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These comments are quite stupid. In actual fact I would think it would be quite likely that my car would scratch, given that it is also very unlikely to have been designed to come in contact with coins and keys every single day or to "lobbed" into a bag, or on to a table, whereas a phone should be designed to exactly cope with that likelihood!

Disagree - if one is worried about scratches than don't carry your phone with keys and coins.
 
Aluminum will scratch, but it shouldn't be showing bare metal with tiny scratches. That is just poor build quality.

How thick do you think anodising is? It only a couple of thousandths of a millimetre so it doesn't take much to get through it to the base metal.

Also, the high-gloss black plastic back on the 3GS and the mirror finish stainless back on the iPod Touch scratched/scuffed without much effort too, was there a similar outcry about those?
 
Phil Schiller on maps.......

LOL! I personally have had no issues with maps in the Syracuse, NY area, or the issue The Verge had with the Brooklyn bridge when looking it up. The only time this is an issue is when in 3D. Switch to 2D top down views and I think most issues disappear, but they should have said it was in beta just like Siri to stop the bad press.
 
I had thought about looking into how difficult it would be to have the black aluminum completely polished out or bead blasted. There are companies that do this service for stainless steel watches so I'm sure it would be possible.

I really like the all Black iPhone 5 but a totally custom one with polished aluminum or bead blasted/brushed would look very cool too...then if a scratch occurs it won't be so obvious and could easily be buffed out.
 
You guys remember that the black phones were the most popular this update.

Perhaps the black anodizing in the AL backs is a touch thin. This can be measured and compared to a nominal anodized coating. There are norms when it comes to anodized coatings.
 
How thick do you think anodising is? It only a couple of thousandths of a millimetre so it doesn't take much to get through it to the base metal.

Also, the high-gloss black plastic back on the 3GS and the mirror finish stainless back on the iPod Touch scratched/scuffed without much effort too, was there a similar outcry about those?

Somehow other device manufacturers have managed to do a pretty good job.
 
The Aluminum droids scuff just as easily, but you don't see complaints like this because they are not nearly as picky as Apple users.

My friend i don't care what the android users do,this guys(android) go and buy phones that they know security on them is like emmental cheese screw them.
But i expect from the company that i buy its products to respect me as a consumer and when i give them top dollars to take it into account, do you see me bitching about fm radio,bt sharing, etc?
They had 2 years time to find a solution so the new iphone since they chose to make it aluminum and paint it black not to lose its paint because you "looked at it the wrong way"or because you breath on it,cases are not the solution because it will scratch it unless you put cotton in them :rolleyes:.
Solution? I believe you know what this is as many others do, but apple chose not to try to find a solution and that pisses me off big time.
 
HURR DURR I SKRATCH'D MAH PHONE WAI IS IT SILVER UNDUR THE CULUR?

that's how anodized metal works, fools. SMHSMHSMH
 
in honesty, aluminum is actually a really poor material to make a portable device with. theres a really flexible multi-use material developed for such things called plastics. ... but with that said, aluminum is much prettier.
 
The Aluminum droids scuff just as easily, but you don't see complaints like this because they are not nearly as picky as Apple users.

They're just happy not to have the plasticky ones (Samsungs). :D

When Apple said "black anodized aluminum," I thought uh oh. Anyone who's ever owned anything using dark or colored anodized aluminum would know from experience exactly how this would pan out over the long (or sadly, in this case short) run.

Do the designers not anticipate these issues during the design process? :(

Guess I'll be going with the white one this time around.

I do love the stainless steel band on my 4. And yes, while the back glass wafer can shatter, it is also simple and relatively inexpensive to replace. The unibody aluminum comes with its own pros and cons.

All that said, it will be funny watching the Samsung fans - with their own cracked and seamed plastic phones - point their fingers and laugh, if not self-deceptively.
 
