Phil Schiller Says iPhone Was 'Earth-Shattering' Ten Years Ago and Remains 'Unmatched' Today

[I7guy]

What I do know is Timmy suffered a massive paycut which suggests his performance wasn't up to snuff and that the sales of the iPad as a whole continue to tank unobstructed. Apparently though now that they have almost touched rock bottom the good news is there is only 1 way from here- Up

Well he more than made up for it in prior years as apple was catapulted to the most valuable company. What was his Pay in 2014? iPad still "destroys" the rest of the tablet industry, but it could have been better if jobs wasn't so short sighted. Apple only made $46b last quarter, they must be hurting. And iOS is steves baby, whatever it isn't, to whomever wants something different, Timmy is following what jobs started. So if Tim is to blame, jobs is to blame.

 

[nofear1az]

This is a demonstrably incorrect statement. OLED is great for television, not so great for displays that are mostly static, white, used in daylight.

Disagree! I no longer will not use any phone unless it has OLED. It really is that great, and I mean GREAT as in fantastico, what a difference, omgosh I can't believe I used anything else. But of course that's just my opinion and you have yours, right!

 

[PizzaBoxStyle]

What I do know is Timmy suffered a massive paycut which suggests his performance wasn't up to snuff and that the sales of the iPad as a whole continue to tank unobstructed. Apparently though now that they have almost touched rock bottom the good news is there is only 1 way from here- Up

Are you sure about that? ... how sure?

TBH, my feeling is that it could get worse.

I'm just hoping that since they disbanded the Mac teams, that the reallocated resources mean that the next iOS shows some serious WOW.

 

[DeepIn2U]

FB is replacing e-mail as login for most services. Spotify asks for FB login before asking for e-mail.
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But in order to have a login with FB you still required to have an email account with FBto begin with didn't you? savvy?!

 

[nofear1az]

These guys have been drinking their own Kool-aide for too long.

"Personally, I still think the best intelligent assistant is the one that’s with you all the time." Right, unless that happens to be Siri, who can't consistently do 90% of the things she ought to be able to consistently do.

Typical of the new Apple way, it's a rehashed statement of: The best camera you have is the one you have on you.

 

[Cosmosent]

Apple's LAST BIG SUCCESS occurred at the transition to the 4.7" iPhone 6 and 5.5" iPhone 6 Plus ... 50% of the success for the iPhone 6 family can be attributed directly to pent-up demand for larger display iPhones ... the other 50%, however, is probably directly attributed to "the stumble" by Qualcomm in the transition to 64-bit processors ... I happened to be working as a consultant on the SnapDragon line when Apple introduced their 5s, with its ARMv8-based dual-core 64-bit processor ... its common knowledge now, that Qualcomm was completely caught off guard by that ... and, that it took Qualcomm more than a year to recover ... so by the time the iPhone 6 family was announced & shipping, there were NO competitive Android-based smartphones based-upon high-end Qualcomm chips ... to me, this says ALOT about the state of Apple.

Their success is 50% their own doing, but the other 50% is simply due to weak competition ... if I remember correctly, Steve Jobs even says something similar in the Bio book about him.

Apple's newest products have a single differentiated attribute, Wide Color capture & display (available with the iPhone 7 family and the 9.7" iPad Pro) ... yet, I'd bet 99% of all Apple Users have NO clue what it means or why it might be a benefit ... Steve Jobs, IMO, would very-likely have made it the very centerpiece of the Sept 7th event, yet Apple's Top Mgmt decided to pass it off to some Dude from Instagram ... go figure !

You want to know why the iPhone 7 family sales are sliding ??? ... because Apple didn't do a good-enough job promoting it's ONE & ONLY product attribute that makes it truly special ! ... they had a hit on their hands, and they whiffed badly !

 

[George Dawes]

All I do know is the iphone has made people insular idiots who walk into you in the street and have no manners or care for anyone else but themselves and their itoys

 

[44267547]

Blackberry had an outsized reputation in the business world. Their sales never lit the world on fire. In 2007 BB wasn't even a 200lb Gorilla, it had just cracked the Top 10 phone vendors, along with Apple. Nokia was the 800lb Gorilla.
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Blackberry was primarily huge for corporations, partly because of their secured E-mail servers. Back around 2009, Blackberry actually had representatives who would meet with companies and present their newest features and why they should continue to utilize their services, offering accessories and Demoing their newest devices and software. It was fairly hands on and it was excellently executed During that time frame.

 

[Savor]

Phil was right with the Earth-shattering comment. But by early-2013 when I saw ads for the Sony Xperia Z and HTC One, the iPhone was already getting surpassed. It was unmatched for about only five years because of the software and Android was still very immature.

Features like water-resistance and dual front speakers were added on the iPhone 7 three and a half years later after Sony and HTC. Raise to wake is a ripoff of Motorola's Active Display. SwiftKey is a far superior keyboard than the one found on iOS and its default keyboard. Many Android OEM's already removed the physical home button while LG copied double tap to wake from Nokia. Some had IR blaster and FM radio back then.

