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Is this new hole between the camera and flash the noise cancellation mic?
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Knowing Apple it will be the same as the 4S's 3G times. And then Cook will announce the battery life as "game changing" and "magical". Also will have "game changing" battery management in iOS that ends up never working in the real world.
 
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I just laugh at all the people automatically saying that battery life will be horrid. A picture of the battery automatically gives us every single detail of of the phone. I mean it is impossible that some of the other inner workings could have gotten more efficient. No that could never happen. :rolleyes:


But not a big enough increase or else we would of heard of it. So yes I think the battery will be the same or slightly worse! Even if it was slightly better thats unacepptable considering the battery life of other competing phones.

Im tired of Apple thinking "Oh we have such loyal customers, we can pump out outdated junk and they will buy it!"
 
I would gladly take a thicker phone if it had a battery that lasted for 24 hours with moderate use.
 
Anyone else tired of all the "Tim Cook and Security..." nonsense... The more people have access to technology, the harder it will be for anyone to keep something like this secret.

If you don't want to see it or know, don't hit Macrumors.

Go thru the threads, anything with an alleged picture of an iPhone 5 part has dozens of those stupid-a$$ comments.

We come to Macrumors "to be in the know". If you don't want to know, don't come. But don't bitch if you do come and see these "leaks".

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The initial speculation was NFC (there was even some patent drawings showing the same size/placement), but then a few source (including The Loop) said it's _not_ (some sources were basing this on the antennae requirements, Jim @ The Loop has probably been told through one of this channels).

Another member here found a patent on some kind of speakerphone design that is a small, square not unlike that area you pointed out.

Mysterious :) I guess we'll know more in about 7 days :D

Yeah, we'll see. I am referring to the machined cut out in the unibody frame. The rectangular hole in the upper left of the pic. You are referring to the square component seen in some earlier photos. It was, in fact, found to be a speaker. That case is closed. This hole, however, is driving me crazy. One member posted a pic of a new fingerprint sensor design by a company that apple owns. It fits almost perfectly. And as much as I know the new iPhone will not have NFC, let alone a FP sensor, it's the only explanation I've seen. And while it would be awesome to see apple take a tech leap like that, It's not happening. But that hole is for something. What the hell could it be?
 
I just hope the damn battery is as easily accessible as my iPhone 4 battery is. If Apple decide to 'glue' together the iPhone 5 then it's another fail IMO.

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Is this new hole between the camera and flash the noise cancellation mic?
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That would make sense, unless it's on the top? But I would imagine the same mic could be used for video recording?
 
So sad that you've resigned yourself to buying a phone that clearly doesn't really excite or interested you, just because it's made by Apple.

If you don't want it, don't buy it. Go and discover one of the many hundreds of other phones out there - you might be pleasantly surprised.

I have an android device as my backup that I'm using now as I just sold my 4S. I really, really dislike it. I am not excited about the incremental upgrade but I do want the bigger screen. That said, we still don't know all the "5" has to offer.
 
Thats why I'm calling Bullsh!it on the battery no way will they keep the battery in the 1400-1600-mAh range for an LTE device it just doesn't make sense

I could be wrong here, but isn't the unknown variable the power hungriness of 28nm LTE chips which should be in the new iPhone)? To my knowledge no devices are out yet with them, so couldn't they consume less power (like almost all new fab nodes do)?
 
One thing I miss about my old mobile phone: its battery lasted for 6-7 days. That's days. Not hours.*
Guess we're still a few years off until Apple/iPhone hits that kind of performance.

* Nope. It was not a smartphone. I'm fully aware of that.

Not only was it not a smartphone, but I'm sure you didn't use it NEARLY as much. I'm not claiming to know exactly your usage, but most people probably averaged at most 1 hour a day of talk time, nearly no text time, and zero internet time. If you disabled data, wifi, and bluetooth, and limited yourself to an hour a day of talk time with no other usage, I'm sure you would get far superior battery life on the iPhone than your old nokia.

It just doesn't make any sense to use "time to recharge" as a metric. It should be "time of actual use". An iPad will last for a month in sleep mode.
 
The logic board and battery are still on the same sides they've always been on.

The phone just opens from the oposite side now.
 
I could be wrong here, but isn't the unknown variable the power hungriness of 28nm LTE chips? To my knowledge no devices are out yet with them, so couldn't they consume less power (like almost all new fab nodes do)?

Phones with the S4 Qualcomm SoC feature this LTE radio, but since they are part of a Qualcomm chipset that is 28nm, it's difficult to tell how much power savings owe to the radio directly. The American HTC One X and American Samsung Galaxy SIII both feature this SoC.
 
There have been major advances in smartphone design by every company building one, but the funny thing is that the simplest idea ever improved my smartphone experience the most. The 3300 mAh battery in the RAZR MAXX was genius. I'd love to see more phones with battery capacity like the MAXX.
 
Looks like to me they went back to the counter weight vibrate motor. The CDMA iPhone 4 and all 4S models used a linear oscillating vibrator. I've always thought the 4S vibrate motor was rather weak. The old one isn't worth writing home about either. Top left corner. At least it looks a vibrate motor.
 
Alleged iPhone 5?

Gawd, they aren't even calling it an "alleged" part. Like everyone is so sure this is the next iphone, Macrumors has stopped speculating and is like "screw it, here's the next fkcing battery in the new fkcing iPhone 5"
 
NEWS FLASH:

iPhone 5 will not have LTE. Apple claims LTE technology is not "mature" enough therefore will use the best technology currently available that responds to the best pro-longed device user experience.

iPhone 5S will include LTE when the technology matures enough.

News Flash:

iPad already has LTE. You lost.
 
I really don't understand all of the complaining about battery life. I use my iPhone 4 constantly throughout the day and it always makes it through until I go to bed. At which point, since I am going to be unconscious for 8 hours, I plug it in to charge overnight.

What is the issue? Why would anyone need a phone that lasts longer than a typical day?
 
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