Photos of 'iPhone SE' Screen Display Confirm No 3D Touch

[Mac 128]

Might as well get a 5S then...

Because there's no value in Pay /s

No 3D touch on a "new" apple device which will probably have a "new apple device" premium price is just ridiculous.

It won't cost as much as a 6S, so why is this a problem for you? Everything it will have will be a premium.

Any sign of a USB 3.0 compatible Lightning port as seen in the 12.9" iPad Pro? Hopefully the iPhone SE and 9.7" iPad Pro quietly include it. I'm guessing the official announcement of USB 3.0-based Lightning ports and release of cables won't come until the iPhone 7 later in the year.

This is my one hesitation ... Syncing my phone is a really frustrating affair. And I back it up manually for the added speed boost over wireless. Lightning 2 port would be amazing. I hate the thought of getting a new phone without it, and the 7 getting it 6 months later. Then again, I can always upgrade in a year, likely next March, on the Apple installment plan, and only be 6 months behind.

 

[uid15]

Usual macrumors fail fest of a discussion.

 

[MrCrowbar]

Soo... why exactly would I upgrade from my 5S then? It runs more than fine, couldn't care less about the RAM. Seems to me 1 GB is just fine for the 4 inch display. Actually, RAM needs to be constantly refreshed so more RAM would hurt battery life.

Only gripes I have with the 5S is the the sleep button wiggles a bit (seems to be a problem only on the 5S) when it vibrates or I just shake the phone, battery life could be better (it was alright when it was new though), fingerprints could wore more reliably with sweaty hands. That's about it. It handles everything I throw at it just fine.

I need some incentives to upgrade. Better camera and some fancy new feature and 3D touch is the only one I can think about. Wouldn't mind having a 6S in a 4" format when the iPhone 7 comes out.

 

[firewood]

I disagree. Mere blown up photocopies of each is not the way to go. They should all have a purpose an a reason to exist on their own. The small should one should be as compact as humanly possible ala the the MacBook Air, the middle should be the all purpose one. The large should be the most capable ala the MacBook Pro

The only purpose or reason should be that a large number of customer who can afford them want to buy them, even if the product make-up makes no sense otherwise. Perhaps more people want a very capable and fairly small model, and none of your above ones.

 

[uid15]

Soo... why exactly would I upgrade from my 5S then? It runs more than fine, couldn't care less about the RAM. Seems to me 1 GB is just fine for the 4 inch display. Actually, RAM needs to be constantly refreshed so more RAM would hurt battery life.

Only gripes I have with the 5S is the the sleep button wiggles a bit (seems to be a problem only on the 5S) when it vibrates or I just shake the phone, battery life could be better (it was alright when it was new though), fingerprints could wore more reliably with sweaty hands. That's about it. It handles everything I throw at it just fine.

I need some incentives to upgrade. Better camera and some fancy new feature and 3D touch is the only one I can think about. Wouldn't mind having a 6S in a 4" format when the iPhone 7 comes out.

You're aware that you're not compelled to buy a new product, just because it exists, right?

 

[shiseiryu1]

I'm disappointed because it's basically an obsolete product from day one. What a shame. I'd like to see consistency across Apple's products. It's better for Devs and for consumers.

 

[eyeseeyou]

That's what they should do if they had their customers' interests at heart. Although to be fair, with 3D Touch they're not missing much.
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Maybe I'm using it wrong but I wouldn't say that 3D Touch is really a killer feature... It's kinda nice to have but it's not used that much.

It's more of a bang for your buck type of issue.

What makes it better than a 5S to charge THAT much more.

 

[jdillings]

No great loss. It's a gimmick that was DOA from the beginning and will be gone by iPhone 8.

 

[Mac 128]

Soo... why exactly would I upgrade from my 5S then? It runs more than fine, couldn't care less about the RAM. Seems to me 1 GB is just fine for the 4 inch display. Actually, RAM needs to be constantly refreshed so more RAM would hurt battery life.

Only gripes I have with the 5S is the the sleep button wiggles a bit (seems to be a problem only on the 5S) when it vibrates or I just shake the phone, battery life could be better (it was alright when it was new though), fingerprints could wore more reliably with sweaty hands. That's about it. It handles everything I throw at it just fine.

I need some incentives to upgrade. Better camera and some fancy new feature and 3D touch is the only one I can think about. Wouldn't mind having a 6S in a 4" format when the iPhone 7 comes out.

Well the current rumor is that it will have a 12mp camera. Plus it will have Pay, so looks like you'll be upgrading.