It has been nearly five years ago when the iPhone was already "matched." Then another year or so until it was clearly surpassed. The iPhone is no longer the best in most areas like before. Take out iOS and put Android on the iPhone and it probably wouldn't be any different than a Huawei P9. All I expect Apple to do is just copy the Samsung Galaxy S7 edge and Xiaomi Mi Mix with the iPhone 8. Reuse the shell design for two more years but add different colors after each year.

Smartphones have reached its peak similar to laptops back in the late-00's and early-10's. People in homeless shelters probably have iPhones. Time to look for fresh new technology elsewhere. I gave up on finding the next best thing with smartphones. More of the same every year now and more idiot fanboys arguing the merits between Samsung vs Apple, iOS vs Android.

 

[MH01]

Well he more than made up for it in prior years as apple was catapulted to the most valuable company. What was his Pay in 2014? iPad still "destroys" the rest of the tablet industry, but it could have been better if jobs wasn't so short sighted. Apple only made $46b last quarter, they must be hurting. And iOS is steves baby, whatever it isn't, to whomever wants something different, Timmy is following what jobs started. So if Tim is to blame, jobs is to blame.

If you remove the iPhone from the profits for analysis, it gets more intersecting , the iPad is not destroying the competition as sales keep dropping, it's the price keeps going up to maintain the profit . So unit for unit, iPad sales are declining.

Jobs was smart enough not to add a stylus to an iPad, so yeah that is tims fault , jobs was right about iOS and not having a KB / pencil as input devices. Tim has no vision, he will add any product or variation of , that might bring in profits.

Timmy is not following what Jobs started, he is following the $$$ and slowly destroying what Steve started. Every time steves leaves apple the product line fragments chasin profits and company comes undone, 1997, 2017....here we go again. History repeats

 

[iCloudStrife]

All I do know is the iphone has made people insular idiots who walk into you in the street and have no manners or care for anyone else but themselves and their itoys

People were always like that. If anything, the iPhone just gave them what they always wanted: a way to escape being "present" in their own life.

 

[OS6-OSX]

Phil Schiller Says Macpro Was Not 'Earth-Shattering' Three Years Ago and Remains 'UnUpdated' Today!

 

[Jim Lahey]

What I described are feasible within the next 10-15 years.

So are anti-gravity boots, which Apple may well be working on at this very moment, for all we know. Instantaneous teleportation was more Steve Jobs, I'll grant you that.

 

[doitdada]

But in order to have a login with FB you still required to have an email account with FBto begin with didn't you? savvy?!

You may use your phone number.

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1. Enter your name and email or mobile phone number

 

[Geurt]

Quite a bit frustration here, and some of it is understandable. Even more when you realize the chance you buy a new iPhone is ONLY 50%. You buy one or not.... common sense

 

[frankgrimes]

Schiller is so full of himself unreal. Guy can't barely say anything without superlatives.

Iphone still has a topnotch build quality but lacks some important features like micro sd card slot, better display especially on the non plus variants.

 

[Radon87000]

Well he more than made up for it in prior years as apple was catapulted to the most valuable company.

The iPhone 6 was his last hurrah .Kinda like how when the engine sputters and you give the accelerator one last push and the car goes forward at high speed with a jerk before standing still. Reminds me of the companies that peak before tumbling down

What was his Pay in 2014? iPad still "destroys" the rest of the tablet industry, but it could have been better if jobs wasn't so short sighted.

iPad destroyed a non existent competition and wasn't iPad on the uptick when Jobs was around and it literally cratered when Timmy took over

Apple only made $46b last quarter, they must be hurting.

Which is down from previous quarter.All internal performance targets missed.15% cut in paycheck.Production cut on the iPhone 7. If this keeps up a zero isn't far

And iOS is steves baby, whatever it isn't, to whomever wants something different, Timmy is following what jobs started. So if Tim is to blame, jobs is to blame.

iOS continued to innovate when Steve was around.It became stagnant and buggy once Timmy took over and he fired the best software executive around aka Forstall

 

[Radon87000]

Disagree! I no longer will not use any phone unless it has OLED. It really is that great, and I mean GREAT as in fantastico, what a difference, omgosh I can't believe I used anything else. But of course that's just my opinion and you have yours, right!

I keep saying the same thing to these LCD enthusiasts. Once you switch OLED, iPhone LCD display feels like those bargain smartphone displays at Walmart

 

[Shearwater]

.and Phil replied......

 

[Jim Lahey]

I keep saying the same thing to these LCD enthusiasts. Once you switch OLED, iPhone LCD display feels like those bargain smartphone displays at Walmart

I completely agree with this. iPhone, iPad and MacBooks cannot adopt OLED fast enough in my opinion. People will talk about image retention and over-saturated colours, but these things are not inherent issues with modern OLED technology. Some implementations of it may exhibit these traits, but they do not go hand-in-hand with the technology. What it does guarantee is that when I wake my iPhone in a darkened room, I will not be greeted with a silver rectangle.

Obviously without wishing to insult any individual - in my opinion anyone who cannot see the benefit of a good OLED needs to visit an optometrist

 

[elmaco]

So are anti-gravity boots, which Apple may well be working on at this very moment, for all we know. Instantaneous teleportation was more Steve Jobs, I'll grant you that.

