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You could make an SD card fit in like a SIM card. I'm sure Apple just wants to make people pay more for the extra space. Would the performance be as good as built-in flash memory?

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Do you own 5000 shares or something?

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if i did i'd have nearly 3 million in gains
 
I really sincerely hope this isn't it. And I don't mean it in the same way that was said when the iPhone 4 design first leaked. That was beautiful.

This? Who the heck wants a taller phone? I want a bigger screen, but I don't want JUST a taller screen.

Such an odd design, why does it need the giant bezels still? Why even bother making glass sections on the back that small? Terrible.

16:9 is not that wide of an aspect ratio for the screen. And if you think about how you hold your phone, you'll see why it shouldn't be wider.
 
You could make an SD card fit in like a SIM card. I'm sure Apple just wants to make people pay more for the extra space. Would the performance be as good as built-in flash memory?

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Do you own 5000 shares or something?

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if i did i'd have nearly 3 million in gains


You have to have a lot of shares for people to sell because you sell unless you are some kind of market teacher.

EDIT: Oh man, what the heck happened to the quote system?

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Because no other smartphone has an external antenna frame.
Besides, the first iPhone had a two-toned back as did the first, second, and third iPad.

Yeah, I didn't think at all when I said "no other iPhone". Of course, the first one does, and I have the first iPhone. I think the original iPhone is ugly, but the iPad looks good.
 
I don't see what's wrong with the old dock connector. Who cares if it's 8 years old? The new one isn't really any better, just smaller. Who cares if it's smaller? I can't think of a single instance where that would be useful. All it means is that I would need an adapter if I were to buy the iPhone 5, which I don't plan to do.

Also, the engineering explanation for the two-toned back sounds like a bad excuse. How come no other iPhones or any other smartphones have a two-toned back? I don't think it looks bad.

It's smaller on the inside too. Apple uses every square millimeter of space to the max.

And guess what... if this new smaller dock connector last for another 8 years... that's 8 more years of whatever all that extra room can offer.
 
I'm not complaining about the bigger screen that much, but why do people suddenly want a bigger screen? People seemed to be fine with the iPhone's smaller screen size for 4 years. I'm fine with it, but the big screen wouldn't hurt other than the fact that it use a bit more power and break a bit more easily.
 
You have to have a lot of shares for people to sell because you sell unless you are some kind of market teacher.

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you misinterpreted my statement..

it was meant to mean that assuming everyone had the common sense that i have, then they would sell their shares (since i sold mine) knowing this design won't make nearly the profits of older better designs.
 
It looks great. The photo isn't exactly a display model.

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I don't see what's wrong with the old dock connector. Who cares if it's 8 years old? The new one isn't really any better, just smaller. Who cares if it's smaller? I can't think of a single instance where that would be useful. All it means is that I would need an adapter if I were to buy the iPhone 5, which I don't plan to do.

Also, the engineering explanation for the two-toned back sounds like a bad excuse. How come no other iPhones or any other smartphones have a two-toned back? I don't think it looks bad.

the large dock connector takes up valuable real estate, both inside and outside the phone. it's the equivalent of putting a parallel port on a macbook air.
 
It's smaller on the inside too. Apple uses every square millimeter of space to the max.

And guess what... if this new smaller dock connector last for another 8 years... that's 8 more years of whatever all that extra room can offer.

That's a valid reason for it to be smaller, and it might explain why the audio jack is on the bottom. But they should really upgrade the new dock connector while they're at it so it doesn't become outdated later on. Digital audio would be nice.

Has anyone here seen the adaptor from old to new connector? It has the old connector on one side and the new connector with a separate analog audio plug on the other side. Is analog audio getting dropped from the smaller connector?

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You have to have a lot of shares for people to sell because you sell unless you are some kind of market teacher.

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you misinterpreted my statement..

it was meant to mean that assuming everyone had the common sense that i have, then they would sell their shares (since i sold mine) knowing this design won't make nearly the profits of older better designs.

Oh.
 
I'm not complaining about the bigger screen that much, but why do people suddenly want a bigger screen? People seemed to be fine with the iPhone's smaller screen size for 4 years. I'm fine with it, but the big screen wouldn't hurt other than the fact that it use a bit more power and break a bit more easily.

people were OK with smaller screens when the phones were less powerful and the networks were slower, voice was the primary method of communication, not anymore. today, a lot of people use their phone as practically desktop computer replacements. the larger screens makes a huge difference there.

plus, in order to power all of this stuff, you need a bigger battery. which means a bigger case. people wont tolerate a thicker case so the phone has to expand in length/width to fit the larger batteries. then might as well increase the screen size or you'd have a huge bezel like a 1980s laptop.
 
all these leaks are simply the transformation from someone's subjective pipe dream to CAD. let's just wait till the fall when the actual realistic iphone comes out, and let's go to sleep already.
 
