So last night the PhoneBuff youtube channel released their iphone 8 plus vs note 8 speed test. I get it this isnt the most scientific test but last year the iphone 7 plus was the fastest all year until the oneplus 5 beat it. I was very much expecting the iphone 8 plus to do the same this year especially with the all the great stuff we have been hearing about the A11 (I know benchmarks arent everything but they are somewhat indicative of the performance you can expect) Many believe there needs to be further optimization to ios 11 to get there and granted that may be the case but last year with ios 10 it was optimized enough right out of the gate to become the "fastest" phone around. It seems this year everything from ios 11 to the iphone x have been rushed. Is Apple losing the qualities that have traditionally made it great? Are we finally seeing the negative effects of Steve Jobs' absence? I dont know what it is but would love to hear everyone else's thoughts.