon.
The flip mentality is people who can use the iPad as their only, or primary device do simple work that can be done on ancient computers.
So I don't like those broad statements, because while you are correct, it paints a broad brush and assumes the inability to those things are important to all people.
Can I do everything I can on my Mac on my iPad? No. That doesn't negate the iPad since the primary, non-day job work I do is drawing and writing. I find the iPad more conducive to those tasks. Procreate is an amazing app, as is Affinity Photo. While Ulysses is close to feature complete between the two OSs, at this point my muscle memory is better on iOS for a lot of tasks.
I can even do a lot of my day job on the iPad. Even those of us who create output as part of our jobs don't usually spend 8 hours a day creating that output. I've got two documents I need to do this week, and I've probably spent about 2 hours working on them. Why? Meetings after meetings after meetings. The iPad is great for taking notes on, or dealing with emails, and the general day to day minutia that wears down life in corporations. Even with how half-featured Word is on the iPad I could still get a lot of my documents done on the iPad.
I don't often find myself needing to get into the Terminal, or attach a USB storage device, or rip a CD into iTunes. I don't like printing out paper that is just going to get tossed into a recycle bin after the meeting. I don't want to get too far down that rabbit hole since it is easy to move the goalposts on both sides.
If those types of things, and other things you need a Mac for are tasks people do every day, well, Apple still makes the Mac and will for a while.
Apple's head of Marketing says something. "Well, he's just using marketing speak." Shocking, I know.
He says: the iPad can either be used as a primary computer, or as a supplemental device. Everyone thinks Apple is back on the "They are getting rid of the Mac and focusing on the iPad" bandwagon.
The flip mentality is people who can use the iPad as their only, or primary device do simple work that can be done on ancient computers.
So I don't like those broad statements, because while you are correct, it paints a broad brush and assumes the inability to those things are important to all people.
Can I do everything I can on my Mac on my iPad? No. That doesn't negate the iPad since the primary, non-day job work I do is drawing and writing. I find the iPad more conducive to those tasks. Procreate is an amazing app, as is Affinity Photo. While Ulysses is close to feature complete between the two OSs, at this point my muscle memory is better on iOS for a lot of tasks.
I can even do a lot of my day job on the iPad. Even those of us who create output as part of our jobs don't usually spend 8 hours a day creating that output. I've got two documents I need to do this week, and I've probably spent about 2 hours working on them. Why? Meetings after meetings after meetings. The iPad is great for taking notes on, or dealing with emails, and the general day to day minutia that wears down life in corporations. Even with how half-featured Word is on the iPad I could still get a lot of my documents done on the iPad.
I don't often find myself needing to get into the Terminal, or attach a USB storage device, or rip a CD into iTunes. I don't like printing out paper that is just going to get tossed into a recycle bin after the meeting. I don't want to get too far down that rabbit hole since it is easy to move the goalposts on both sides.
If those types of things, and other things you need a Mac for are tasks people do every day, well, Apple still makes the Mac and will for a while.
Nicely written if disingenuous. People are pushing back because of the claim it can replace your laptop/pc. It can't. Read on ...
The iPad is a computer. Granted. Many have multiple devices, but not everyone.
I work in Regulatory. In Engineering. I work on ERP and database systems. The IPP cannot do the job I need. So why use an IPP and a laptop? I use a laptop.
Now I did challenge myself and tried to have the IPP replace my rMB for a month. It couldn't. I still needed the rMB for some tasks, some sites, and software.
Recently I ran into a bunch of issues with my 7+ and IPP 12.09 G2 when I updated to iOS 11. On both devices, with Apples guidance, ended up resetting as new to correct some issues that came from the update. Pita. Had to use my rMB for that. Needed iTunes.
Then there is Phil's comment
Apple has a ways to go. They need to break the chain. They need to have the tools that allows you to use an IPP as a laptop. Till then, it's a marketing claim and some will be able to do most of their activities. But not all. For many, their needs define what is a laptop for them. If you need a pickup truck you don't buy a Corolla. Give folks a break.
I do applaud your continued looking for IPP driven work streams to help you in the classroom. The IPP is a supplemental tool. Maybe someday it can be the primary.
So, you fit just fine with the iPad where you are mostly using the office apps, did I understand correctly?
Sadly, it does not do any engineering work for me even for my undergrad classes, let alone the grad courses.
That is Apple's target demographic, too dumb to know what a computer is. Come to think about it, I supposed that fits Cook also.