Nah, we would need to rewrite physics and that's beyond both Tim and Steve, even though Jobs could create reality distortion fields.

 

[Radon87000]

Timmy is not following what Jobs started, he is following the $$$ and slowly destroying what Steve started. Every time steves leaves apple the product line fragments chasin profits and company comes undone, 1997, 2017....here we go again. History repeats

Steve's foresight is amazing.If you listen to this interview,what you will hear is an eerily accurate description of the current Apple.

Even in his keynotes you could tell the enthusiasm from the guy's tones and his actions,that he understood making great products was what drives success and not constant pursuit of profit margins.I actually like hearing to his presentations every now and then.They are actually fun.Current Apple keynotes are a snoozefest.I wake up after 15 mins to hear Tim is still talking about the environment and My little ponyesque games while Schiller is still trying to crack lame jokes which the audience seems paid to laugh and applaud because they arent even remotely funny

 

[jaymie1983]

That's a matter of opinion & arrogance will cost

 

[I7guy]

If you remove the iPhone from the profits for analysis, it gets more intersecting , the iPad is not destroying the competition as sales keep dropping, it's the price keeps going up to maintain the profit . So unit for unit, iPad sales are declining.

Jobs was smart enough not to add a stylus to an iPad, so yeah that is tims fault , jobs was right about iOS and not having a KB / pencil as input devices. Tim has no vision, he will add any product or variation of , that might bring in profits.

Timmy is not following what Jobs started, he is following the $$$ and slowly destroying what Steve started. Every time steves leaves apple the product line fragments chasin profits and company comes undone, 1997, 2017....here we go again. History repeats

That's like saying to Microsoft, if you remove Windows from the profits for analysis, what's left? So then what percentage of total table sales is ipad vs the rest? While I don't justify price increases everything in my life as increased in price lately.

Tim's biggest break through is the apple pencil, finally. Maybe it will work with future versions of iphones.

Timmy is following what jobs started, we can debate about this point (and have been doing so), until the cows come home. Is history repeating?

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The iPhone 6 was his last hurrah .Kinda like how when the engine sputters and you give the accelerator one last push and the car goes forward at high speed with a jerk before standing still. Reminds me of the companies that peak before tumbling down

Steve, imo, left it like that in 2011. So now you realize the short-sightness of jobs with larger form factors?

iPad destroyed a non existent competition and wasn't iPad on the uptick when Jobs was around and it literally cratered when Timmy took over

This started in 2010?

iOS continued to innovate when Steve was around.It became stagnant and buggy once Timmy took over and he fired the best software executive around aka Forstall

Under Tim, IOS has had much more innovation, starting with 64 bit and the 5S. Forestall was on his way out anyway, brilliant doesn't cut it if you don't get along with the team.

 

[jav6454]

Voice mail was very nice.

It really was. Also, having those SMS as an IM application was unheard of. You pretty much had to look for the correct SMS in an assumed order. Something we now take for granted,


To reply to the below I'll break it down due to many very valid and good points.

I look at how Jobs presented the phone, and the way he explained why there was a need for such a device was down to earth and revealing in contrast to the high profile celebrity PR monster Apple has become now. Jobs stripped down the brand to the basics, but I feel Apple software is becoming more of a framework rather than organisation that defines the basics and enhances how humans interact with technology. They have become like IBM, trying to ride all directions rather than the road well traveled. (See how IBM fared against Microsoft)

Yes, Jobs excelled at making the complicated uncomplicated and so easy even a 4 year old can use it. Something that has "inexplicably" disappeared with today's Apple. For instance, while the Messages app needed an overhaul, I highly doubt it required the hot mess of stickers, apps and animations. It just reminds me of the clunky FB Messages app. Hot mess.

When I know read about three new iPads being released this quarter, I can't see how another size or color will help this company, even though I believe the hype of AAPL stock won't die overnight. FaceBook has had an enormous growth over the years, and is disrupting the web browser, e-mail and other legacy applications that got its start on the desktop/laptop. This is happening due to the software revolution Steve introduced with "desktop class" software on mobile. Take a look at the table below.

Agreed. Steve knew that customers did not know what they want. He got rid of all superflous products that Apple used to sell back in 1998/9. He kept one of everything. Tim wants to give everyone everything they ask. Bigger screen? Two iPhones, three iPads. To me, the success of the iPhone was in the fact that there was 1 model with 3 storage capacities. iPads? Get rid of anything bigger than the original one. Why carry around such device when you can carry an easy MacBook? Simplicity in product lines.

Since we don't have anyone or any way to sort out all the information on the Internet, content is getting replace by context, and that translates to our friends. Zuckerberg has been great directing his FaceBook application from a simple web app to the leading time consumer on the planet. I know everybody likes to throw spears at FB, but the concentration behind the product is clearer than the philosophy currently at Apple.

While Facebook has started something out of what Jobs started, I don't see it happening. Social networks come and go, and Facebook is no different. For now, FB is a force, but later? Not so much. Many of the people that started Facebook are quiting because it has become a sesspool of what it once was (or rather its initial promise).