PhoneBuff Samsung Note 8 vs iPhone 8 plus speed test [MERGED]

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  1. cakebytheocean macrumors regular

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    So last night the PhoneBuff youtube channel released their iphone 8 plus vs note 8 speed test.

    I get it this isnt the most scientific test but last year the iphone 7 plus was the fastest all year until the oneplus 5 beat it.

    I was very much expecting the iphone 8 plus to do the same this year especially with the all the great stuff we have been hearing about the A11 (I know benchmarks arent everything but they are somewhat indicative of the performance you can expect)

    Many believe there needs to be further optimization to ios 11 to get there and granted that may be the case but last year with ios 10 it was optimized enough right out of the gate to become the "fastest" phone around.

    It seems this year everything from ios 11 to the iphone x have been rushed. Is Apple losing the qualities that have traditionally made it great? Are we finally seeing the negative effects of Steve Jobs' absence? I dont know what it is but would love to hear everyone else's thoughts.
     
  2. willmtaylor, Sep 28, 2017
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    I was also surprised by this test. Now, I’m very curious about comparing the results of the iPhone 8 to the iPhone 7.

    Edit:
    I went back and found the results. The iPhone 7 Plus’ times were
    Lap 1 Times - 1:13.41, 1:26.74, 1:17.32
    Total Times - 1:46.41, 1:58.26, 1:50.61

    iPhone 8 Plus’ times
    Lap 1 - 1:27.79
    Total Time - 2:07.79

    In other words, the iPhone 8 Plus’ memory management (at least in iOS 11.0.0) is WORSE than in the iPhone 7 Plus’. And it wasn’t even close!

    Wow.
     
  3. The Game 161 macrumors P6

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    I think a lot of it is apps not being optimized
     
  4. Zaft macrumors 68040

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    That stupid home button delay is the main reason.
     
  5. Radon87000 macrumors 604

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    But then why didn't it happen with 6s or 7 when they launched?
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    Or maybe iOS 11 needs more than 3gb of ram. Remember 6 Plus had atrocious ram management when it launched on iOS 8.
     
  6. willmtaylor macrumors G3

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    Could be.
     
  7. Zaft macrumors 68040

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    6 Plus was a crippled phone the day it launched. It was probably the worst iPhone I had, especially since I had touch disease.

    The only thing I liked was the 5.5" screen.
     
  8. dulaney22 macrumors regular

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    There's no doubt the 8 plus is stuttering right now. Mine has frozen a couple times and lagged like most iPhones don't. Just updated this morning so hopefully that's fixed. I had an S* Plus and it felt quicker. Wasn't as smooth, but was quicker.
     
  9. kngqw macrumors newbie

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    Looks like Samsung has taken the crown on this particular unscientific test.

     
  10. sdwaltz macrumors 6502a

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    Figures don't lie and liars don't figure - but I'm struggling to see how this is possible since the 7 Plus smoked it and the 8 Plus is faster than the 7 Plus?

    I guess it's the 3gb of RAM vs 6gb of RAM that caused this since the iPhone was faster on lap 1 and only fell behind when re-opening apps, but the 7 Plus had the same 3gb of RAM and still beat the Note 8.

    Weird.

    I'll still take the iPhone all day though.
     
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  12. SmugMaverick macrumors member

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    That no matter how fast the chip is, iOS isn't build for that power.
     
  13. sdwaltz macrumors 6502a

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    I'm not entirely sure, but what I do know is that many many people who love and use iPhones/Apple products have used the results of these tests to shout from the mountaintops that they have the fastest phone on the planet, regardless of specs.

    Now that we get a result we don't like, we can't say "WTF, this proves nothing!"
     
  14. Oliveira46 macrumors member

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    Has to be iOS11 bug or lack of optimization. I've been following this channel speedtests, and iphone 7 never restarted apps, and that's where it blowed away the Androids...

    Even the 2gb iphone models didn't reload apps:
     
  15. ACST Suspended

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    No it's just that this isn't the chip that's causing these minor result differences (and I mean so minor that not a single person will notice in real-life even if they have and use the Note 8 and 8 plus) IOS is just not build for the power atm. Multitasking is buggy and the animations are too long.
     
  16. Nozuka macrumors 68020

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    Launching apps is mostly a test of storage and RAM speed. CPU was bored during most of these tasks.
     
  17. TL24 macrumors 6502a

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    It’s an iOS 11 issue with optimization. A11 and Apple’s own third-generation storage controller (SSD) should smoke the Note 8 and all other phones out there.
     
  18. pika2000 macrumors 601

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    I like these tests. It shows that:
    - 6GB RAM is the sweet spot for Android. Galaxy S8 with 4GB of RAM got smoked by OnePlus with 6GB of RAM. Of course, it shows how unoptimized the OS is if you need as much memory as most PCs out there on a phone.
    - Apple needs to work at those UI animations. They were nice when the hardware was having a hard time keeping up, to simulate smoothness. However, today it only "slows" down the usability when users have to "wait" for the animations. A few seconds here and there for years adds up!
    - iOS11 still needs some work to be optimized
     
  19. sdwaltz macrumors 6502a

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    Oh yeah, real-world performance differences will be negligible.
     
  20. alent1234 macrumors 603

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    it doesn't prove anything

    if you want a real test compare the video encoding times or the frame rate along with graphical quality of games

    opening and closing apps proves nothing
     
  21. kngqw macrumors newbie

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    On the contrary, real use means opening and closing apps, I do that everyday.

    iOS 11 it’s a mess on my iPhone 7, clean install and everything.

    Lag everywhere.
     
  22. roeiz macrumors 65816

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    hurrah!
    now you can go get the Note!
    isn't that wonderful?
     
  23. BugeyeSTI macrumors 68030

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    ^^^^
    This is absolutely what is going on. Give developers time to optimize everything for the new A11 chip so all cores are being utilized and you’ll see the S8/note 8 fall well behind. Considering an iPhone 7+ is more than a match for the S8/note 8, it’s only logical to infer the iPhone 8 is moving into a new frontier where it has too much processing power to deal with the apps that are out now.
     
  24. acorntoy macrumors 65816

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    I like this guys Speedtest, but unlike him I activate “reduce motion” in settings. Makes the phones much faster, it’s funny because a couple of times the iPhone loses simply because of the stupid animations Apples added to everything.


    I do remember the 7+ winning, so it’s only logical iOS 11 is the problem. It’s a freakin mess, on my 8+ it isn’t too bad, but even on my 12.9 2’nd gen every time I unlock the device it literally -freezes- for several seconds and I just have to sit and watch the home screen before it’ll let me select anything. Still no excuse.
     
  25. DNichter macrumors G3

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    I thought these tests didn't mean anything? Haha to be honest though, likely just a ram management issue on 11.0. I would be interested to see if 11.0.1 or 11.1 fixes this.
     

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