[doublepost=1513123716][/doublepost]It could replace a computer if Apple would add a USB Port to sernd and receive files such as pics and be able to use an external hard drive.
Apple's marketing chief Phil Schiller believes the iPad Pro can be both a PC replacement and a supplementary device to the Mac.
In a wide-ranging interview with T3 about the iPad Pro and other Apple products, including the iPhone X, iMac Pro, HomePod, and AirPods, Schiller said the iPad Pro's exact use case ultimately varies by customer.Schiller added that, for many customers, the iPad Pro becomes their primary computing device, especially while traveling.Schiller acknowledged that this isn't the case for everyone, as some customers may only use an iPad Pro for certain tasks where a tablet can provide a better experience, such as reading or watching movie and TV shows.Schiller referred to the iPad Pro as a computer on a few occasions, which contrasts with Apple's latest "What's a Computer?" ad for the tablet.
At the end of the video, a mother asks her young daughter "what are you doing on your computer?" and the daughter responds by asking "what's a computer?" to imply that the iPad Pro is not a computer.
While the ad might suggest Apple's increasing focus on the iPad over the Mac, Schiller ensured that the company "cares deeply" about its pro customers. "We love that so much is created on Mac," he said.
To address the needs of those professionals, Apple is launching a powerful iMac Pro this week. The company is also working on a modular Mac Pro that will be accompanied by Apple-branded pro displays.
Interview: Apple's Phil Schiller on How the iPhone X 'Seemed Impossible at the Start'
Article Link: Phil Schiller Says iPad Pro Can Both Supplement and Replace the Mac
For them.
That's the distinction. People are using their own personal experiences and opinions of why the iPad isn't a PC replacement for them, and projecting their needs onto the rest of the user populace. Because god knows everyone needs to code iOS apps, or terminal access, or some other extremely niche use case.
The self-styled pro users here are not a niche group. They are a niche of a niche. To be honest, their computing needs simply aren't representative of the needs of the mass consumer, and they need to stop acting like they are the sole arbiters of what makes a PC and what doesn't.
In the same vein, I don't buy a truck even though there might be that handful of times when I might need to move something. I get a car, and hire movers for the few times I need to transport something bulky.
Your quote stated that according to Phil, some people are indeed using their iPad as their only or primary computer. I fail to see what is wrong with that. Is it so hard to imagine that somewhere out there, there is this individual for whom the iPad meets all his needs, and he doesn't need to go turn on a PC ever?
I will tell you why there is such a huge outburst. These people are afraid. They fear what the future portends. A future where the iPad is the general PC for the masses, and the Mac has been relegated to niche market status. And fear turns to anger and denial.
They cannot stop what is to come.
The point I'm making is that if something doesn't work, I have ways of fixing it on macOS. On iOS you're stuck with the system and the only options allowed are those that apple provides you, and the control that apple provides you on iOS is pretty much nothing
“At the end of the video, a mother asks her young daughter "what are you doing on your computer?" and the daughter responds by asking "what's a computer?" to imply that the iPad Pro is not a computer.”
I did not get that at all from the video. My take is that the daughter only knows her iPad, has never used a computer and thus does not understand that the very device she is using, the device she refers to as iPad is indeed a computer.
I did not get that at all from the video. My take is that the daughter only knows her iPad, has never used a computer and thus does not understand that the very device she is using, the device she refers to as iPad is indeed a computer.
what would you need, ten years ago, if you wanted to email/browse/play a few games/light photo editing/etc?
you needed a computer, right? now you can do that stuff on an iPad or a phone even.
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idk, i think this is more about p.Schiller just pointing out the obvious and bunch of people being triggered by his statements.. even though these people are misconstruing what Apple/Schiller say in order to complain about it.
It sounds like the IPP being a desktop replacement encompasses a lot of the casual users website surfers? If that's the case, you got many more options than ever, including a $200 Chromebook. Despite issues that cropped up, it's still an absolute delight to use.
Wow. That’s just precious. You know so much about a kid just by a commercial? Heck, I’d say the people that are getting triggered are the ones in this topic.
From the article and the original article that posted this ad a few weeks ago ...
The girl is Caucasian, the woman is black, and be that as it may could be part of the same family. But then why is the woman on the other side of the fence on another property if she’s the girls mother when she asks what is what the girl is doing on the computer?
The girl is Caucasian, the woman is black, and be that as it may could be part of the same family. But then why is the woman on the other side of the fence on another property if she’s the girls mother when she asks what is what the girl is doing on the computer?