I guess I'm trying to say the same thing as you - It's a phone, and it should be expected to get scratched, it's not a big deal. But I've never been "careful" with my phones and almost every single one (all the way back to my old Nokia brick) has been scratched or scuffed within a few days use.

:) Though you accept that by not being careful, there are (higher) risks of things getting scratched - which is great and the logical approach :) If you had been careful and still got scratches you may be more disheartened. The problem underlying here, I think, is that Apple have created such high expectations of themselves and their products that any minor fault is exaggerated to a stupid level. I love Apple dearly, but they kinda create rods for their own backs by being so "cool".
 
The Aluminum droids scuff just as easily, but you don't see complaints like this because they are not nearly as picky as Apple users.

haha, that could be true. :) I do baby my devices completely the first few months but then I realize I want to make sure to use it instead of completely babying it and thus live with whatever damage I cause.
 
But i expect from the company that i buy its products to respect me as a consumer and when i give them top dollars to take it into account

Actually, to be fair, you're spending the same amount of money on a plastic Samsung phone as you are on an aluminum Apple phone, so it's wrong to imply we're paying a premium (at least in the case of smartphones) for better build materials.

The amazing thing is you're getting better build materials in the iPhone than you get for equivalent prices in the plastic world of Android (specifically Samsung).
 
if its "normal" then apple should have used a different material duh

isnt apple supposed to be all about "quality"



to be fair, the iPhone 4 had to worst home button ever that broke on literally every iPhone 4 i came across. that "bug" indeed got fixed on the iPhone 4S

A perfect example of 'confirmation bias'.
 
Actually, to be fair, you're spending the same amount of money on a plastic Samsung phone as you are on an aluminum Apple phone, so it's wrong to imply we're paying a premium (at least in the case of smartphones) for better build materials.

The amazing thing is you're getting better build materials in the iPhone than you get for equivalent prices in the plastic world of Android (specifically Samsung).


Does the GS3 retail as the 32GB iphone? 64GB? Since when?
 
I had thought about looking into how difficult it would be to have the black aluminum completely polished out or bead blasted. There are companies that do this service for stainless steel watches so I'm sure it would be possible.

I really like the all Black iPhone 5 but a totally custom one with polished aluminum or bead blasted/brushed would look very cool too...then if a scratch occurs it won't be so obvious and could easily be buffed out.

It would probably be a lot cheaper and give a much better result to just buy a white one and swap out the front panel for a black panel. Two screws, a suction cup and you're done. Refinishing a black body would require you to tear the whole thing apart (you'd be crazy to bead blast it with the phone intact) and the final product would no longer be anodized... so it would be much softer and even more prone to damage.
 
Disagree - if one is worried about scratches than don't carry your phone with keys and coins.

err you don't get the point. It doesn't matter whether I am worried about scratches or not. A phone is designed for a certain type of "usual" use, which is entirely different for what a car typically designed for, so the anal comments about if you scratch a car with keys, that you will get the same result are quite stupid.
 
err you don't get the point. It doesn't matter whether I am worried about scratches or not. A phone is designed for a certain type of "usual" use, which is entirely different for what a car typically designed for, so the anal comments about if you scratch a car with keys, that you will get the same result are quite stupid.

not sure why one would put keys in the same pocket as a phone

in the 4+ years of having an iphone, the phone has its own pocket

adapt
 
The white iPhone scratches just as easily. It's just a lot less noticeable. Put a case on it. Going naked is dangerous. & i'll quote the awkward "speech" my mom gave me as a teen: ALWAYS use protection. It's better to be safe than sorry!

Yep, mine has a couple of tiny marks on the back now from where I must have put it down on something. Not a whole lot we can do, aluminium is soft and will mark easily.
 
I'm really surprised at people actually being this shocked to find that these phones scratch. Remember the first iPhone and the 3G/3GS? Even the 4/4Sa little. Those scratched too, because that's what happens when you use things. They don't and won't stay in perfect condition.

They probably did it on purpose so you can customize the back of your phone and self engrave your name into it.
 
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