You also mention battery life as a consideration, which will also be improved by the A9 processor which will also improve overall performance. Add to that "Live Photos" as the "fancy new feature" your 5s doesn't curently have, and you should be a happy camper.

 

[Michael Scrip]

I'm disappointed because it's basically an obsolete product from day one. What a shame. I'd like to see consistency across Apple's products. It's better for Devs and for consumers.

What makes it obsolete?

Rumors say it's got the A9 processor inside. That's the CURRENT iPhone processor.

No 3D Touch? Big deal. It would be nice to have... but it's hardly a dealbreaker.

Do you know what else doesn't have 3D Touch? About 600 million iPhones out in the world today.

But developers have already added 3D Touch capabilities to their apps even though only a fraction of iPhones on Earth can use it. As long as future 4.7" and 5.5" iPhones have 3D Touch... devs will still include it.

Rumors also say this new 4" iPhone will only amount to 12 million sales this year.

For comparison... Apple sold 230 million total iPhones last year. So there will still be plenty of 3D Touch phones released in the future... adding to the total.

Besides... people were angry when Apple stopped making new 4" phones. Well Apple is correcting that. But now you're complaining about 3D Touch? Something that didn't even exist the last time Apple released a 4" phone?

 

[Roadstar]

Because there's no value in Pay /s

Well, in quite many places you can still omit the sarcasm tag as the hardware will be completely useless as Apple's taking its time with the rollout of Apple Pay. We're well into the second round of Apple Pay enabled hardware and the service is available only in a handful of countries even though many more countries would have e.g. payment terminals fully ready waiting for Apple to flip the switch and allow registration. As even Germany doesn't have it yet, I'm willing to bet my iPhone 6 Plus will be my first NFC-enabled device where I don't actually get to use the NFC part one single time. If Apple opened NFC access to 3rd party developers there could be a chance to do something useful with it, but giving that access is something I'm not exactly holding my breath for.

 

[skinned66]

I would be more surprised if it had 3D Touch rather than if it was omitted.

 

[pat500000]

"It's amazing how time goes by real quick. I understand how people feel about small size iphone. Me and my team decided that we should go retro and reuse the design of iphone 5s. It's going to be a major improvement with 12 MP...with 8gb storage. We're trying to slim the thickness of the phone by shaving half of the battery. We can expect the battery to last about 4 hrs at max. We thought about the price...and maybe we can give these people a petty discount...um...50-100 dollars off......instant rebate." -Jon Ivy, reuseable iphone designer.

 

[nando87]

 

[Mac 128]

But developers have already added 3D Touch capabilities to their apps even though ...
Rumors also say this new 4" iPhone will only amount to 12 million sales this year.

I read it differently. I read 12 million units at launch, 37 million units year over year.

Also, I didn't think that many developers had actually added 3D Touch, and those that have, haven't added anything compelling. Maybe 3D Touch will turn into something down the road, but right now, it's definitely not a must have features, especially for a phone that can be easily upgraded next year on Apple's upgrade payment plan.

 

[_mdavenport]

"Bigger battery, better camera, larger storage space" > "3D touch". Do you use 3D touch? No, I don't.

I use it every day and find it highly convenient. To each his own, I suppose.

 

[Mac 128]

I use it every day and find it highly convenient. To each his own, I suppose.

Yes but the question is whether it's more important than all of those other features if you had to chose.

 

[biracialfamily91]

Im so happy for my sister. She's finally getting the phone she's been waiting for since the iPhone 6. She hoping it comes in the Rose Gold color and has 128 GB. (i doubt it though) As for me I'm looking to upgrade my iPad 4 to a rose gold iPad air 3 and get the 2 new iPhone 7 Pluses in September for me and my hubby.Gold for my husband and Rose Gold for me. I like unity in my products. but I'm happy for you 4 inchers.

 

[LovingTeddy]

My wallet is ready for......




Nexus 5X... Buy it at iPhone SE launch day...

 

[Elijen]

3D Touch was overhyped. It was nice at first, but it's not available for many apps and sometimes, the shortcuts are off.

For me the best use of 3D touch is to move cursor anywhere by pressing on the keyboard. I would´t want to lose this. The rest is just a bonus.

