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Consider that if rumours of the next iPad being smaller and lighter are true, a retina iPad mini would blur the product line.


Releasing a new mini without retina makes zero sense. Especially since there is not a product in the line-up from the iPod Touch to the iPad that is not retina, except the iPad Mini. I'm not saying they will release it with retina but I can't understand the rationale if they don't

All I want for Christmas is a retina iPad Mini 32GB LTE space gray with Touch ID and A7/A7X chip
 
I'll pile on.

Pics: fake
Product: real

I think the "apple" on the back is like the current one, not like the new iPhones.

Every reason to have TouchID on the phone applies to the tablet (and don't forget, it is optional). Yes, it being on does complicate the auto-on when opening a Smart Cover, but it appeases the security concerns that brought it about.

As for retina on the mini. I'm sure Apple would rather wait at least one more generation to offer it (gotta think margins), but Google put the heat on with the latest Nexus, so their hand may have been forced. I don't see Apple offering both a retina and non-retina mini. It is not like having the iPad 2 stick around for the educational market.
 
No I'm not joking. Yes I don't doubt there are instances where Apple wants to upsell people to more expensive product but that's not the same as fearing cannibalization. The latter would be never producing an iPad because of worries that people would stop buying Macs.

I see. It's the classic micro/macro argument. There are definitely instances of micro cannibalization worries. But overall, they do try to balance things out with respect to new product lines, I agree with that.
 
Just curious why you think the mini won't be retina?

Because they wouldn't have to incur the extra cost of retina displays to sell millions of them.

Most of the complaints about Apples supposed lack of innovation comes from the fact that they leave off technology that is ready and available. I believe it's all about optimizing margins: what these people don't understand is that Apple values first and foremost their margins. Retina displays, I believe (although absolutely awesome and desirable) would yield more cost than would be reflected in sales, and thus wouldn't make it to the next iteration.

Apple already has the A7 figured out, and is producing them by the millions. That is also the case with TouchID, the new camera, the new flash, etc. All of these could make it into the new mini without any significant additional R&D effort, and they would generate a boatload of sales (although I doubt they will put the new camera in the iPads until they have something better for the iPhone). Now, that is not the case for a retina display: it does require R&D investments which at the moment would hurt their margins, and are unnecessary for selling the aforementioned boatload of units.
 
I'll pile on.

Pics: fake
Product: real

I think the "apple" on the back is like the current one, not like the new iPhones.

Every reason to have TouchID on the phone applies to the tablet (and don't forget, it is optional). Yes, it being on does complicate the auto-on when opening a Smart Cover, but it appeases the security concerns that brought it about.
Which is why many folks are put off by it - for the security concerns of handing over they fingerprints, and LACK of plausible deniability when it comes to where/when you are at every second - since IT knows you opened the phone/tablet with YOUR fingerprint.

So while I agree that the security issue is a parameter used to define the devices, it's not all good, as you seem to think.
 
I'd like to see a black bezel on it. Then it would be like the classic black & gold Lotus Formula 1 cars. Perhaps the best ever colour scheme on a racing car.
 
8 months from now on craigslist

Selling GOLD iPad Mini! $300

buyer: I'll give you $200
seller: But its GOLD
buyer: I don't care. The new iPad mini is coming out soon.
seller: BUT ITS GOLD!
buyer: not real gold. $210 final offer
seller: (shakes head) ok... I must have the newest thing. Its a deal
 
This might have been said, but...

I'd really love for the Touch ID to also allow multiple users on an iPad. My girlfriend and I share one, but I let her have all of her logins (Facebook, email, etc.) because it is too much of a pain to log in and log out all of the time and I have an iPhone (she's stuck on US Cellular and an old Galaxy).

Multiple users with simply a fingerprint would be AMAZING.
 
Sweet baby Jesus! If this ever comes out as real with a retina display the NSA would have to take me down with the quickness cause I would do anything to get that. OMFG!
 
But the mini and the nano didn't replace the classic iPod even though they both went on to sell way more than the classic ever did. And I guarantee you part of the decline in Apple's Mac sales is due to people buying iPads instead.

iPod touch is retina, all the iPhone models are retina. There is no legitimate argument for keeping the iPad mini non-retina. And if Apple does it just to protect full size iPad sales then Tim Cook really is an idiot. But I don't see them doing it.

They're not going to do it. Want retina, get an iPad. The next one will be thinner and probably lighter anyway.

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I wonder if the gold MBP will be next... :rolleyes:
 
Can you elaborate on R&D required for a retina display?
It's not some new technology. Plus, you'd think they know pretty much how to work with retina displays by now.

Apple already has the A7 figured out, and is producing them by the millions. That is also the case with TouchID, the new camera, the new flash, etc. All of these could make it into the new mini without any significant additional R&D effort, and they would generate a boatload of sales (although I doubt they will put the new camera in the iPads until they have something better for the iPhone). Now, that is not the case for a retina display: it does require R&D investments which at the moment would hurt their margins, and are unnecessary for selling the aforementioned boatload of units.
 
Because they wouldn't have to incur the extra cost of retina displays to sell millions of them.

Most of the complaints about Apples supposed lack of innovation comes from the fact that they leave off technology that is ready and available. I believe it's all about optimizing margins: what these people don't understand is that Apple values first and foremost their margins. Retina displays, I believe (although absolutely awesome and desirable) would yield more cost than would be reflected in sales, and thus wouldn't make it to the next iteration.

Apple already has the A7 figured out, and is producing them by the millions. That is also the case with TouchID, the new camera, the new flash, etc. All of these could make it into the new mini without any significant additional R&D effort, and they would generate a boatload of sales (although I doubt they will put the new camera in the iPads until they have something better for the iPhone). Now, that is not the case for a retina display: it does require R&D investments which at the moment would hurt their margins, and are unnecessary for selling the aforementioned boatload of units.
Sorry I don't agree. Mini was a brand new product last year. The primary concern was getting something thin and light with amazing battery life and great build quality. They got away with the higher price tag and crappier screen because of that. I'm not so sure they can do that two years in a row, especially with the Nexus 7 and Kindle devices with amazing displays at cheaper price points. The "premium" people paid for last year is not new this year and I think people will expect more than just a spec bump. Plus iOS 7 was really designed for retina displays. To keep one of their most popular devices completely non retina is pure madness.
 
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