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Yet, when you do the math on the Whr - we are talking about 2.8% increase. This is practically nothing, and a mere 0.1 Volt output increase? I expected better - especially with the 'substancial' increase in the height of the battery.

Agreed, however component efficiency has a direct effect on battery life. A6, new screen (albeit larger) and newer iOS could net a substantial (or at least measurable) increase to battery life. But of course it could be worse. Only time will tell. You'll sure as heck read about it on here in a month!
 
im really hoping this is the not the shape of iphone 5. because its just looking too long.

but this is mostly likely going to be it. i just hope it isn't awkward holding it in your hand.
 
Yet, when you do the math on the Whr - we are talking about 2.8% increase. This is practically nothing, and a mere 0.1 Volt output increase? I expected better - especially with the 'substancial' increase in the height of the battery.

The increase in the battery voltage is not just a pure numbers spec bump. It means they changed the chemistry used in the battery. Why? Well, LG is also using a new battery chemistry and they claim it's up to 60% more efficient (think 60% less lost power in delivering to components) and has more charge cycles. This would mean the battery not only lasts longer, but it lasts longer for a given unit mAh because it powers the components more efficiently.

I really don't understand all of the complaining about battery life. I use my iPhone 4 constantly throughout the day and it always makes it through until I go to bed. At which point, since I am going to be unconscious for 8 hours, I plug it in to charge overnight.

What is the issue? Why would anyone need a phone that lasts longer than a typical day?

iPhone 4 battery life is superior to the 4S. Many people think it doesn't last long enough compared to the 4, myself included.
 
Looks like to me they went back to the counter weight vibrate motor. The CDMA iPhone 4 and all 4S models used a linear oscillating vibrator. I've always thought the 4S vibrate motor was rather weak. The old one isn't worth writing home about either. Top left corner. At least it looks a vibrate motor.

That was confirmed about 2 weeks ago.
Well...... As confirmed as any of these leaked parts are "confirmed".
 
False. You'll benefit from extra space in landscape mode when viewing media such as widescreen movies and games and the change isn't insignificant. See https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1431952/
True, I don't think of movies since I watch them on an iPad or larger display.

What I was referring to is no increase in vertical space (using landscape mode) while viewing the web, composing emails & messages. This is where more space is desperately needed. The keyboard covers approx 60%, then when we add in the fixed toolbar across the top that displays signal strength time & battery indicator, the actual "window" available to work in is a measely 35%.

Cramped & slow, the same tasks can be performed with great speed & accuracy with a spacious display.
 
Probably going to be around 1500mAh. Still going to need an external battery pack for heavy users.

1.4324Ah. AmpHrs = wattHrs/volts.

Isn't this a recycled article? We already knew this a long time ago.
 
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Hope there is something special that apple will bring to the table, nothing apart from unibody in my opinion has been that special that has been leaked. The gt-i9305 is starting to look pretty tasty.
 
What is the issue? Why would anyone need a phone that lasts longer than a typical day?

You can't always charge it so frequently. Mine has come close to dying a few times.

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How can you not just calculate that?

5,45 Wh/3,8V = 1434,2 mAh

Granted, the units are pretty weird, but I thought Americans were used to it.

Americans also use those units, but we use periods for decimal points and not commas. Commas are for number sets of 3. For some reason, people here just don't want to calculate it.

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I don't understand how people can go to LTE without unlimited data. I feel that I would burn through my plan in a heart beat.

I guess people have big data plans or just want LTE so they can say "My iPhone has LTE." 4G HSPA+ is already better than I need or even want. I'd switch it to 2G mode, but the signals from that interfere with my speakers horribly when my phone is idle.
 
What if all these components are real, but they are of the next iPod and not the next iPhone..

Wishful thinking...:D
 
I could be wrong here, but isn't the unknown variable the power hungriness of 28nm LTE chips which should be in the new iPhone)? To my knowledge no devices are out yet with them, so couldn't they consume less power (like almost all new fab nodes do)?

This is true but the battery also needs to power a bigger screen and all these location services are also terrible drains that could be offset by a better battery
 
IT'S JUST AN ELABORATE HOAX </delusions>
If you think this isn't the new iPhone, you're mad.