 

[LovingTeddy]

We have always thought how to milking our customers. From day 1, we decided to push iPhone SE to later day, so people can buy iPhone 5S now then upgrade to more powerful iPhone SE. We have decided to use our classic iPhone 5S design in combination of iPhone 6S design, so we don't need spend any money to create such thing. iPhone SE is major upgrade from iPhone 5S, it features 12MP camera with 4K recording. We also include revolutionary 16GB storage, so you can fill your storage in minutes. Our most advanced cloud backup solution always back up your devices with 5GB of free storage. We have provide you option to pay for more storage.

iPhone SE is so thin, so we decided to shave few mAh of battery. Because our chip is so efficient, it still maintains iPhone's not so legendary battery life. If you decided that you need more battery, we designed the battery hump case, so you can get few more hours of battery usage.

iOS is the best mobile operating system. To make it even more secure, we decided to render your phone useless when you do repair by yourself. We are the first company to do so for protecting users. We also decided to limit what you can do with iOS, so you don't have to worry about phone slowing down (although we decided to make your phone slow as craw 2 years later, so you can upgrade to our latest outdated iPhone).

iPhone SE is our best product yet. It is everything Apple can offer. Starting now, you can preorder your iPhone SE for just 599! it is 50 dollar cheaper than our most advanced iPhone 6S.

 

[SeaFox]

Btw, there are OLED laptops announced this year, what's the chance we get an OLED MacBook Pro?

LOL. For that to happen, Apple would have to be some sort of leader in hardware. And despite what kool-aid drinkers like to say here, at least when it comes to computers, they aren't.

 

[Michael Scrip]

I read it differently. I read 12 million units at launch, 37 million units year over year.

Also, I didn't think that many developers had actually added 3D Touch, and those that have, haven't added anything compelling. Maybe 3D Touch will turn into something down the road, but right now, it's definitely not a must have features, especially for a phone that can be easily upgraded next year on Apple's upgrade payment plan.

I got the 12 million in 2016 from here:

http://appleinsider.com/articles/16...tion-soon-estimated-to-ship-12m-units-in-2016

It's our old friend Ming-Chi Kuo... so who knows.

And what exactly is "at launch" anyway?

We know the September flagship iPhones can sell 10 million in the first weekend.

Is that considered "at launch" ? Or is it the first few weeks or the first month?

As for 3D Touch... you're right... not every developer is using it. Not every developer needs to use it though.

I don't know what it is supposed to become. But it's out there. I've got quite a few apps that use 3D Touch on the icon. And it's not just Apple apps.

 

[Smigit]

Poor choise by Apple. Omitting the feature will keep devs from adding integral features using the tech.

Yeah I agree this is an issue. Until close to 100% of phones have 3D Touch support, developers are pretty limited in how they can use it as they need to supply alternative interfaces in their applications for devices without it. This in turn may prevent core functions using 3D Touch and gives us the current scenario where the feature gets implemented as an afterthought and not as a primary more intuitive way to do things. The technology has far more potential than just triggering shortcuts to functions that were less than a second away using traditional methods anyway.

Sure, many people don't use 3D Touch now but I'd argue there's very few apps that offer any benefit to using it. If 95% of the phones on the market had it then developers can make more useful use of it and customers will likely use it more often.

Unfortunately shipping devices without 3D Touch will probably slow down the adoption by developers.

That said, developers and Apple probably still need to overcome the visibility difficulties associated with users not knowing where it when they can use force touch.

 

[Michael Scrip]

Yeah I agree this is an issue. Until close to 100% of phones have 3D Touch support, developers are pretty limited in how they can use it as they need to supply alternative interfaces in their applications for devices without it. This in turn may prevent core functions using 3D Touch and gives us the current scenario where the feature gets implemented as an afterthought and not as a primary more intuitive way to do things. The technology has far more potential than just triggering shortcuts to functions that were less than a second away using traditional methods anyway.

Sure, many people don't use 3D Touch now but I'd argue there's very few apps that offer any benefit to using it. If 95% of the phones on the market had it then developers can make more useful use of it and customers will likely use it more often.

Unfortunately shipping devices without 3D Touch will probably slow down the adoption by developers.

That said, developers and Apple probably still need to overcome the visibility difficulties associated with users not knowing where it when they can use force touch.

3D Touch was introduced late last year... and only on the iPhone 6S models. Existing iPhone 6, 5S, 5C, 4S, etc didn't have it.

There are 700 million iPhones out in the world... but I'd say only 100 million can use 3D Touch.

Yet I've already got quite a few apps that use some function of 3D Touch. What made those developers explore it?

iPhone 6S will continue to sell this year... and I'm pretty sure iPhone 7 and beyond will have 3D Touch. There will eventually be enough phones that support it.

But there are still developers using it right now... even though only a fraction of iPhones can use it.