We've seen fakes before that were clearly fakes because the design was just not Apple. We've heard of design elements before and mock ups have suggested them to be a bad idea. In all cases Apple beat our expectations. This looks close enough to an Apple design to be real, but it must be a prototype of some kind. It simply doesn't have the classy feel of an Apple design and although SJ has gone, Jonny I've still runs the design team.
 
So we will see yet another iphone released before we see any imac update. Way to go apple! :rolleyes:
 
for the first time in my life, I am reading a bunch of HATERS like you find on Endgadget or Gizmodo hanging around here in MacRumors. Get The EFF OUTTA HERE !!!!! I hope this forum still clean and decent as always. let's ban this haters from our forum. TROLLS everywhere!
 
That's a valid reason for it to be smaller, and it might explain why the audio jack is on the bottom. But they should really upgrade the new dock connector while they're at it so it doesn't become outdated later on. Digital audio would be nice.

Has anyone here seen the adaptor from old to new connector? It has the old connector on one side and the new connector with a separate analog audio plug on the other side. Is analog audio getting dropped from the smaller connector?

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Alright.. So now we've seen a supposedly assembled iPhone 5 based on leaked parts.

I like the design, welcoming a 16:9 screen.

However, there are a few things I don't think is very Apple-like, and stuff that looks a little cheap etc.

A) Where is the ambient light sensor located on the front, now that the Facetime camera has taken its place?
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B) Why the back camera and flash isn't centered vertically in the black stripe. It looks a little odd when it's so close to the bottom of the stripe.
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C) Why not have a full metal back? I know that antennas can't go through aluminium so well, but since the antennas is AROUND the phone, it should be possible to have a full-metal back?

D) It looks a bit odd with the headphone jack on the bottom. It cuts off some of the left speaker making it asymmetric with the right speaker, also, it puts two ports on the bottom - and what should be on the top instead?
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What do you guys think?

Personally, I find it odd if Apple will be designing such stuff... They'll need to come up with something really new in order to compete with Samsung's sales.

I agree with the your views on the camera. Now you have pointed it out it really annoys me that it's not centred. If you look at the 4S the camera it is centred with the antenna separator, which is lovely, neat and tidy - very Apple. The camera position looks wrong on this new phone.

Also (this could be the angle of the photo) the camera seems smaller than the 4S with the flash being bigger.
 
I used to respect apple and have a loyalty for them. Last September was a complete disapointment, I really hope this not the phone. I see all these phones with unique designs and apple over here tweaking the designs over 3 generations. If this is the phone I guess I'm getting the Samsung GS3
 
If this is true, maybe there's too many lawsuits and too little design going on for the last few years.

And wrt the design patents, if Apple comes up with a brand new design, Samsung's is likely to say that it looks too much like their phones. Just a bit of theory but I hope all this suing won't backfire on Apple's design freedom.
 

Here:
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From here: http://www.cultofmac.com/178093/the-future-of-apples-dock-connector-feature/

This isn't confirmed, but it's based on information that is known about it already.

P.S. Hopefully the quotes won't be messed up anymore.
 
people were OK with smaller screens when the phones were less powerful and the networks were slower, voice was the primary method of communication, not anymore. today, a lot of people use their phone as practically desktop computer replacements. the larger screens makes a huge difference there.

plus, in order to power all of this stuff, you need a bigger battery. which means a bigger case. people wont tolerate a thicker case so the phone has to expand in length/width to fit the larger batteries. then might as well increase the screen size or you'd have a huge bezel like a 1980s laptop.

Yeah, but were people complaining about the small screen size on the 4S when it came out, were they? At least I've never seen any complaints until now. The battery thing makes sense, but I'm still fine with the small screen.
 
Still hedging 50/50

That the back panel has induction coil for charging...
The white stickers protecting the printed contact points..
Could he back panel be a CNC block of 'liquid metal'?
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well, i prefer the 4S glass back. looks sexier, and i dropped my 4S couple of times, the back glass still not broken yet, only small dent on the stainless steel band. let's say if u dropped the 4S and the back glass breaks, just change it with a new one for $20-$30.

when the new iPhone with aluminum back like the photo in this thread. when u dropped the phone, there must be a dent on the aluminum back, and u can't change it for the cheap. u have to live with it.

so to put the result is:

glass back dropped: worst case break which can be easily changed for cheap.

aluminum back dropped: it will not break and never break, but it will have dent as aluminum dented easily, and u can't change it easily for cheap.

i know i prefer the glass back.
 
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