Please stop, now. You havent ACTUALLY seen the phone yet have you? I didnt think so. So stop assuming things man. Geez:rolleyes:

such negativity on this thread.... as for me i'm really excited to upgrade from my iphone 4 to the 5! :D

honestly MacRumors I've really had enough of the side by side comparisons / speculations. I mean really how many times / ways are you gonna put the old battery / front cover / back cover / logic boards next the supposed new ones.:confused:

Maybe this is wishful thinking, but perhaps all these leaked components are part of a well-orchestrated misinformation campaign by APPLE. Indeed some of those leaked components might very well be for an updated iPod Touch, and APPLE will dazzle us yet with that very nice Teardrop-shaped design that surfaced last year. Now THAT would be amazing! :)
 
battery technology lagging...

Ok, maybe the title of this post is a little harsh, but I'm curious when batteries are finally going to catch up and surpass the technology in the phones. I would love it if we could get a battery in the iPhone that lasts 15-20 hours on voice or internet (FULL LTE)! It just seems like at the rate the technology in the phones are increasing, and the more power they demand i.e. LTE radio, that the batteries are just able to stay on par. I would not be surprise if they say that this new iPhone gets 8 hours of talk time and 6 hours of internet use on LTE, which would put the specs on par with the 4s, since they are beefing up the cellular radio....GURRRR:mad:
 
Wahhh...the screen isnt wider therfore its a marginal upgrade...News Flash...this new iPhone is about the furthest thing from an "incremental upgrade" as u can get. Stop with all the nonsense.

Read the post I was quoting and previous comments and then calm the hell down. I was defending the phone and the only reason I used the words incremental upgrade was because that was the terminology I was responding to.
 
I really don't understand all of the complaining about battery life. I use my iPhone 4 constantly throughout the day and it always makes it through until I go to bed. At which point, since I am going to be unconscious for 8 hours, I plug it in to charge overnight.

What is the issue? Why would anyone need a phone that lasts longer than a typical day?

And if, for some reason you forget to plug it in for one of the 365 days in the year, you have no phone for the following day.

I remember when phones lasted for a week EASY, and now people say 1 day is plenty.

Progress huh?
 
The same thickness?! Now that actually IS INTERESTING people. The ability to drop the phone from 9.3 mm to 7.6 mm thick, but still keep the same internal height is really insane.

This implies the faux-unibody design and the InCell technology greatly reduced the overall thickness. As opposed to the internals. Interesting.

Well done Apple. :apple:

It's actually quite simple. Look at the side profile of your 4S or 4. There's the metal band, and the two glass covers on both sides of the metal band. But the internals are only as thick as the metal band (actually they're a tad thinner). Apple didn't need to get the internals thinner, they just needed to figure out a way to design a shell that didn't require two glass covers sticking up from both sides of the frame.

So now the 5 will simply be as thick as the metal band, with no glass covers adding to the thickness.

If you take apart an iPhone 4, you'll kind of appreciate just how amazing it was engineered. But you also see how much thickness the glass covers added to the overall impression of the phone in your hands. They don't seem like much, but when you remove them it just feels unbelievably thin.
 
The one thing that's bugging me is the tooling marks. Iv not seen these inside any other apple product.

Something that in the normal operation of the phone you will NEVER see and that has no affect on usability is bugging you. Sometimes I'm sad to be a member of the human race.

Please stop, now. You havent ACTUALLY seen the phone yet have you? I didnt think so. So stop assuming things man. Geez:rolleyes:
I think he was being sarcastic.... At least I hope he was.
 
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And if, for some reason you forget to plug it in for one of the 365 days in the year, you have no phone for the following day.

I remember when phones lasted for a week EASY, and now people say 1 day is plenty.

Progress huh?

Yes, it's a shame Apple can't change the laws of physics. Battery technology is one those areas that's always been a problem. It's very challenging to store energy into little lithium cells.

So, as technology progresses and gets more powerful, energy is always a factor holding it back. This goes back for as long as I can remember. The Game Boy had a very good battery life on 4 AAs. The Game Gear, a more impressive piece of hardware, was lucky to get a few hours on SIX batteries. Laptops used to get much longer battery life, now it's much shorter. Apple has made significant advancements though in recent years with their laptop batteries.

There needs to be a significant breakthrough in battery technology before we get back to a time where our phones last for a week. Until then, it's just a matter of stuffing as many cells into the phone. But that leads to making the phone thicker. There's always going to be a tradeoff until some breakthrough.
 
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